What a BITCH!!!

[SirFozzie]

DURANGO, Colo. -- Two teenage girls who surprised their neighbors with homemade cookies late one night were ordered to pay nearly $900 in medical bills for a woman who says she was so startled that she had to go to the hospital.

Judge Doug Walker declined Thursday to award punitive damages, saying he did not believe the girls acted maliciously.

Taylor Ostergaard, 17, and Lindsey Jo Zellitti, 18, baked the chocolate chip and sugar cookies one night last July. They made packages with a half-dozen cookies each and added large red or pink construction-paper hearts that carried the message, "Have a great night" and were signed with their first initials: "Love, The T and L Club." Then they set off to make their deliveries.

Wanita Renea Young, 49, said she was at her rural home south of Durango around 10:30 p.m. when she said saw "shadowy figures" outside the house banging repeatedly on her door. She yelled, "Who's there?" but no one answered, and the figures ran away.

Frightened, she spent the night at her sister's home, then went to the hospital the next morning because she was still shaking and had an upset stomach.

The teenagers' families offered to pay Young's medical bills, but she declined and sued, saying their apologies were not sincere and were not offered in person.

The girls declined comment after the ruling. Taylor's mother said the girl "cried and cried."

"She felt she was being punished for doing something nice," Jill Ostergaard said.

Young said the teenagers showed "very poor judgment"

"The victory wasn't sweet," Young said. "I'm not gloating about it. I just hope the girls learned a lesson."

The teens said they did not answer when the woman called out because they wanted the treats to be a surprise.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Dammit. Thought this thread was about me.

[QuikSand]

Yeah, I bet that's the whole story, told fairly from every perspective.

[SirFozzie]

The teenagers' families offered to pay Young's medical bills, but she declined and sued, saying their apologies were not sincere and were not offered in person.

I reiterate.. what a bitch..

[primelord]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Yeah, I bet that's the whole story, told fairly from every perspective.

Computers aren't supposed to be sarcastic.

[sportsfan13]

The next time those girls make cookies for that lady, I can guarentee they put laxatives in them...

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by primelord

Computers aren't supposed to be sarcastic.

Somebody check his power source - might be getting some bad juice today.

[maximus]

Bitch is an understatement. Unreal....

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

"The victory wasn't sweet," Young said. "I'm not gloating about it. I just hope the girls learned a lesson."

Yup, lessoned learned. Never do anything nice for anyone EVER!

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Dammit. Thought this thread was about me.

You're so vain.

[cody8200]

Fricking ridiculous.

[Raven Hawk]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[CraigSca]

I heard Daunte Culpepper showed up at her house and took back his "ice".

[ISiddiqui]

Wait.. why were the teens found guilty now? I hope there is an appeal coming.

[DaddyTorgo]

gotta love this goddamn country. unfrikkinbelieveable

[SirFozzie]

because their actions caused this bitch's tummy to ache and she was all afraid...

after all, god only knows that there are roving gang of teenaged girls banging on women's doors at all hours of the night and giving them cookies! Can't feel SAFE in her neighborhood any more.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Yeah, I bet that's the whole story, told fairly from every perspective.

Are you suggesting that the girls were actually intending to scare the daylights out of the woman?

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Yeah, I bet that's the whole story, told fairly from every perspective.

What other perspective is there? The trees outside the house where it happened?

[jeff061]

Hehe, read this earlier. Knew exactly what this was going to be about from the topic.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Apparently Ms. Ostergaard is also a pretty good basketball player.
http://durangoherald.com/sports/05/sports050112_1.htm

[Solecismic]

Going back to HA's thread, I don't think my wife would like it if I googled 17-year-old Colorado girls...

(insert stupid smiley face here, just in case JiMG thinks I'm serious - actually, I shouldn't use that acronym for him, I always double-take whenever I see someone else using it)

[BigJohn&TheLions]

I hope the med bills ran well over the $900. I also hope she chokes on the next oreo she stuffs in her fat, evil mouth. Cunt.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

Cunt.

Don't use my ex-wife's name in vain.

[Yellow5]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

around 10:30 p.m.

Not to justify the lady taking those girls to court but... A little late to be out delivering cookies don't ya think?

[Joe]

the cookies were obviously poisoned.

[cartman]

well, in the absense of Pumpy, I can't pass judgement until..

pics pls, thx...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sadly, I hadn't even considered the possiblity raised by "The other JimG"

FTR, I was Googling to see if there might be a local version of the story with more details, not to check the hottie factor of the two defendants.

[Klinglerware]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Wanita Renea Young, 49, said she was at her rural home south of Durango around 10:30 p.m. when she said saw "shadowy figures" outside the house banging repeatedly on her door. She yelled, "Who's there?" but no one answered, and the figures ran away.

Not to justify the lawsuit, but perhaps the sympathy for the defendants because they were teenage girls?

This scenario would have half of America on the porch with their rifles trained at those "shadowy figures".

[cartman]

Damn, how come I can't have 17 year old girls bringing me fresh baked cookies at 10:30 at night? Filing a lawsuit would we the LAST thing I'd think about doing...

[cartman]

dola...

"Dear Penthouse Forum,

I'm a 32 year old computer professional. I never thought something like this could happen to me. Here it was, a Friday night, and I had just settled in front of the TV to play the Xbox. Suddenly, there was a knock at my door. Two stunning high school girls were there, offering me fresh baked cookies. Well, who am I to refuse the cookies of 17 year olds."

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Going back to HA's thread, I don't think my wife would like it if I googled 17-year-old Colorado girls...

What about 24-year-old ex-Colorado placekickers?

[brimick79]

You know my first reaction reading this is to be sympathetic towards the girls.

But you know 10:30 is rather late. The girls exhibited bad judgement twice. Once delivering the cookies and then running away. I know alot of people who would be panicked by this. I mean who can really say they wouldn't be?

The girls were obviously wrong in the way they handled the situation.

And the whole thing about the woman not accepting the apology. Well you know the girls are responsible for what happened to her. And you know what maybe she can't afford $900? She should have said something "I accept the apology. However I have my rights and I'm going to exercise them. They excersized poor judgement and that cost me money. I don't have money." Her pride may have gotten in the way. Furthermore, she may have said that. The little qoutes you read in articles are like soundbites, 5 seconds of what may have been a 30 minute interview.

I don't think the girls are the scum of the earth or anything. But they were wrong. If everything in the article is to be taken at face value they get an A+ for effort, F- for execution.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Mmm, I dunno whether this is an automatic "panic" situation IMO. I almost definitely wouldn't have eaten the cookies until I knew where they came from, but I don't think should have been quite so traumatic for a 49 y/o woman with a teenager of her own either. (pending some history of the woman we don't know about)

[Suicane75]

I wanna move to that neighborhood.

[brimick79]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Mmm, I dunno whether this is an automatic "panic" situation IMO. I almost definitely wouldn't have eaten the cookies until I knew where they came from, but I don't think should have been quite so traumatic for a 49 y/o woman with a teenager of her own either. (pending some history of the woman we don't know about)

Did you read the article? The woman saw dark shawody figures late at night (10:30 is late for many people), than they ran away as she went to the door.
I dunno but if someone knocked on my door at 10:30pm then ran away I wouldn't think "Oh the nice driving age sweetie pie girls next door must have baked me some cookes, awwww oh sweet."

[brimick79]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Wanita Renea Young, 49, said she was at her rural home south of Durango around 10:30 p.m. when she said saw "shadowy figures" outside the house banging repeatedly on her door. She yelled, "Who's there?" but no one answered, and the figures ran away.

Frightened, she spent the night at her sister's home, then went to the hospital the next morning because she was still shaking and had an upset stomach.

This is all the woman knew at the time.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by brimick79

Did you read the article? The woman saw dark shawody figures late at night (10:30 is late for many people), than they ran away as she went to the door.
I dunno but if someone knocked on my door at 10:30pm then ran away I wouldn't think "Oh the nice driving age sweetie pie girls next door must have baked me some cookes, awwww oh sweet."

Naw brimick, I didn't read the article, I just make this shit up as I go along.

Yes, I read the article.

And unless she lives in a bad neighborhood, had some previous incident where she was victimized, there was some tension involving the neighbors, or it's just a really rough town (any of which I readily admit are possible), I find it a little strange that she was this seriously disturbed by something deputies checked out & found nothing amiss. I'm not saying it's inconceivable, just that it strikes me a bit odd. And that's coming from someone who is a lot closer to Stone Cold's philosophy (Don't Trust Anybody) than I'll ever be to Will Rogers.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And indeed it appears that might be at least one mitigating circumstance.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/nati...s/1229527.html

Court records contain half a dozen letters from neighbors who said they enjoyed the unexpected treats. But Young, at home with her 18-year-old daughter and elderly mother, said she saw shadowy figures who banged and banged at her door. She thought they were burglars or some neighbors she had tangled with in the past, she said.

The girls wrote letters of apology to Young, with Taylor saying in part, "I just wanted you to know that someone cared about you and your family."

The families had offered to pay Young's medical bills if she would agree to indemnify the families against future claims. Young wouldn't sign the agreement. She said the families' apologies rang false and weren't delivered in person, so she brought the matter to court.

Going by her reaction to the apology, I just bet she has had a few run-ins with neighbors in the past. She comes across to me as a real charmer.

[TargetPractice6]

Who the fuck yells "Who is it?" instead of peaking out the hole in the door or a window?

[brimick79]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Naw brimick, I didn't read the article, I just make this shit up as I go along.

Yes, I read the article.

And unless she lives in a bad neighborhood, had some previous incident where she was victimized, there was some tension involving the neighbors, or it's just a really rough town (any of which I readily admit are possible), I find it a little strange that she was this seriously disturbed by something deputies checked out & found nothing amiss. I'm not saying it's inconceivable, just that it strikes me a bit odd. And that's coming from someone who is a lot closer to Stone Cold's philosophy (Don't Trust Anybody) than I'll ever be to Will Rogers.

All I was tring to say really is if someone knocked on my door at 10:30 and proceeded to run away as I went to the door, I would think something was up.

I think the woman handled the situation all wrong. Since the family agreed to pay the medical bills, she should have shut up.

I'm just saying two things really:
1.It wasn't unreasonable for the woman to be frightened.

2.It's not cool to be knocking on people's doors 10:30 at night to handout cookies. You should only knock on someone's door after 9 if you're in need of immediate serious help, or if it's a prearranged invite.

Basically we shouldn't be sending a message that says "It's okay to knock on people's doors late at night, and than run away."

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by brimick79

2.It's not cool to be knocking on people's doors 10:30 at night to handout cookies. You should only knock on someone's door after 9 if you're in need of immediate serious help, or if it's a prearranged invite.

Maybe that's where some of our disagreement begins. I live in an awfully small town (pop about 3k) but I can think of at least a half dozen people who it wouldn't be at all strange to have knock on my door at 1030. Now, the running away thing would be a little strange, but even at that I'd be more of the mind that it was pranksters rather than serious criminals with bad intent.

[brimick79]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Maybe that's where some of our disagreement begins. I live in an awfully small town (pop about 3k) but I can think of at least a half dozen people who it wouldn't be at all strange to have knock on my door at 1030. Now, the running away thing would be a little strange, but even at that I'd be more of the mind that it was pranksters rather than serious criminals with bad intent.

But see you say half a dozen people. Let's assume for a second that we all have a half a dozen people who knock on our door at 10:30. I'm don't think these two girls were in this woman's half a dozen.

To me it sounds like these girls were knocking on the doors of aquantances at 10:30. Not really friends.

[brimick79]

Originally Posted by cartman

pics pls, thx...

hxxp://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2691638,00.html#

at your service

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by brimick79

hxxp://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2691638,00.html#

at your service

The one on the right looks like Porn Star Guage, i'd hit it.

The one on the left looks like a younger Brett Butler. I'd hit it drunk.

[JeeberD]

You and I have different tastes in women, my friend. Check the other thread for further insight...

[JeeberD]

Dola-


Wait a second...

[TLK]

After a crumby ending, donated dough rolls in for 2 cookie deliverers
By Electa Draper
Denver Post Staff Writer


Sunday, February 06, 2005 - Durango - The Cookie Defense Fund has swelled to thousands of dollars.

Hundreds of Denver Post readers e-mailed and called to express "shock" and "outrage" that two 18-year-old Durango girls were sued for something they did last summer: drop off a plate of cookies and a paper heart on a neighbor's porch.

Taylor Ostergaard and Lindsey Zellitti lost in Small Claims Court in La Plata County on Thursday. Their impulse to bake cookies and treat neighbors by knocking, dropping off and running away went awry. One of nine neighbors who received a plate of cookies said the pounding on her door about 10:30 p.m. July 31 frightened her into an anxiety attack. A Durango judge awarded about $900 to the 49-year-old woman to cover some medical bills incurred when she ended up at the emergency room the next day.

If the people who called and wrote make good on their pledges, that $900 will be recovered many times over. Several people offered to personally cover the whole amount themselves.

The attention has been overwhelming.

"We just put them on the plane. Lindsey, Taylor and Jill (Taylor's mother) are headed to New York to do 'Good Morning America,"' Martha Zellitti, Lindsey's mom, said Friday night.

"They just thought it might be their one shot to tell the country they're still not afraid to do good deeds," Martha Zellitti said. "They'll just try to be more considerate in the future about the time."


The families are also mulling over an offer from Jay Leno to do "The Tonight Show." It's not looking good for Leno, though, because Lindsey's mom wants her to get back to college in Kansas, where she is a freshman studying animal nutrition. Taylor is still in high school.

"We're just not the movie- star types," Martha Zellitti said.

But the story, which appeared Friday in The Denver Post, was linked to the Drudge Report and eBay. The tale was recounted on MSNBC ("Sugar and spice is not always nice," journalist Dan Abrams said) and other media.

The Otis Spunkmeyer cookie- making company is offering to hold an event in Durango to set things right.

"Cookies are the ultimate comfort food," Otis Spunkmeyer spokeswoman Liz Rayo said. "We don't want anyone sued over cookies. Cookies are good. This is an emotional issue for us."

They're not the only ones.

In e-mail after e-mail to The Post, from Hawaii to New York, and from Canada to Puerto Rico, people invoked with dismay the adage "No good deed goes unpunished."


Many observed that the unfortunate misunderstanding gave new meaning to the term "Cookie Monster."

One reader called the plaintiff in the case "a macaroon." Another called her a "cookie batterer."

The plaintiff could not be reached for comment Friday.

Martha Zellitti said the girls' families are not upset with the neighbor, or with the judge, who received many calls from people questioning his decision. Zellitti said the neighbor volunteers at the local food bank and does good deeds herself.

"And the judge made the best decision he could with the information he had," Zellitti said. "We just weren't prepared."

The judge awarded only $1 for damages, even though he could have given the plaintiff lost wages and the cost of new motion- sensor lights for her porch and more. She had itemized about $3,000 in all.

But political conservatives who read the story were convinced the judge must be a liberal activist intent on being politically correct. On the other hand, liberals said the judge and neighbor must be conservatives, who tend to see "terrorists behind every bush and on every porch," even in a quiet rural neighborhood just south of Durango.

The girls' defenders ran the gamut from executives and reverends to felons.

One e-mailer offered to set the girls up in their own cookie business.

There were other factions. A small but intense group were incensed that anyone would consider 10:30 p.m. "too late." It's really early, they said.

One church group wrote that members were very concerned because one of its favorite programs is for youths to ring doorbells, drop off treats and run. Another church group in South Carolina said it had young men in its congregation who would like to correspond with the Durango bakers.

"Lindsey's boyfriend wouldn't like that," Martha Zellitti said.

http://www.denverpost.com/cda/articl...693647,00.html

[kingnebwsu]

I've decided that everybody sucks.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

I think that we should take up a collection. If everyone out there buys a box of girl scout cookies we could all go to this house at 10:30 pm and bury the entire house under 5 feet of girl scout cookies! Wow... I could go for some of those tagalongs right now...

[Axxon]

Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

I think that we should take up a collection. If everyone out there buys a box of girl scout cookies we could all go to this house at 10:30 pm and bury the entire house under 5 feet of girl scout cookies! Wow... I could go for some of those tagalongs right now...

That would be the problem. We'd have to have the cookies delivered directly to the house or there's no way they'd get there before being eaten.