FOF: Where does this game fit in the "13 levels of losing?"

SackAttack · 02-19-2005, 05:41 AM

I'm, frankly, too lazy to bother with swapping game files to use the 'real' teams when I'm playing my single player career in FOF. As a result, the cities and nicknames are identical with IHOF.

So, playing a new single player career, my Brooklyn Fightin' Bums matched up with the Chesapeake Chitterlings in week 1 of the 2005 season, with the following result:

Front Office Football 2004



Box Score: Chesapeake at Brooklyn  

Brooklyn, WI.  

  

Week 1, 2005  

  

Attendance: 77,000 (79,700).  

  

  

Weather: 46 degrees, fair.  

  

2Q: 11:47 CHE - Tony Isaia 5 pass from Moe Woodyard.  

2Q: 11:47 CHE - Kenny Dircks extra point.  

2Q: 08:45 BKN - Tracy Derosa 1 pass from Percy Tatum.  

2Q: 08:45 BKN - Roman Swope extra point.  

2Q: 00:37 BKN - Kevin Ioja 17 blocked punt return.  

2Q: 00:37 BKN - Roman Swope extra point.  

2Q: 00:04 CHE - Kenny Dircks 27 field goal.  

3Q: 03:25 BKN - Tracy Derosa 33 pass from Percy Tatum.  

3Q: 03:25 BKN - Roman Swope extra point.  

3Q: 01:29 CHE - Rusty Fields 1 pass from Moe Woodyard.  

3Q: 01:29 CHE - Kenny Dircks extra point.  

4Q: 10:00 CHE - Dwight Griffith 19 run.  

4Q: 10:00 CHE - Kenny Dircks extra point.  

4Q: 00:15 BKN - Roman Swope 37 field goal.  

OT: 03:35 BKN - Roman Swope 28 field goal.  

  

Game MVP: CHE 7 Moe Woodyard  

  

Chesapeake        0      10     7      7      0      -      24  

Brooklyn          0      14     7      3      3      -      27  

  

Team Statistics          CHE           BKN  

  

First Downs              20            23  

  

Total Rushes             37            32  

Rushing Yards            117           178  

Yards Per Carry          3.1           5.5  

Pass Attempts            36            44  

Completions              27            16  

Passing Yards            336           180  

Yards Per Attempt        9.3           4.0  

Sacked                   1             1  

Yards Lost               8             5  

Interceptions            0             4  

Fumbles/Lost             0/0           2/1  

  

Total Plays              74            77  

Total Yards              445           353  

Yards Per Play           6.0           4.5  

  

3rd Down Plays           4/16          5/13  

Avg. YTG on 3rd          5.3           9.2  

4th Down Plays           0/1           1/1  

  

Penalties                10            6  

Penalty Yards            80            45  

  

Avg. Drive Start         OWN 33        OWN 25  

Time Of Possession       39:54         31:31  

  

Chesapeake Individual Statistics  





Rushing                  Att    Yards  Avg    Long   TD  

33 Griffith              20     65     3.2    19     1  

25 Booker                10     25     2.5    5      0  

29 Aponte                5      17     3.4    7      0  

7 Woodyard               2      10     5.0    6      0  

  

Passing                  Att    Comp   Yards  Yd/Att Long   TD     Int    Sckd  

7 Woodyard               36     27     336    9.3    51     2      0      1  

  

Receiving                Catch  Yards  Avg    YAC    Long   TD  

88 O'Neill               9      156    17.3   30     51     0  

82 Isaia                 6      112    18.6   7      50     1  

83 Talent                5      29     5.8    24     9      0  

81 Lewis                 2      12     6.0    0      7      0  

89 Fields                2      8      4.0    1      7      1  

80 Amari                 1      11     11.0   9      11     0  

33 Griffith              1      3      3.0    0      3      0  

29 Aponte                1      5      5.0    2      5      0  

  

Punt Returns             Att    Yards  Avg    TD  

22 Ferderer              1      -2     -2.0   0  

  

Kick Returns             Att    Yards  Avg    TD  

88 O'Neill               3      64     21.3   0  

  

Punting                  Punts  Yards  Avg    Long   In20  

17 Clayton               8      351    43.8   52     5  

  

Kicking                  FG     FGA    Long   PAT    Att  

15 Dircks                1      3      27     3      3  

  

Defense                  Tackle Assist Sack   Int    IntYds IntTD  

32 Glover                8      2      0.0    0      0      0  

57 Humphrey              7      3      0.0    0      0      0  

52 Casas                 6      1      0.0    0      0      0  

43 Glover                5      3      0.0    0      0      0  

22 Ferderer              5      0      0.0    1      17     0  

75 Davison               3      1      0.0    0      0      0  

24 Lethert               2      3      0.0    2      23     0  

26 Collins               2      1      0.0    1      0      0  

99 Didier                2      0      0.0    0      0      0  

31 Medley                2      0      0.0    0      0      0  

46 Wright                2      0      0.0    0      0      0  

91 Carpenter             1      0      1.0    0      0      0  

77 Sherman               1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

55 Drury                 1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

72 Bishop                1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

89 Fields                1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

58 Emerson               1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

78 Brennan               1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

95 Harrison              1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

38 Gonzalez              1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

79 Lewkowitz             0      1      0.0    0      0      0  

  

Miscellaneous            Fumb   FForc  Recov  MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd  

64 Copeland              0      0      0      0      1      1  

55 Drury                 0      0      0      0      2      0  

77 Sherman               0      0      1      0      0      0  

32 Glover                0      1      0      0      0      0  

57 Humphrey              0      1      0      0      0      0  

29 Aponte                0      0      0      0      1      0  

78 Brennan               0      0      0      0      1      0  

67 Karinen               0      0      0      0      1      0  

  

Brooklyn Individual Statistics  

  

Rushing                  Att    Yards  Avg    Long   TD  

44 Schulz                10     64     6.4    27     0  

27 Lock                  9      48     5.3    15     0  

5 Tatum                  7      46     6.5    13     0  

39 Diaz                  3      8      2.6    4      0  

24 Compton               2      5      2.5    3      0  

49 Walton                1      7      7.0    7      0  

  

Passing                  Att    Comp   Yards  Yd/Att Long   TD     Int    Sckd  

5 Tatum                  44     16     180    4.0    33     2      4      1  

  

Receiving                Catch  Yards  Avg    YAC    Long   TD  

82 Ardizzone             5      70     14.0   6      18     0  

89 Trapp                 3      34     11.3   4      22     0  

83 Derosa                2      34     17.0   5      33     2  

12 Schwartz              1      7      7.0    2      7      0  

24 Compton               1      3      3.0    1      3      0  

81 Mahoney               1      11     11.0   2      11     0  

86 Lustgarten            1      10     10.0   0      10     0  

44 Schulz                1      10     10.0   7      10     0  

39 Diaz                  1      1      1.0    0      1      0  

  

Punt Returns             Att    Yards  Avg    TD  

83 Derosa                5      29     5.8    0  

  

Kick Returns             Att    Yards  Avg    TD  

83 Derosa                3      88     29.3   0  

  

Punting                  Punts  Yards  Avg    Long   In20  

16 Baxley                6      253    42.1   56     3  

  

Kicking                  FG     FGA    Long   PAT    Att  

18 Swope                 2      2      37     3      3  

  

Defense                  Tackle Assist Sack   Int    IntYds IntTD  

53 Gruden                11     6      0.0    0      0      0  

25 Franz                 10     5      0.0    0      0      0  

96 Mills                 6      5      0.0    0      0      0  

31 Ioja                  6      3      0.0    0      0      0  

78 Turnbull              5      0      1.0    0      0      0  

45 Dickinson             5      2      0.0    0      0      0  

59 Hopkins               4      2      0.0    0      0      0  

75 Barbee                4      0      0.0    0      0      0  

34 Dykes                 3      2      0.0    0      0      0  

30 Tveit                 3      0      0.0    0      0      0  

70 Hughes                2      2      0.0    0      0      0  

82 Ardizzone             2      0      0.0    0      0      0  

44 Schulz                2      0      0.0    0      0      0  

46 Burns                 1      2      0.0    0      0      0  

64 Plank                 1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

8 O'Toole                1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

91 Springer              1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

89 Trapp                 1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

41 Houser                1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

39 Diaz                  1      0      0.0    0      0      0  

32 Doyle                 0      1      0.0    0      0      0  

71 Benton                0      1      0.0    0      0      0  

  

Miscellaneous            Fumb   FForc  Recov  MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd  

61 Cortez                0      0      0      0      3      1  

74 Holmes                0      0      0      0      4      0  

56 Fleming               0      0      0      0      2      0  

31 Ioja                  0      0      0      1      0      0  

81 Mahoney               0      0      1      0      0      0  

44 Schulz                1      0      0      0      0      0  

5 Tatum                  1      0      0      0      0      0  

  

Chesapeake Drive Chart  

                  Quar   Began  Poss   From          Plays  Yards  Result  

                  1      13:34  2:44   OWN 41        5      16     Punt  

                  1      8:19   3:15   OWN 39        6      18     Punt  

                  1      3:24   1:11   OWN 43        3      8      Punt  

                  2      14:52  3:05   OWN 42        5      58     Touchdown  

                  2      8:45   3:52   OWN 27        8      31     Downs  

                  2      1:58   1:21   OWN 12        3      5      Punt  

                  2      0:37   0:33   OWN 20        4      70     Field Goal  

                  3      15:00  5:14   OWN 20        9      47     Missed FG  

                  3      8:03   2:12   OWN 20        3      9      Punt  

                  3      3:25   1:56   OWN 33        3      67     Touchdown  

                  3      0:43   1:19   OPP 27        3      2      Missed FG  

                  4      13:50  1:11   OPP 45        3      0      Punt  

                  4      12:01  2:01   OPP 46        5      46     Touchdown  

                  4      8:23   5:25   OWN 5         7      38     Punt  

                  4      0:15   0:15   OWN 20        2      7      Half  

                  OT1    15:00  2:03   OWN 27        3      9      Punt  

                  OT1    10:41  1:31   OWN 14        3      4      Punt  

  

Brooklyn Drive Chart  

                  Quar   Began  Poss   From          Plays  Yards  Result  

                  1      15:00  1:26   OWN 20        5      35     Interception  

                  1      10:50  2:31   OWN 4         5      22     Interception  

                  1      5:04   1:40   OWN 3         3      7      Punt  

                  1      2:13   2:21   OWN 11        5      24     Interception  

                  2      11:47  3:02   OWN 41        5      59     Touchdown  

                  2      4:53   2:55   OWN 42        5      7      Punt  

                  2      0:04   0:04   OWN 20        1      0      Half  

                  3      9:46   1:43   OWN 40        6      20     Punt  

                  3      5:51   2:26   OWN 40        8      60     Touchdown  

                  3      1:29   0:46   OWN 28        1      0      Interception  

                  4      14:24  0:34   OWN 32        2      13     Fumble  

                  4      12:39  0:38   OWN 20        3      0      Punt  

                  4      10:00  1:37   OWN 42        2      -3     Punt  

                  4      2:58   2:43   OWN 17        11     63     Field Goal  

                  OT1    12:57  2:16   OWN 19        5      20     Punt  

                  OT1    9:10   5:35   OWN 38        12     51     Field Goal  

  

Chesapeake Red Zone Profile  

                         Visits TDs    FGs  

                         4      3      1  

  

Brooklyn Red Zone Profile  

                         Visits TDs    FGs  

                         2      1      1  

  

Chesapeake Rushing Breakdown  

  

Direction                Rush   Yards  Ave  

Left                     9      19     2.1  

Middle                   24     81     3.3  

Right                    4      17     4.2  

None                     0      0      0.0  

  

Run Blocking             KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays  

55 Drury                 2      6      31  

67 Karinen               1      6      33  

29 Aponte                1      6      29  

78 Brennan               1      5      37  

64 Copeland              1      5      36  

72 Bishop                0      3      36  

83 Talent                0      2      31  

45 Owens                 0      1      3  

89 Fields                0      0      12  

66 McConnell             0      1      2  

58 Emerson               0      0      6  

65 Montana               0      0      4  

84 Clemens               0      0      1  

  

Chesapeake Passing Breakdown  

  

Distance                 Pass   Comp   Yards  Ave  

Screen                   6      5      28     4.6  

Short (0-8 Yds)          15     13     81     5.4  

Medium (9-18 Yds)        8      5      70     8.7  

Long (19+ Yds)           7      4      157    22.4  

  

Passing                  Attempt Comp  BdThrw Dropd  Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt  

7 Woodyard               36     27     0      1      4      0      4      0  

  

Receiving                Target Caught Dropd  Yards  PassPlay  

88 O'Neill               14     9      0      156    36  

83 Talent                7      5      0      29     35  

82 Isaia                 7      6      1      112    22  

81 Lewis                 3      2      0      12     11  

89 Fields                2      2      0      8      7  

80 Amari                 1      1      0      11     7  

33 Griffith              1      1      0      3      15  

29 Aponte                1      1      0      5      31  

  

Pass Block               SckAlwd       PassPlay  

78 Brennan               0             37  

64 Copeland              1             36  

72 Bishop                0             36  

67 Karinen               0             36  

55 Drury                 0             33  

29 Aponte                0             31  

58 Emerson               0             4  

66 McConnell             0             2  

45 Owens                 0             2  

65 Montana               0             1  

  

Pass Rush                Sacks  PsBlks Hurries PassPlay  

91 Carpenter             1.0    0      0      2  

77 Sherman               0.0    0      2      39  

94 Came                  0.0    0      2      38  

43 Glover                0.0    0      0      45  

32 Glover                0.0    0      0      45  

57 Humphrey              0.0    0      0      45  

22 Ferderer              0.0    0      0      44  

99 Didier                0.0    0      0      41  

26 Collins               0.0    0      0      36  

75 Davison               0.0    0      0      35  

52 Casas                 0.0    0      0      31  

95 Harrison              0.0    0      0      25  

76 Lyle                  0.0    0      1      11  

79 Lewkowitz             0.0    0      0      20  

24 Lethert               0.0    0      0      20  

93 King                  0.0    0      1      10  

31 Medley                0.0    0      0      7  

46 Wright                0.0    0      0      1  

  

Pass Defense             Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay  

43 Glover                4      1      0      45  

52 Casas                 3      2      0      31  

22 Ferderer              2      3      1      44  

32 Glover                2      0      0      45  

31 Medley                2      0      0      7  

57 Humphrey              1      1      0      45  

99 Didier                1      0      0      41  

24 Lethert               1      0      2      20  

26 Collins               0      2      1      36  

77 Sherman               0      0      0      39  

94 Came                  0      0      0      38  

75 Davison               0      0      0      35  

95 Harrison              0      0      0      25  

79 Lewkowitz             0      0      0      20  

76 Lyle                  0      0      0      11  

93 King                  0      0      0      10  

91 Carpenter             0      0      0      2  

46 Wright                0      0      0      1  

  

Defense                  Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay  

32 Glover                8      2      32     45  

57 Humphrey              7      3      32     45  

52 Casas                 6      1      24     31  

43 Glover                5      3      32     45  

22 Ferderer              5      0      31     44  

75 Davison               3      1      22     35  

24 Lethert               2      3      12     20  

26 Collins               2      1      28     36  

99 Didier                2      0      30     41  

31 Medley                2      0      3      7  

46 Wright                2      0      0      1  

77 Sherman               1      0      30     39  

95 Harrison              1      0      15     25  

91 Carpenter             1      0      1      2  

38 Gonzalez              1      0      0      0  

79 Lewkowitz             0      1      22     20  

94 Came                  0      0      24     38  

76 Lyle                  0      0      9      11  

93 King                  0      0      5      10  

  

Brooklyn Rushing Breakdown  

  

Direction                Rush   Yards  Ave  

Left                     7      43     6.1  

Middle                   22     128    5.8  

Right                    3      7      2.3  

None                     0      0      0.0  

  

Run Blocking             KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays  

74 Holmes                4      6      32  

61 Cortez                3      5      32  

56 Fleming               2      8      32  

64 Plank                 0      2      32  

39 Diaz                  0      3      20  

66 Stephens              0      2      24  

81 Mahoney               0      1      31  

60 Peters                0      0      8  

12 Schwartz              0      0      7  

24 Compton               0      0      7  

  

Brooklyn Passing Breakdown  

  

Distance                 Pass   Comp   Yards  Ave  

Screen                   2      1      10     5.0  

Short (0-8 Yds)          7      6      24     3.4  

Medium (9-18 Yds)        15     7      91     6.0  

Long (19+ Yds)           19     2      55     2.8  

  

Passing                  Attempt Comp  BdThrw Dropd  Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt  

5 Tatum                  44     16     6      2      9      0      6      4  

  

Receiving                Target Caught Dropd  Yards  PassPlay  

82 Ardizzone             11     5      0      70     39  

83 Derosa                8      2      0      34     29  

81 Mahoney               6      1      1      11     41  

89 Trapp                 5      3      0      34     20  

86 Lustgarten            4      1      0      10     15  

12 Schwartz              3      1      0      7      6  

44 Schulz                3      1      0      10     22  

39 Diaz                  2      1      1      1      26  

24 Compton               1      1      0      3      10  

  

Pass Block               SckAlwd       PassPlay  

64 Plank                 0             45  

61 Cortez                1             45  

56 Fleming               0             45  

74 Holmes                0             45  

66 Stephens              0             40  

39 Diaz                  0             26  

24 Compton               0             10  

60 Peters                0             5  

  

Pass Rush                Sacks  PsBlks Hurries PassPlay  

78 Turnbull              1.0    0      0      37  

70 Hughes                0.0    0      2      31  

75 Barbee                0.0    0      1      37  

25 Franz                 0.0    0      0      37  

96 Mills                 0.0    0      0      36  

31 Ioja                  0.0    0      0      34  

53 Gruden                0.0    0      0      33  

71 Benton                0.0    0      1      18  

45 Dickinson             0.0    0      0      27  

59 Hopkins               0.0    0      0      24  

34 Dykes                 0.0    0      0      24  

30 Tveit                 0.0    0      0      21  

91 Springer              0.0    0      0      19  

46 Burns                 0.0    0      0      10  

32 Doyle                 0.0    0      0      8  

41 Houser                0.0    0      0      3  

72 Levine                0.0    0      0      3  

90 Cobb                  0.0    0      0      3  

57 Cortez                0.0    0      0      2  

  

Pass Defense             Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay  

53 Gruden                5      0      0      33  

25 Franz                 4      0      0      37  

31 Ioja                  4      0      0      34  

34 Dykes                 3      0      0      24  

30 Tveit                 3      0      0      21  

45 Dickinson             2      0      0      27  

59 Hopkins               1      2      0      24  

70 Hughes                1      1      0      31  

78 Turnbull              1      0      0      37  

96 Mills                 1      0      0      36  

46 Burns                 1      0      0      10  

41 Houser                1      0      0      3  

75 Barbee                0      1      0      37  

91 Springer              0      0      0      19  

71 Benton                0      0      0      18  

32 Doyle                 0      0      0      8  

72 Levine                0      0      0      3  

90 Cobb                  0      0      0      3  

57 Cortez                0      0      0      2  

  

Defense                  Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay  

53 Gruden                11     6      33     33  

25 Franz                 10     5      37     37  

96 Mills                 6      5      36     36  

31 Ioja                  6      3      32     34  

45 Dickinson             5      2      31     27  

78 Turnbull              5      0      37     37  

59 Hopkins               4      2      26     24  

75 Barbee                4      0      36     37  

34 Dykes                 3      2      28     24  

30 Tveit                 3      0      20     21  

70 Hughes                2      2      35     31  

46 Burns                 1      2      6      10  

91 Springer              1      0      14     19  

41 Houser                1      0      3      3  

71 Benton                0      1      23     18  

32 Doyle                 0      1      5      8  

72 Levine                0      0      3      3  

57 Cortez                0      0      2      2  

90 Cobb                  0      0      0      3

The question is...given the day Woodyard had, the day Tatum had, and the ultimate result...where do you put this one in the "Levels of Losing" if you're a Chesapeake fan?

SackAttack · 02-19-2005, 05:44 AM

Dola,

ESPN has locked that particular nugget of Simmons' behind Insider, but there is, apparently, another way of reading it, if you haven't already:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...ype=page2Story

kcchief19 · 02-19-2005, 11:08 AM

Obviously winning the game with a -5 turnover ratio is impressive, but I think that's trumped by the blocked kick for a TD. I don't have the numbers, but I think the winning percentage for teams who block a kick for a TD are much better than turnover +/-. So there you go -- a reason to not feel guilty.

gstelmack · 02-19-2005, 11:32 AM

You gave up 5.5 ypc. Nice those other guys had a good game, but go yell at your DL/LBs over this one.

SackAttack · 02-19-2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

You gave up 5.5 ypc. Nice those other guys had a good game, but go yell at your DL/LBs over this one.

I was Brooklyn, not Chesapeake.

SackAttack · 02-19-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Obviously winning the game with a -5 turnover ratio is impressive, but I think that's trumped by the blocked kick for a TD. I don't have the numbers, but I think the winning percentage for teams who block a kick for a TD are much better than turnover +/-. So there you go -- a reason to not feel guilty.

It's not just the turnover rate, though. It's the fact that Tatum was so completely atrocious and won the game anyway, while Woodyard had a great game and got to go home the loser in overtime.

FWIW, in Week 10, the roles were reversed - Tatum had a near-perfect game, and Woodyard was very nearly as atrocious as Tatum had been in Week 1. Life, of course, doesn't usually feature poetic symmetry, and, of course, Woodyard wasn't lucky enough to come away with the win despite the reversal of fortune.

02-19-2005, 11:32 AM	#4
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	You gave up 5.5 ypc. Nice those other guys had a good game, but go yell at your DL/LBs over this one. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

02-19-2005, 05:44 AM	#2
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Dola, ESPN has locked that particular nugget of Simmons' behind Insider, but there is, apparently, another way of reading it, if you haven't already: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...ype=page2Story

02-19-2005, 11:08 AM	#3
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Obviously winning the game with a -5 turnover ratio is impressive, but I think that's trumped by the blocked kick for a TD. I don't have the numbers, but I think the winning percentage for teams who block a kick for a TD are much better than turnover +/-. So there you go -- a reason to not feel guilty.

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