How often do you call your own plays in FOF?

Ben E Lou · 02-08-2005, 07:47 AM

The WR crazy stats thread led me to be curious about this. My impression is that most people who hang around here don't.

gi · 02-08-2005, 07:52 AM

I play two games. One I play call and one I do not. I enjoy calling my own plays and sometimes want the GM only option.

KWhit · 02-08-2005, 08:00 AM

I voted for "Never or virtually never. Jim could drop play-calling altogether from his next game and I wouldn't really care."

But I wouldn't want it dropped from the game, because I use the playcalling interface to "watch" the games in the postseason. I just always click on the Have Coach Call Play button.

Darkiller · 02-08-2005, 08:07 AM

I usually don't call my own plays but I like the fact that I have this as an option.
I'd rather have this option than not.
Also, when the game is on the line (usually within the last two minutes of a close game) I take control of the play calling because I really want to avoid a bad AI decision.

Last time it happened (about a week ago), I was playing with San Francisco in the SuperBowl against Buffalo.
we were an 8-pt favourite against the Bills so I felt confident. However, our offense stalled quite a bit in this game while we really had been a true power all season long and then there we are in the final two minutes up by a score of 12-10.
We have the ball, run a few plays and ultimately find ourselves with a 4th down on the Bills' 43-yard line with only 47 seconds left to play.
Guess what, the AI goes for the 56-yard FG attempt. Misses (duh!)
and so the Bills get the ball back with 43 seconds left, almost at mid-field. A couple of passes later, they attempt a 45 yarder and win the SuperBowl 13-12.

This time around, I didn't take "control" of the play calling in the final two minutes, and look what happened (in the BIG GAME damn it !) so I was really mad and decided to re-run the game this time calling the plays myself in the final minutes. The AI had really screwed the SuperBowl and the though of it ruining everything I did for the whole season was unbearable. Especially knowing that NEVER would this call have occured in real life.
So I re-simmed the game and this time we won with correct calls made.
Not something I usually do or want to do but that time I was really mad at what happened.

cuervo72 · 02-08-2005, 08:11 AM

Hmm....been quite a while since I've seriously played single player, to be honest.

gstelmack · 02-08-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Hmm....been quite a while since I've seriously played single player, to be honest.

Me, too. Where's the "might sometimes call plays if I played single player, but since I play multiplayer I don't have the option" option?

bryce · 02-08-2005, 08:16 AM

i'm a freak - i call every play of every game and wouldn't buy the game without this option...

mhass · 02-08-2005, 08:17 AM

I too voted for Never, but that's not entirely true. I take over play-calling in big games if it's close and I have a poor play-calling coach. Usually not until the second half and, like I said, if it's close.

flere-imsaho · 02-08-2005, 08:32 AM

I voted "virtually never" but wouldn't want it removed as functionality. That's because every once in a while it's fun to call my own plays.

gottimd · 02-08-2005, 08:37 AM

No here because I pretty much only play in an MP league, and don't get the chance to make my own calls during a sim because they aren't done. I wouldn't say get rid of it completely though. Also, it could be useful if a new patch or version comes out where you can do live sims in a MP league, if at all possible.

Axxon · 02-08-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

I voted "virtually never" but wouldn't want it removed as functionality. That's because every once in a while it's fun to call my own plays.

That's me but thinking about it, it's been a long time since I've done so and I'd never do it in a franchise I care about. I don't like the fact that it skews the results.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-08-2005, 08:46 AM

I've probably called the plays in 95% or more of the FOF games I've played. Not neccessarily all the plays, and any number of times primarily in order to get carries/touches for various backups or to make sure a starter reaches a particular milestone in the season/career (usually not outrageous milestones, just 1,000 yd rushing sort of stuff).

And minus the playcalling aspect, whatever interest I have in FOF would diminish considerably.

fantastic flying froggies · 02-08-2005, 09:08 AM

I play mostly MP now, so obviously no play calling. And what a shame that is, playing head 2 head MP would simply be brilliant...

Whenever I do play SP, I usually call about half my games...

albionmoonlight · 02-08-2005, 09:33 AM

Sometimes I fast sim. But about half the time, I watch the games on fast speed up until the last five minutes or so. Then, if the game is close, I will take over play calling--mainly because I like control of time outs, but also because I like the immersion of it.

albionmoonlight · 02-08-2005, 09:34 AM

dola--so I voted for most games, but it is with the above caveat.

Anthony · 02-08-2005, 09:43 AM

i don't ever call my own plays. season takes too long. if i wanted to call my own plays i'd play madden and actually get to control my players. i'm not interested in being a coach, though, i just want to be a GM.

BigJohn&TheLions · 02-08-2005, 10:46 AM

I couldn't vote because the proper option for me is not there.

I call my own plays in certain situations. Like avoiding the computer from calling a 59-yard FG attempt on the first drive of the game. Or trying to get the ball down the field at the end of a half instead of running the clock out.

condors · 02-08-2005, 11:08 AM

i voted always but i click the button to have the coach call the play alot

tanglewood · 02-08-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gi

I play two games. One I play call and one I do not. I enjoy calling my own plays and sometimes want the GM only option.

This is me. I have some 'GM' save games and some 'Coach' save games.

Leonidas · 02-08-2005, 11:58 AM

To me it's situational. There are times when the game logic is just not good and I try to override it. One of my big pet peeves is when the game decides to go for 2 vs 1. The game also has this tendency to not do the onside kicks the way I want and it also calls timeouts when I don't want them called. Also, sometimes on crucial 3rd downs I make the call to throw to my best 3rd down receiver and I also call a lot of QB sneaks on 3rd or 4th and short behind my best guards.

Honolulu Blue · 02-08-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i don't ever call my own plays. season takes too long. if i wanted to call my own plays i'd play madden and actually get to control my players. i'm not interested in being a coach, though, i just want to be a GM.

My sentiments exactly, except for my lack of interest in Madden. If I really wanted to call plays, I'd find a text sim to do so.

miami_fan · 02-08-2005, 02:06 PM

I just started my first game in which I plan on calling all the plays. Before I just called plays when in speciall situations to overide my coach.

MizzouRah · 02-08-2005, 03:15 PM

If I want to call plays, I'll pop Madden into my Xbox.

Todd

maximus · 02-09-2005, 01:16 AM

I calll my own plays all of the time.

View Poll Results: How often do you want to call your own plays?
Never or virtually never. Jim could drop play-calling altogether from his next game and I wouldn't really care.	62	71.26%
Only in the postseason and/or in big regular-season games.	9	10.34%
Most games.	7	8.05%
Every game.	9	10.34%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2005, 08:07 AM	#4
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	I usually don't call my own plays but I like the fact that I have this as an option. I'd rather have this option than not. Also, when the game is on the line (usually within the last two minutes of a close game) I take control of the play calling because I really want to avoid a bad AI decision. Last time it happened (about a week ago), I was playing with San Francisco in the SuperBowl against Buffalo. we were an 8-pt favourite against the Bills so I felt confident. However, our offense stalled quite a bit in this game while we really had been a true power all season long and then there we are in the final two minutes up by a score of 12-10. We have the ball, run a few plays and ultimately find ourselves with a 4th down on the Bills' 43-yard line with only 47 seconds left to play. Guess what, the AI goes for the 56-yard FG attempt. Misses (duh!) and so the Bills get the ball back with 43 seconds left, almost at mid-field. A couple of passes later, they attempt a 45 yarder and win the SuperBowl 13-12. This time around, I didn't take "control" of the play calling in the final two minutes, and look what happened (in the BIG GAME damn it !) so I was really mad and decided to re-run the game this time calling the plays myself in the final minutes. The AI had really screwed the SuperBowl and the though of it ruining everything I did for the whole season was unbearable. Especially knowing that NEVER would this call have occured in real life. So I re-simmed the game and this time we won with correct calls made. Not something I usually do or want to do but that time I was really mad at what happened. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history. Last edited by Darkiller : 02-08-2005 at 08:09 AM.

02-08-2005, 08:11 AM	#5
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Hmm....been quite a while since I've seriously played single player, to be honest. __________________ null

02-08-2005, 08:17 AM	#8
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	I too voted for Never, but that's not entirely true. I take over play-calling in big games if it's close and I have a poor play-calling coach. Usually not until the second half and, like I said, if it's close. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

02-08-2005, 08:37 AM	#10
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	No here because I pretty much only play in an MP league, and don't get the chance to make my own calls during a sim because they aren't done. I wouldn't say get rid of it completely though. Also, it could be useful if a new patch or version comes out where you can do live sims in a MP league, if at all possible. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-08-2005, 07:52 AM	#2
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	I play two games. One I play call and one I do not. I enjoy calling my own plays and sometimes want the GM only option.

02-08-2005, 08:00 AM	#3
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I voted for "Never or virtually never. Jim could drop play-calling altogether from his next game and I wouldn't really care." But I wouldn't want it dropped from the game, because I use the playcalling interface to "watch" the games in the postseason. I just always click on the Have Coach Call Play button.

02-08-2005, 08:16 AM	#7
bryce High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas, TX	i'm a freak - i call every play of every game and wouldn't buy the game without this option...

02-08-2005, 08:32 AM	#9
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I voted "virtually never" but wouldn't want it removed as functionality. That's because every once in a while it's fun to call my own plays.

02-08-2005, 08:46 AM	#12
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I've probably called the plays in 95% or more of the FOF games I've played. Not neccessarily all the plays, and any number of times primarily in order to get carries/touches for various backups or to make sure a starter reaches a particular milestone in the season/career (usually not outrageous milestones, just 1,000 yd rushing sort of stuff). And minus the playcalling aspect, whatever interest I have in FOF would diminish considerably. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-08-2005, 09:08 AM	#13
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	I play mostly MP now, so obviously no play calling. And what a shame that is, playing head 2 head MP would simply be brilliant... Whenever I do play SP, I usually call about half my games... __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

02-08-2005, 09:33 AM	#14
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Sometimes I fast sim. But about half the time, I watch the games on fast speed up until the last five minutes or so. Then, if the game is close, I will take over play calling--mainly because I like control of time outs, but also because I like the immersion of it.

02-08-2005, 09:34 AM	#15
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	dola--so I voted for most games, but it is with the above caveat.

02-08-2005, 09:43 AM	#16
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i don't ever call my own plays. season takes too long. if i wanted to call my own plays i'd play madden and actually get to control my players. i'm not interested in being a coach, though, i just want to be a GM.

02-08-2005, 10:46 AM	#17
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	I couldn't vote because the proper option for me is not there. I call my own plays in certain situations. Like avoiding the computer from calling a 59-yard FG attempt on the first drive of the game. Or trying to get the ball down the field at the end of a half instead of running the clock out. __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

02-08-2005, 11:08 AM	#18
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	i voted always but i click the button to have the coach call the play alot

02-08-2005, 11:58 AM	#20
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	To me it's situational. There are times when the game logic is just not good and I try to override it. One of my big pet peeves is when the game decides to go for 2 vs 1. The game also has this tendency to not do the onside kicks the way I want and it also calls timeouts when I don't want them called. Also, sometimes on crucial 3rd downs I make the call to throw to my best 3rd down receiver and I also call a lot of QB sneaks on 3rd or 4th and short behind my best guards. __________________ Molon labe

02-08-2005, 02:06 PM	#22
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I just started my first game in which I plan on calling all the plays. Before I just called plays when in speciall situations to overide my coach.

02-08-2005, 03:15 PM	#23
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	If I want to call plays, I'll pop Madden into my Xbox. Todd

02-09-2005, 01:16 AM	#24
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	I calll my own plays all of the time.

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