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Old 02-19-2005, 01:29 PM   #1
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QB height- is it a factor in FOF?

When drafting QBs in FOF, should the player's height be taken into consideration? With the rare exception of Doug Flutie, most QBs seem to need to be tall enough to see over the OL and DL. But is it really a factor in this game?
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:33 PM   #2
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Nope. Height is purely cosmetic in FOF, for QBs and other players.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:34 PM   #3
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i heard it wasn't. just weight. i still like to steer away from shorter guys cuz real life GM's do.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:39 PM   #4
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one vote yes, one vote no.
If I had to guess, I'd say weight would be the meaningful rating, since I believe it does change from season to season (or is that only in TCY?). I would expect he would not have factored weight changes into the game if they were meaningless. But height is the thing I'm concerned with.
There's this 5'9" QB I'm thinking of drafting....
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:41 PM   #5
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draft him!!
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:43 PM   #6
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what you mean "one vote yes, one vote no"? common knowledge that height doesn't play a role in ratings/stats. draft away.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:43 PM   #7
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draft him!!
That's what I would expect a guy named "Shorty" to say.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:51 PM   #8
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what you mean "one vote yes, one vote no"? common knowledge that height doesn't play a role in ratings/stats. draft away.

Sorry. I misunderstood your other post...thought you were disputing Fantastic Flying Froggies statement that height was cosmetic.

Thanks to all for your help!
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:57 PM   #9
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These are my QB's:

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Old 02-19-2005, 02:07 PM   #10
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In looking at both IHOF and my single-player career, here are the heights of the usual starting QBs (note that this may differ from the players *currently* starting as a result of injury):

IHOF
Anaheim Matterhorns: Claude Maxwell, 6'2"
Ann Arbor Anachronism: Donald Woods, 6'
Asheville Axemen: Thad Pilkington, 6'4"
Astoria Heroes: Seth Dwight, 6'2"
Bordeaux Vineyards: Joe Johnson, 6'1"
Boston Rhinos: Robby Gonzalez, 6'5"
Boulder Blizzard: Julius Irvine, 6'5"
Brooklyn Fightin' Bums: Vinnie Simmons, 6'4"
Chesapeake Chitterlings: Jaime Canter, 6'1"
Columbus Architects: Curtis Corbett, 6'2"
Conyers Condors: Chris Donaldson, 5'10"
Fairbanks Northstars: Joey Allen, 6'2"
Fort Worth Fury: Shawn Jahr, 6'4"
Frederick Red Menace: Jackie Percy, 6'3"
Georgia Gridlock: Nate Sutter, 6'6"
Gothenburg Giants: Duane Davis, 6'3"
Maassluis Merchants: Louie Flannery, 6'4"
Miami Sharks: Woodrow Taylor, 6'2"
Minnesota Miners: Amos Hicks, 5'11"
North Plainfield Plague: David Conti, 6'2"
Orlando Knights: Michael Prescott, 5'10"
Outer Banks Ospreys: Mario Hudson, 6'3"
Paris Musketeers: E.G. Lumpkin, 6'4"
RayCo Raiders: Neal Aguillard, 5'11"
Rochester Lake Monsters: Jackie Williamson, 6'1"
San Antonio Volunteers: John McMasters, 6'5"
San Luis Obispo Burn, Everett Glenn, 6'3"
Springfield Isotopes, Leonard Lyon, 6'1"
Syracuse Mohawks, Brent Peterman, 6'2"
Telluride Outlaws, Norm Rizzo, 6'4"
Tucker Tigers, Caleb Dinger, 6'1"
Vicksburg Vipers, Gabe Macaluso, 6'4"

Single-player
Anaheim Matterhorns: Phil Murphy, 6'1"
Ann Arbor Anachronism: Marshall Hutson, 6'2"
Asheville Axemen: Derek Dillon, 6'2"
Astoria Heroes: Kendall Prescott, 5'9" (51/56)
Bordeaux Vineyards: David Garrison, 5'10" (62/66)
Boston Rhinos: Omar Rodriguez, 6'
Boulder Blizzard: Howard Warren, 5'9" (57/57)
Brooklyn Fightin' Bums: Percy Tatum, 5'11" (54/88)
Chesapeake Chitterlings: Moe Woodyard, 6'4"
Columbus Architects: Mark Martin, 6'4"
Conyers Condors: J.T. Rodriguez, 6'
Fairbanks Northstars: Brock O'Donnell, 6'3"
Fort Worth Fury: Carlos Jostes, 6'
Frederick Red Menace: Desmond Carter, 6'1"
Georgia Gridlock: Quinn Griffin, 5'9" (47/75)
Gothenburg Giants: Duane Troy, 6'3"
Maassluis Merchants: Earnest Montana, 6'1"
Miami Sharks: Ty Shea, 6'2"
Minnesota Miners: Terrell Hernandez, 6'
North Plainfield Plague: Les Lester, 6'5"
Orlando Knights: O.J. Douglas, 6'5"
Outer Banks Ospreys: Mike Lacasse, 6'4"
Paris Musketeers: Colin Keith, 5'10" (34/65)
RayCo Raiders: Hardy Spiliotis, 6'
Rochester Lake Monsters: Donald Copeland, 6'4"
San Antonio Volunteers: Leon Jenkins, 6'2"
San Luis Obispo Burn, Tommie Watson, 6'2"
Springfield Isotopes, Marco Calloway, 6'4"
Syracuse Mohawks, Ben Green, 5'10" (61/75)
Telluride Outlaws, Billy Joe Lathon, 6'5"
Tucker Tigers, Chad Hickman, 6'3"
Vicksburg Vipers, Marcus Lamm, 6'2"

For my single-player career, I've listed the scout overview ratings for the guys under 6 feet tall, just to give you an idea. It doesn't seem to matter much, aside from cosmetically.

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Old 02-19-2005, 02:25 PM   #11
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That's what I would expect a guy named "Shorty" to say.

i'm 5'9, so yea.

back in '82 i could throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

draft him.
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:27 PM   #12
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And since we're now labeling people based on their username.

What does it matter how tall he is when all he needs to do is take the snap and hand it off to his halfback?
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:37 PM   #13
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And since we're now labeling people based on their username.

What does it matter how tall he is when all he needs to do is take the snap and hand it off to his halfback?

Good point!!!
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:42 PM   #14
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And since we're now labeling people based on their username.

Well, you may not know it, but i am really a bunch of fantastic flying froggies...
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:44 PM   #15
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For my single-player career, I've listed the scout overview ratings for the guys under 6 feet tall, just to give you an idea. It doesn't seem to matter much, aside from cosmetically.

Thanks SackAttack.
So I'm convinced, height has no meaning in FOF. Now, it might be a great feature to add to any future version. It'd be nice to know that a taller QB would have an advantage over a shorter one, and a taller WR would have a definite advantage over a shorter CB.

This all brings up another question though. In my TCY career, I see a HUGE amount of passes blocked at the line. I've always thought this might be a result of some ratio of QB height: DL height. Maybe not. Is the consensus the same for TCY: height doesn't matter?
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