Clarett just ran a 4.82

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-26-2005, 12:38 PM

I'm watching the combine right now on the NFL network and the RBs. Clarett just ran an unofficial 4.82!! His stock has got to be dropping fast. Even all the unknowns are getting under 4.6, so his time is real disappointing. There were some 250+ fullbacks even running 4.6 or so. Some RBs are running 4.4/4.38. So, it isn't necessarily a slow track.

I think he has one more run coming up.

INDalltheway · 02-26-2005, 12:41 PM

I run a 4.92, and I'm a stiff, white boy!

Draft Dodger · 02-26-2005, 12:41 PM

well, it's not like he had any time to prepare...

VPI97 · 02-26-2005, 12:43 PM

His second run was in the 4.75 range.

Meanwhile, Ronnie Brown just ran a 4.32

Comey · 02-26-2005, 12:47 PM

Ronnie Brown ran a 4.32?

For the love of God, Philly, trade up!!!

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-26-2005, 12:47 PM

His time was actually an official 4.89!!!! His second run was an unofficial 4.72.

Ronnie Brown of Auburn just ran 4.40 and 4.32 unofficial!!!That last number was pretty impressive. it will earn him $$$$.

Benson chose not to run. Disappointing.

Gary Gorski · 02-26-2005, 12:48 PM

Don't worry he'll just have the timer change the time for him or someone else run it in his place...oh wait, he's not at OSU anymore. Too bad Mo - at least he's got that college education to fall back on...well, I'm sure there's a McDonalds back in Columbus. He can watch the kiddies in the playland and sign autographs for Buckeye fan.

Buccaneer · 02-26-2005, 12:54 PM

Keep your eyes on his lawyers and his mother, they will place the blame elsewhere.

HomerJSimpson · 02-26-2005, 01:05 PM

What about Cadillac?

bhlloy · 02-26-2005, 01:06 PM

Ronnie Brown looks GOOD... he's my clear number one now. Not sure why Benson wouldn't run - pretty boneheaded move IMO.

Clarett hurt himself, but he's got nothing to worry about. Someone is going to take a flyer on him and he'll go higher than he should.

For the O-Lineman, Scott Young out of BYU put up some scary numbers and looks to have some serious upside. Great day for him. Jammal Brown looked good as well apparently with Alex Barron not working out, but I didn't see that bit of the program.

cthomer5000 · 02-26-2005, 01:10 PM

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

HomerJSimpson · 02-26-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

Naw, he'll run again and miraculously come in well under that time. There is a sucker born every minute, and many of them have input on draft day.

BigJohn&TheLions · 02-26-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

This was obviously intentional so that he can choose what NFL team he wants to play for. Maurice Clarett plays football for the love of the game, not for money. He has never been about money and never will be. He will sign with the Oakland Raiders and rush for 2,500 yards as a rookie. He will then bear Randy Moss' love child and appear on the Jerry Springer show.

HomerJSimpson · 02-26-2005, 01:18 PM

I'm reading now that Williams didn't run. Even with that run from Brown, I think Caddy will be a better NFL RB. Not that either one is going to be bad, mind.

korme · 02-26-2005, 01:52 PM

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

cthomer5000 · 02-26-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

Yeah, but you have to put this in perspective. These aren't bad times for an RB, they're terrible times for an RB.

All that talk about sneaking back into Day 1 is finished now, believe me. He's a very late round pick, if at all, IMHO.

This is barring some spectaculary turn-around at a personal workout.

MacroGuru · 02-26-2005, 02:05 PM

I run a 4.76 and I am an overweight white guy playing ball....damn, I should be at the combine!

Draft Dodger · 02-26-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

Emmitt Smith ran a 4.75?

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-26-2005, 02:28 PM

I agree speed is not everything, but for a guy who won't have played in 2 seasons, and with all the baggage, he really needed to "impress" to improve his draft position. Not saying he won't be good in the NFL, just that he won't be drafted high at all.

Glengoyne · 02-26-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

So Bright? I mean I looked at him in College, and all I saw was Kijana Carter or any one of many other Running backs that had success with a big time program. After watching three quarters of Steven Jackson, I was saying "Maurice who? It doesn't matter if he gets into the draft this year at all. He isn't fit to carry this guys jock".

Ryche · 02-26-2005, 02:36 PM

Brown may end up the top running back taken with that time. One big thing he has over Benson is wear and tear. Brown only has about 500 carries for his carrier at Auburn while Benson started all 4 years and had 3 times as many carries.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-26-2005, 02:44 PM

I really wish I could see the NFL combine without having the NFL network.

TazFTW · 02-26-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

Emmitt Smith ran a 4.75?

Emmitt was in the 4.5s.

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Originally Posted by Ryche

One big thing he has over Benson is wear and tear. Brown only has about 500 carries for his carrier at Auburn while Benson started all 4 years and had 3 times as many carries.

There's also some personality problems with Benson. He's been in trouble for marijuana possession and criminal trespassing and when asked about that he said, "Who makes it through 4 years of college without anything on their record!" Haven't seen a picture of him recently but I heard he cut his dreads off because he didn't want any team to associate him with that other dreadlocked RB from Texas.

vex · 02-26-2005, 02:55 PM

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?

ISiddiqui · 02-26-2005, 02:56 PM

LOL... this is pretty damned funny. I wonder what round Clarett is taken... if at all.

BigJohn&TheLions · 02-26-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

I heard he cut his dreads off because he didn't want any team to associate him with that other dreadlocked RB from Texas.

Yeah. No other former Texas RB recently cut his dreads off...

vex · 02-26-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

Yeah. No other former Texas RB recently cut his dreads off...

Good point.

Crapshoot · 02-26-2005, 05:09 PM

The hatred towards Clarett never fails to astound me. He's not someone I'd want to be friends with and may not be a particularly redeeming character, but my god, start telling some facts about the hypocrisy that is college football....

gottimd · 02-26-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?

My fiance thought he was cute.

vex · 02-26-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

My fiance thought he was cute.

lol, I asked for that.

Icy · 02-26-2005, 07:56 PM

Is there any website to see the combine results, etc?

TazFTW · 02-26-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?

He ran a 5.08 40. That's the only number I've seen concerning him.

Ragone · 02-26-2005, 10:30 PM

its hard to run fast when you are worried about your cd collection in your car being stolen

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-26-2005, 10:54 PM

I think Emmitt was a little higher than the 4.5's.

I didn't see Jamaal Brown, but the commentators named him among the top 3 that impressed people.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-26-2005, 10:56 PM

Ditto on Icy's question about anywhere to find detailed results online. The only places I've found by Googling are pay sites, and my interest isn't that high. (But I'd like to see how Odell Thurman did in order to do a little write-up for his/my local newspaper.)

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-26-2005, 11:12 PM

This from Len Pasquarelli. Tough times for Clarett. Interesting article though, because although Pasquarelli says Clarett quit the rest of the drills, I saw him doing the vertical leap on NFL Network. Maybe the 40 was after that (I was watching probably a repeat from earlier today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...len&id=2000680

Len is thinking he may go undrafted. Amazing what poor decisions in your life can do to you. Didn't he ever hear the proverbial "stay in school." I say this not really to dis the guy, but just as an observation about some bad decisions.

Young Drachma · 02-26-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

This from Len Pasquarelli. Tough times for Clarett. Interesting article though, because although Pasquarelli says Clarett quit the rest of the drills, I saw him doing the vertical leap on NFL Network. Maybe the 40 was after that (I was watching probably a repeat from earlier today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...len&id=2000680

Len is thinking he may go undrafted. Amazing what poor decisions in your life can do to you. Didn't he ever hear the proverbial "stay in school." I say this not really to dis the guy, but just as an observation about some bad decisions.

I dunno. It's not like he wasn't part of a system that he basically thought he was bigger than, brought him down. Oh well, there is always Arena Football.

daedalus · 02-27-2005, 12:48 AM

One thing that always bothered me about 40 times was I always thought they should be running them in pads.

JAG · 02-27-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

This from Len Pasquarelli. Tough times for Clarett. Interesting article though, because although Pasquarelli says Clarett quit the rest of the drills, I saw him doing the vertical leap on NFL Network. Maybe the 40 was after that (I was watching probably a repeat from earlier today.

Len is thinking he may go undrafted. Amazing what poor decisions in your life can do to you. Didn't he ever hear the proverbial "stay in school." I say this not really to dis the guy, but just as an observation about some bad decisions.

*I think the thing that hurts him as much as his times are that he quit the rest of the drills. That hurts him in two ways: 1. Supposedly he is more quick than fast, so doing some of the quickness drills could've really helped his cause whereas now no one knows how his quickness compares with other backs and 2. It speaks volumes to his character on the football field. Is he going to walk off the field after getting shut down for his first -2 yard carry? I wouldn't want to have a player on my team that gets so down on himself that he won't go out and compete his best even when things aren't going great. At this point, the only real selling point you could give me is that he's quite young and hasn't had many carries in his career.

* - Please take the above with a grain of salt, as I never saw a single carry from the guy.

MIJB#19 · 02-27-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by daedalus

One thing that always bothered me about 40 times was I always thought they should be running them in pads.

Excellent point.

Celeval · 02-27-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Ronnie Brown of Auburn just ran 4.40 and 4.32 unofficial!!!That last number was pretty impressive. it will earn him $$$$

Scout.com is implying in their grammar-challenged combine blog that Carnell Williams ran an even better time:

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Carnell Williams / RB / Auburn

- Ran well this morning , besting the times Ronnie Brown good catching workout.

They seemed to be pretty on-target with their assessments the last few days; that's where I first heard Clarett's times and Ronnie's times.

Celeval · 02-27-2005, 10:59 AM

Dola...

Also says later that T.A. McLendon "struggled to get under 4.7", which isn't much of a surprise, but really puts Clarett's struggles in perspective.

Yesterday's fastest official 40 time for a RB/FB was J.J. Arrington out of Cal, with a 4.43 and a 4.41. Brown's official times were apparently 4.45 and 4.42. Deandra Cobb (MSU) was also sub-4.5 for both runs. That's including about half of the RBs who are working out (some are going today).

JeeberD · 02-27-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Is there any website to see the combine results, etc?

I just found this today...

http://www.neworleansprofootball.com...nextlevel.html

Icy · 02-27-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Scout.com is implying in their grammar-challenged combine blog that Carnell Williams ran an even better time:

They seemed to be pretty on-target with their assessments the last few days; that's where I first heard Clarett's times and Ronnie's times.

OT: Are you a subscriber? worths for the whole year as sports news source? Last year i subscribed to profootball weekly and now i'm thinking on where to subscribe this year, ESPN insider, scout.com or again PFW.

Sun Tzu · 02-27-2005, 12:28 PM

How fast do you think Barry ran the 40? I use to call him "the fastest, smallest, most elusive fullback in the game" because he would always get caught from behind. Not comparing Clarret to Barry in any way shape or form...just wondering.

Celeval · 02-27-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

OT: Are you a subscriber? worths for the whole year as sports news source? Last year i subscribed to profootball weekly and now i'm thinking on where to subscribe this year, ESPN insider, scout.com or again PFW.

I subscribe to berniesinsiders.com, which is the Browns-specific version of scout.com. Really, I do it for the premium boards and various stuff there, and it includes certain of the insiders columns.

sovereignstar · 02-27-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Taur on 12-13-2003

Clarett will be a top 5 pick easy in 2004.

From what I have read in the papers the NFL does not have a leg to stand on legally. Wasn't this story on page 2, since page 1 was covered with the News that a 14 year old has just signed a multi-million dollor contract to play soccer? Now, if the NFL wants to make it an eductaional requirement and not an age requirement, they may have a chance in court. Of course requiring all NFL players to have a college degree would probably result in having to fire about 75% of the current players.

Prediction: After blowing away his critics at the 2004 combine Clarett will be selected 3rd overall by the Detroit Lions.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ad.php?t=18534

Edit: Worst. Prediction. Ever. .

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 02-27-2005, 01:03 PM

Maybe the crew didnt have the proper set up. It could also be that his shoes werent hard enough.

dixieflatline · 02-27-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Deandra Cobb (MSU) was also sub-4.5 for both runs. That's including about half of the RBs who are working out (some are going today).

I think he could be an interesting player. I started to pay attention to him after he put up 205 yards at michigan. Super fast and averaged 7.6 YPC but only got the ball 96 times. 5'10" but only 200 lbs. he probably isn't an everydown back but if he learned how to catch he could be a real sleeper.

cthomer5000 · 02-27-2005, 09:36 PM

A brief overview of Maurice Clarett:

Has played one season of college football
Hasn't played in two years
Had legal and academic problems while in school
Ran incredibly slow at the combine

Again, i'll be stunned if he goes before the 7th round (unless he looks like a different guy in his personal workout).

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02-26-2005, 12:47 PM	#6
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	His time was actually an official 4.89!!!! His second run was an unofficial 4.72. Ronnie Brown of Auburn just ran 4.40 and 4.32 unofficial!!!That last number was pretty impressive. it will earn him $$$$. Benson chose not to run. Disappointing. Last edited by Vinatieri for Prez : 02-26-2005 at 12:56 PM.

02-26-2005, 12:48 PM	#7
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Don't worry he'll just have the timer change the time for him or someone else run it in his place...oh wait, he's not at OSU anymore. Too bad Mo - at least he's got that college education to fall back on...well, I'm sure there's a McDonalds back in Columbus. He can watch the kiddies in the playland and sign autographs for Buckeye fan. __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

02-26-2005, 12:41 PM	#2
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	I run a 4.92, and I'm a stiff, white boy!

02-26-2005, 12:54 PM	#8
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Keep your eyes on his lawyers and his mother, they will place the blame elsewhere.

02-26-2005, 01:05 PM	#9
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	What about Cadillac?

02-26-2005, 01:06 PM	#10
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Ronnie Brown looks GOOD... he's my clear number one now. Not sure why Benson wouldn't run - pretty boneheaded move IMO. Clarett hurt himself, but he's got nothing to worry about. Someone is going to take a flyer on him and he'll go higher than he should. For the O-Lineman, Scott Young out of BYU put up some scary numbers and looks to have some serious upside. Great day for him. Jammal Brown looked good as well apparently with Alex Barron not working out, but I didn't see that bit of the program.

02-26-2005, 01:18 PM	#14
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	I'm reading now that Williams didn't run. Even with that run from Brown, I think Caddy will be a better NFL RB. Not that either one is going to be bad, mind.

02-26-2005, 01:52 PM	#15
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

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MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I run a 4.76 and I am an overweight white guy playing ball....damn, I should be at the combine! __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

02-26-2005, 02:28 PM	#19
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	I agree speed is not everything, but for a guy who won't have played in 2 seasons, and with all the baggage, he really needed to "impress" to improve his draft position. Not saying he won't be good in the NFL, just that he won't be drafted high at all.

02-26-2005, 02:36 PM	#21
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	Brown may end up the top running back taken with that time. One big thing he has over Benson is wear and tear. Brown only has about 500 carries for his carrier at Auburn while Benson started all 4 years and had 3 times as many carries. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

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vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	LOL... this is pretty damned funny. I wonder what round Clarett is taken... if at all. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-26-2005, 05:09 PM	#28
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	The hatred towards Clarett never fails to astound me. He's not someone I'd want to be friends with and may not be a particularly redeeming character, but my god, start telling some facts about the hypocrisy that is college football....

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02-26-2005, 10:30 PM	#33
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	its hard to run fast when you are worried about your cd collection in your car being stolen

02-26-2005, 10:54 PM	#34
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	I think Emmitt was a little higher than the 4.5's. I didn't see Jamaal Brown, but the commentators named him among the top 3 that impressed people.

02-26-2005, 10:56 PM	#35
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Ditto on Icy's question about anywhere to find detailed results online. The only places I've found by Googling are pay sites, and my interest isn't that high. (But I'd like to see how Odell Thurman did in order to do a little write-up for his/my local newspaper.) __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-26-2005, 11:12 PM	#36
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	This from Len Pasquarelli. Tough times for Clarett. Interesting article though, because although Pasquarelli says Clarett quit the rest of the drills, I saw him doing the vertical leap on NFL Network. Maybe the 40 was after that (I was watching probably a repeat from earlier today. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...len&id=2000680 Len is thinking he may go undrafted. Amazing what poor decisions in your life can do to you. Didn't he ever hear the proverbial "stay in school." I say this not really to dis the guy, but just as an observation about some bad decisions.

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daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	One thing that always bothered me about 40 times was I always thought they should be running them in pads.

02-27-2005, 10:59 AM	#42
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Dola... Also says later that T.A. McLendon "struggled to get under 4.7", which isn't much of a surprise, but really puts Clarett's struggles in perspective. Yesterday's fastest official 40 time for a RB/FB was J.J. Arrington out of Cal, with a 4.43 and a 4.41. Brown's official times were apparently 4.45 and 4.42. Deandra Cobb (MSU) was also sub-4.5 for both runs. That's including about half of the RBs who are working out (some are going today).

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Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	How fast do you think Barry ran the 40? I use to call him "the fastest, smallest, most elusive fullback in the game" because he would always get caught from behind. Not comparing Clarret to Barry in any way shape or form...just wondering. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

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