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Enigma2 #1
Ah, the ‘80s.
_______________________________________________ Freshwater Trees A type of ink Almost half of Alaska Sausage Birthplace of Boston’s daddies (not baseball, though) December 2004 United (a first of sorts) Typical wedding registry item All over the place, but Judge Wapner had his meltdown sooner than we expected Terminus ______________________________________________________ Find where the missing one is, and that is your answer.
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02-09-2005, 11:51 AM
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Seems like there's no love for the enigma2. Well, here goes. Maybe this'll kickstart things. Although it'll most likely sidetrack everyone. Freshwater Trees - Possibly mangroves? A type of ink - The only type of ink that comes to mind would be India ink. Maybe colossal squid ink? Almost half of Alaska - Aleutians? Tundra? Devoid of people? Sausage - Mmmmm...sausage. Typical wedding registry item - Plate, spoon, butter dish, silverware, glasses? Terminus - end, ending, ending point. Also I think it was an early name for Atlanta. As for how any of this relates to the 80's, I'm clueless. Perhaps band names or names of songs? TV shows? Well, I've probably ended up throwing people off track, so I'll stop now.
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02-09-2005, 11:55 AM
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The answer is Flock of Seagulls
Next.
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02-09-2005, 11:59 AM
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Wedding item = China Ink = India Sausage = Italian Countries theme?
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02-09-2005, 12:10 PM
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Sausage could also be Polish
Birthplace of Boston's daddies: New York? (courtesy of Pedro) Terminus: Atlanta (good call buzzbee) United: My guess is that its someplace United Airlines started service to, but no idea where. |
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02-09-2005, 12:14 PM
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Iceland?
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02-09-2005, 12:18 PM
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High School Varsity
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Cypress?
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02-09-2005, 12:33 PM
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EDIT: Ack! Changed from italics to bold since the quote is in italics.
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02-09-2005, 12:36 PM
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High School JV
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To try another approach, there are 9 clues. Since the hint was about the 80s, I suspect each clue corresponds to a year, and the remaining year is the answer. Since we've got the location thing going, I think it might be some sort of champions, but I can't figure out what sport would fit.
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02-09-2005, 12:39 PM
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December 2004 United (a 1st of sorts)- United Airlines resumed non-stop service to Ho Chi Minh City
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02-09-2005, 12:40 PM
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also, Texas is almost half the size of Alaska
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02-09-2005, 12:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Making no representations about whether you are on the right track or not, I just discovered that I left something off one of the clues above. I will make the proper edits.
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02-09-2005, 12:47 PM
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I was thinking it might be longitude since several of the locations are in the 80's, but I don't think that is it since all the clues don't fit
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02-09-2005, 12:48 PM
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Based on the edit, I'm thinking New York is incorrect, and that it might be England (founding fathers).
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02-09-2005, 12:50 PM
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Yup, that would be my vote as well. I sure got smacked down on that one
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02-09-2005, 12:56 PM
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To conform to the country idea, Terminus might be Georgia and Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam.
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02-09-2005, 01:04 PM
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And Cypress = Greece?
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02-09-2005, 01:15 PM
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You don't want to go down that road. |
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02-09-2005, 01:20 PM
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I think for purposes of solutions (assuming we're on to something with the country references) Cyprus is itself a nation.
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02-09-2005, 01:21 PM
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Haha, very true. It could be Cyprus, however. Ach, beat me to it QS. Of course, this still leaves the Wapner clue. I got nothing there. Last edited by weinstein7 : 02-09-2005 at 01:22 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 01:23 PM
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Ah, yes. After a quick bit of internet research, I have brushed up on my Greek history/Cyprus history.
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02-09-2005, 01:24 PM
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Okay, possible links to this: The People's Court Rainman ...? It made me think of the world court, in (I think) The Hague, Netherlands -- I suppose that's a possible. Doesn't ring true to me, like most of the rest do, though. |
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02-09-2005, 01:25 PM
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It is not pretty. |
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02-09-2005, 01:29 PM
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something we might be overlooking for sausage might be frankfurter, so maybe it's Frankfurt, Germany?
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02-09-2005, 01:29 PM
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Ok, this may be a bit of a stretch, but haven't all of these places had territorial disputes or social uprisings?
Cypress vs. Greece England vs. India China and Tienneman (sp?) square Georgia splitting from Soviet Union/Russia Iceland, well...uh nevermind.
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02-09-2005, 01:31 PM
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I don't know if there's anything to this, but so far many of the countries that we've come up with have had some sort of civil war/independence struggle/seperatism issue etc. in recent decades.
Vietnam (Vietnam War) Poland (end of Communism) Georgia (independence/rose revolution last year) China (Tianenman Square) Cyprus (civil war) England (a bit of a stretch...Falkland Islands?) India (Kashmir) Of course, this could be more of a commentary on the state of the world today than an intended pattern in the puzzle. edit: damnit, i was beaten again! Last edited by weinstein7 : 02-09-2005 at 01:31 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 01:32 PM
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Same idea, but wienstein presented it a little more clearly.
Of course these all didn't happen in the 80's, I don't think. Vietnam was earlier.
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02-09-2005, 01:36 PM
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The only thing I remember about Iceland in the 80's was the summit with Gorbachev. Ring any bells for the rest of them?
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02-09-2005, 01:39 PM
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Perhaps these are locations of summits/accords/signing of peace treaties?
EDIT: Obiviously world history isn't my strong suit.
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02-09-2005, 01:45 PM
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Honestly I think the conflict angle might just be a coincidence. I mean, how many countries can you think of that DIDN'T have some sort of violent conflict in the last 25 years? Also, there are a lot of stretches there, especially with Cypress/Cyprus/Georgia.
I still think it's something happened in each city/country in one specific year in the 80s, but I don't know what. |
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02-09-2005, 01:51 PM
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Are we sure this is in reference to the 1980s?
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02-09-2005, 01:57 PM
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I did more than my usual contribution to bona fide research, and have now ruled out "sites of world chess championships" from consideration. Carry on.
It's Iceland, the Philippines, or...or..this place!" Last edited by QuikSand : 02-09-2005 at 01:57 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 02:00 PM
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What?!?!? You mean you didn't also research the locations of the World Cup of Curling qualifiers? Shame on you!
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02-09-2005, 02:02 PM
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Ahh, Wapner didn't spend "one night in Bangkok" did he?
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02-09-2005, 02:03 PM
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It might be a stretch, but I'm looking at Oscar nominated movies for Best Picture in the 1980s, and where they were based:
Vietnam - Platoon, Born on 4th of July Sausage (Vienna) - Mozart Georgia - Driving Miss Daisy China - The Last Emporer Cyprus (civil war)-??? England (a bit of a stretch...Falkland Islands?) - The Elephant Man India - Ghandi, A Passage to India Wapner - Rainman
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02-09-2005, 02:06 PM
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Cyprus - Chariots of Fire? (or Chariots of Fire could be for England) |
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02-09-2005, 02:06 PM
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Were they each nominated in different years?
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02-09-2005, 02:07 PM
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Platoon, Amadeus, Driving Miss Daisy, The Last Emperor, Chariots of Fire, Rain Man, Ghandi
All won Best Picture in the 80s. Last edited by TazFTW : 02-09-2005 at 02:08 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Wow, good call. I think we're on to it now.
1980 - Ordinary People 1981 - Chariots of Fire (England) 1982 - Gandhi (India) 1983 - Terms of Endearment 1984 - Amadeus (Austria) 1985 - Out of Africa 1986 - Platoon (Vietnam) 1987 - The Last Emperor (China) 1988 - Rain Man (Wopner) 1989 - Driving Miss Daisy (Georgia?) Just leaves the Alaska clue. Last edited by weinstein7 : 02-09-2005 at 02:25 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 02:16 PM
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It's not Africa (Out of Africa) or Kenya
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02-09-2005, 02:19 PM
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Here are the winners from 1980-1990
1990 Driving Miss Daisy (1989) 1989 Rain Man (1988) 1988 Last Emperor, The (1987) 1987 Platoon (1986) 1986 Out of Africa (1985) 1985 Amadeus (1984) 1984 Terms of Endearment (1983) 1983 Gandhi (1982) 1982 Chariots of Fire (1981) 1981 Ordinary People (1980) 1980 Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)
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02-09-2005, 02:20 PM
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Terms of Endearment had Jack Nicholson playing a retired astronaut (Houston, we have a problem). |
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02-09-2005, 02:26 PM
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And most of the film was supposed to be based in Texas, as it was a Larry McMurtry story.
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02-09-2005, 02:26 PM
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Alaska is a little more than twice the size of Kenya, so that might be the Out of Africa clue (it's a bit of a stretch, it's like 1.4:.6, but could be close enough.)
Still need the freshwater trees. And was Driving Miss Daisy actually in Georgia? I was just guessing, I haven't seen the movie in years. edited to add: Even better, it was actually set in Atlanta (aka Terminus). edited again: FWIW, Ordinary People is set in a suburb of Chicago. Last edited by weinstein7 : 02-09-2005 at 02:37 PM. |
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02-09-2005, 02:41 PM
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Musta missed it. What happened to Enig1?
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02-09-2005, 02:44 PM
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We've had some AWOL issues of late. I guess someone just got frustrated, and dediced to launch #2. |
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02-10-2005, 06:47 AM
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It's pretty much all over but the shouting, so here are a couple of more clues to keep it from dying on the vine:
__________________________________________________________ Birthplace of Boston’s daddies (not baseball, though)--It still refers to a sport--just not baseball Quote:
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02-10-2005, 06:57 AM
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Only reference I could find to a suburb was evanston sp?
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02-10-2005, 07:39 AM
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Boston's Daddies. Boston Celtics. Ireland.
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I feel like I have the anwser in front of me I just cannot put it together.
Lake Forest is where Ordinary People was based. In the movie rainman Judge Wapner had his meltdown just after they talked about Cincinnati. The theme seems to be where the setting of the movie was at, but I cannot correlate that to the movie not included on the list.
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