FM: 5.0.3 Patch Is Out!

Router Help · 03-02-2005, 08:54 AM

Available now using BitTorrent, direct download later today I think. World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.

Torrents:

Without Data

Size : 37mb. The increase from the announced size is due to the language packs being included. We apologise for issuing an incorrect filesize

http://62.73.186.71/torrent/btdownlo...ta.exe.torrent

With Data

Size : 84mb

http://62.73.186.71/torrent/btdownlo...ta.exe.torrent

For the entire fix list: http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...1/m/7662053011

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 09:01 AM

sweet!!!

I have a question about the patch though, hoping Marc Vaughan will read in here... If I plan on keeping on playing my current career (i.e. not restart), is there an advantage in downloading the data update right now, or should I only download the patch without the data update?

I will probably download the whole thing, but I'm wondering if it'll do anything to my game if I download the patch with or without the data update. Reason why I plan to download the whole is that I will eventually start another game, I just want to keep on playing with my current career for a little while...

Thanks in advance.

FM

Router Help · 03-02-2005, 09:07 AM

I'm pretty sure that the data update won't effect your current games. That data is already locked into the save game file.

HomerJSimpson · 03-02-2005, 09:33 AM

The data updates doesn't affect save games. Never has.

moriarty · 03-02-2005, 09:40 AM

Awesome. Just wondering how much porn I'll have to delete to be able to get the 84mB on my computer.

Celeval · 03-02-2005, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Router Help

World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.

Marc Vaughan · 03-02-2005, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

sweet!!!

I have a question about the patch though, hoping Marc Vaughan will read in here... If I plan on keeping on playing my current career (i.e. not restart), is there an advantage in downloading the data update right now, or should I only download the patch without the data update?

I will probably download the whole thing, but I'm wondering if it'll do anything to my game if I download the patch with or without the data update. Reason why I plan to download the whole is that I will eventually start another game, I just want to keep on playing with my current career for a little while...

Thanks in advance.

FM

The data update will only be 'active' in new games so if you're continuing a game it will make no difference to things ...

PS> Sorry for the delay in replying I'm actually off work today (believe it or not

)

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

The data update will only be 'active' in new games so if you're continuing a game it will make no difference to things ...

PS> Sorry for the delay in replying I'm actually off work today (believe it or not

)

Thanks for the answer, but this delay was INEXCUSABLE!!! Seriously, thanks. As I said, I'll probably download the full update, install the whole thing and have it ready for whenever I'll start a new career...

Thanks again, now go enjoy a beer, before the whiners start reminding you that you have made a game that is unplayable and not worthy of their money

FM

MikeVick7 · 03-02-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

Thanks for the answer, but this delay was INEXCUSABLE!!! Seriously, thanks. As I said, I'll probably download the full update, install the whole thing and have it ready for whenever I'll start a new career...

Thanks again, now go enjoy a beer, before the whiners start reminding you that you have made a game that is unplayable and not worthy of their money

FM

I'm actually afraid to peek at the SI boards right now to discover the first negative 5.03 patch thread.

SlapBone · 03-02-2005, 10:24 AM

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.

Marc Vaughan · 03-02-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlapBone

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.

WWSM will have a seperate patch because its CD has a different ID .... sorry for any inconvenience.

PraetorianX · 03-02-2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVick7

I'm actually afraid to peek at the SI boards right now to discover the first negative 5.03 patch thread.

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

Your welcome.

HomerJSimpson · 03-02-2005, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlapBone

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.

But, the old patches worked. It might be this one will, too, but if it doesn't it will not be my fault.

HomerJSimpson · 03-02-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PraetorianX

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

Your welcome.

What!!! I demand a refund!!!

SlapBone · 03-02-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

But, the old patches worked. It might be this one will, too, but if it doesn't it will not be my fault.

I realized why I've never had a problem with the FM patches... nothing to see here...move along now.

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 12:34 PM

The Dugout usually rocks for downloading patches/demos/etc, two thumbs up!

www.thedugout.net

FM

edit: damn clock bug. this is in fact a reply to scooter's post. Don't want it to look like I came up with the idea of downloading from the Dugout. Thanks for the scoop scooter!

scooter · 03-02-2005, 12:36 PM

For those that don't want to mess with BitTorrent (hand raised), The Dugout has both FM 5.0.3 patches posted over there on their website (w/ data and w/out). Download speed was decent too.

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAsterling

Thanks Scooter - I don't want BitTorrent either....appreciate the info

There are also a few mirrors for the regular downaload that are beginning to show up on the SI forum...

FM

CAsterling · 03-02-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter

For those that don't want to mess with BitTorrent (hand raised), The Dugout has both FM 5.0.3 patches posted over there on their website (w/ data and w/out). Download speed was decent too.

Thanks Scooter - I don't want BitTorrent either....appreciate the info

Desnudo · 03-02-2005, 02:30 PM

Ditto that.

I'm getting a good transfer rate from the one in the first post of this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...1/m/7362035011

FrogMan · 03-02-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PraetorianX

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

Your welcome.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Just read that thread over at SI. Good stuff

FM

condors · 03-02-2005, 04:51 PM

crap i just installed the patch and everything is now in a different language

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2005, 04:56 PM

Just got home from work, and very glad to see it is out. Thanks for the dugout link FM!

Thanks to Marc and the crew for continuing to improve the game

Edited: Just re-read the thread. Thanks Scooter for the heads up on the dugout site

Sharpieman · 03-02-2005, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by condors

crap i just installed the patch and everything is now in a different language

This happened to me too, all you need to do is remember where the preferences thing is located and change it.

condors · 03-02-2005, 05:08 PM

yeah i got it just took a bunch of clicking to figure it out

jbmagic · 03-02-2005, 05:23 PM

for people that have the game.

how is the MLS league now with new patch?

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2005, 05:28 PM

My guess is that it will be at least a few days before anyone can assess how MLS is now, unless they were a beta tester for the patch. I know I'll be at least a few days away from trying MLS (although I do look forward to giving it a spin with this patch.)

GoldenEagle · 03-02-2005, 05:34 PM

I am loading up a MLS league as we speak.

Sharpieman · 03-02-2005, 05:35 PM

I was thinking of doing a holiday test before I leave for class tonight and running it for a few years on just an MLS league to see how the regens turn out and if the league doesn't get screwed up.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2005, 05:40 PM

My bad. I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys, as I really want to have a serious MLS dynasty at some point.

I also had the language problem. For those experiencing it, click on the only lit up link on the top of the opening page. Then, click on the 4th option that is lit up (counting from the top.) Then, click on the top option that is lit up and choose the language of your choice.

jbmagic · 03-02-2005, 05:42 PM

thanks

I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys with the latest patch.

kingfc22 · 03-02-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Router

Help World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.

Chief Rum · 03-02-2005, 11:34 PM

Amazing. This always happens with SIGames patches. Stop using BITTORRENT!! (and make regular download options easier to find).

If someone can just post a straight download straight into this thread, I would really, really appreciate it. I go to the Dugout, and I only find Bit Torrent. I go to SIGames mirror sites that are supposedly for straight downloads, and I get one that is actually a Bit Torrent link, a second (in German too, I think) that I can't get my popup blocker to allow (and, no, I can't seem to get ym blocker to ignore it), and a third that leads to a dead link.

Crap, it's almost like they want to hide a regular link.

CR

GoldenEagle · 03-02-2005, 11:34 PM

I can send you the .exe file over AIM.

vyshka · 03-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Look under downloads on the dugout website. It is there, just not on the main page for some reason. If it horks the language setting you will need to go into options and set the language back to your preference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Amazing. This always happens with SIGames patches. Stop using BITTORRENT!! (and make regular download options easier to find).

If someone can just post a straight download straight into this thread, I would really, really appreciate it. I go to the Dugout, and I only find Bit Torrent. I go to SIGames mirror sites that are supposedly for straight downloads, and I get one that is actually a Bit Torrent link, a second (in German too, I think) that I can't get my popup blocker to allow (and, no, I can't seem to get ym blocker to ignore it), and a third that leads to a dead link.

Crap, it's almost like they want to hide a regular link.

CR

ISiddiqui · 03-03-2005, 12:01 AM

It's now tomorrow... where is that WWSM patch!

Chief Rum · 03-03-2005, 12:10 AM

Thank you, vyshka. I actually checked that (The Dugout's download section), but had problems with my blocker there, too. I played around with things a bit and finally got it to download the file.

Thanks for the offer, GE.

Vinatieri for Prez · 03-03-2005, 01:14 AM

A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

vyshka · 03-03-2005, 01:18 AM

I think the only difference (Marc can correct me on this) is the terms used in text. It uses terms more familiar to Americans. I ordered FM2005 from the UK
when it came out bc I didn't want to wait for WWSM. So I can't say for sure,
but I imagine a search of the sigames forums will find threads dealing with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

ISiddiqui · 03-03-2005, 01:29 AM

Yeah, I think the only changes are minor text things. I don't notice anything wierd with WWSM, in terms of how things are refered.

Pumpy Tudors · 03-03-2005, 01:36 AM

I'm waiting patiently for the WSM patch. I'll probably restart my career since I had activated too many leagues, and it was just taking too long to process anything for my liking. I still managed to get through nearly two seasons, though.

What's with the aversion to BitTorrent? Since the WSM patch isn't out yet, I haven't tried BitTorrent for this particular file, but are there too few seeds or something? I would think that BT would be absolutely perfect for a file with such demand. Isn't that the point of BT in the first place?

FrogMan · 03-03-2005, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

see this thread for the difference between the two:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...highlight=wwsm

FM

Chief Rum · 03-03-2005, 08:45 AM

The aversion to Bit Torrent is more a personal thing with me, Pumpy (although I wouldn't be surprised if there are others).

It just seems very complicated. I always have a lot of problems when I try to download a file using Bit Torrent. It's not really an intuitive program.

Meanwhile, a straight download is a very simple process to handle, and I have cable, so the wait isn't that long for me.

I guess the answer to your question is that Bit Torrent is great for people on dial up and who don't mind complicated things (or more complicated), but for people on broadband who only want a simple download, it's a big headache.

CR

FrogMan · 03-03-2005, 12:25 PM

this is a repost from my dynasty report concerning player changes due to the patch...

==================================
Okay, I've run some quick test over lunch and John Davies is indeed turning into quite a specimen

He is a 17yo D R that joined the team during the last offseason, and as I said, I was never all that impressed about his overall skills, until last night that is... Quickly scanning is skills, I can see that he gained 11 skill points by simply applying the patch. Methodology: I took a picture of my whole team just before saving the night before yesterday. I applied the patch before loading the game yesterday, then turned on FM2005 and loaded my game. First thing I did is take another picture of the whole team. By taking a picture, I mean saving to text the 7 important screens (general, mental, physical, technical, attacking, defensive, goalkeeping) and parsing them through excel (who would have thought, huh?

). With that, I can compare the picture of the whole team, player by player, from one picture to another.

So I compare the picture from pre-patch to post-patch (on January 10), remember that not even one day has passed after reloading the game post-patch. In his case, John Davies strikes me as a nice gainer at first, gaining 11 skill points overall, only because of the patch. They were all 1 point gain, since he's a full back, most useful gains came on crossing, marking, passing, tackling, anticipation, and positioning. All nice gains, especially since they can not be attributed to training.

Then I took another picture of the team on January 22, so 12 days after applying the patch. Now, WOW!!! Davies has now gained 38 skill points!!!

He got boosts of 3 in crossing, first touch, marking, tackling, technique, anticipation, concentration, and decisions. He also got boosts of 2 in heading (up to 16 now), passing, composure, creativity, and positioning... He definitely becomes a payer to keep in good check and could eventually have some playing time with the first squad...

Me love the patch

I'll try to find a way to report my findings, possibly in here. Just gotta find a way to post the 47 columns in the table in a way that it doesn't give everyone a headache

=======================

FM

Passacaglia · 03-03-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Ditto that.

I'm getting a good transfer rate from the one in the first post of this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...1/m/7362035011

I used this, no BitTorrent, no problem.

TazFTW · 03-03-2005, 02:35 PM

The WWSM patches are 22 and 67 MBs, why the difference in size when compared to the FM patches?

SirFozzie · 03-03-2005, 02:41 PM

when they release a "final" patch for a game, haven't they usually removed the copy protection (the must have CD in drive crap?) that could be it.

FrogMan · 03-03-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW

The WWSM patches are 22 and 67 MBs, why the difference in size when compared to the FM patches?

Reason why the FM patches are si big is because they included all the language packs in them. Maybe they don't need to include all the language packs in the WWSM patch, since it's supposedly destined to the North American market. Just a guess though, I have no inside information...

FM

illinifan999 · 03-04-2005, 06:51 AM

Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD?

Marc Vaughan · 03-04-2005, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illinifan999

Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD?

Did you install the correct patch for your game (ie. you didn't install the FM patch onto an American version of the game did you?).

03-02-2005, 09:01 AM	#2
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	sweet!!! I have a question about the patch though, hoping Marc Vaughan will read in here... If I plan on keeping on playing my current career (i.e. not restart), is there an advantage in downloading the data update right now, or should I only download the patch without the data update? I will probably download the whole thing, but I'm wondering if it'll do anything to my game if I download the patch with or without the data update. Reason why I plan to download the whole is that I will eventually start another game, I just want to keep on playing with my current career for a little while... Thanks in advance. FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

03-02-2005, 12:34 PM	#16
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	The Dugout usually rocks for downloading patches/demos/etc, two thumbs up! www.thedugout.net FM edit: damn clock bug. this is in fact a reply to scooter's post. Don't want it to look like I came up with the idea of downloading from the Dugout. Thanks for the scoop scooter! __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog... Last edited by FrogMan : 03-02-2005 at 12:35 PM.

03-02-2005, 02:30 PM	#20
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Ditto that. I'm getting a good transfer rate from the one in the first post of this thread: http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb...1/m/7362035011 Last edited by Desnudo : 03-02-2005 at 02:31 PM.

03-02-2005, 04:56 PM	#23
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Just got home from work, and very glad to see it is out. Thanks for the dugout link FM! Thanks to Marc and the crew for continuing to improve the game Edited: Just re-read the thread. Thanks Scooter for the heads up on the dugout site __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-02-2005 at 04:59 PM.

03-02-2005, 05:28 PM	#27
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	My guess is that it will be at least a few days before anyone can assess how MLS is now, unless they were a beta tester for the patch. I know I'll be at least a few days away from trying MLS (although I do look forward to giving it a spin with this patch.) __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-02-2005, 09:07 AM	#3
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	I'm pretty sure that the data update won't effect your current games. That data is already locked into the save game file.

03-02-2005, 09:33 AM	#4
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	The data updates doesn't affect save games. Never has.

03-02-2005, 09:40 AM	#5
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Awesome. Just wondering how much porn I'll have to delete to be able to get the 84mB on my computer.

03-02-2005, 10:24 AM	#10
SlapBone High School JV Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston, Texas	Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM? The .exe is exactly the same.

03-02-2005, 12:36 PM	#17
scooter High School Varsity Join Date: May 2004 Location: Camano Island, WA	For those that don't want to mess with BitTorrent (hand raised), The Dugout has both FM 5.0.3 patches posted over there on their website (w/ data and w/out). Download speed was decent too.

03-02-2005, 04:51 PM	#22
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	crap i just installed the patch and everything is now in a different language

03-02-2005, 05:08 PM	#25
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	yeah i got it just took a bunch of clicking to figure it out

03-02-2005, 05:23 PM	#26
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	for people that have the game. how is the MLS league now with new patch?

03-02-2005, 05:34 PM	#28
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I am loading up a MLS league as we speak. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-02-2005, 05:35 PM	#29
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	I was thinking of doing a holiday test before I leave for class tonight and running it for a few years on just an MLS league to see how the regens turn out and if the league doesn't get screwed up. __________________ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

03-02-2005, 05:40 PM	#30
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	My bad. I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys, as I really want to have a serious MLS dynasty at some point. I also had the language problem. For those experiencing it, click on the only lit up link on the top of the opening page. Then, click on the 4th option that is lit up (counting from the top.) Then, click on the top option that is lit up and choose the language of your choice. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-02-2005 at 05:41 PM.

03-02-2005, 05:42 PM	#31
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	thanks I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys with the latest patch.

03-02-2005, 11:34 PM	#33
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Amazing. This always happens with SIGames patches. Stop using BITTORRENT!! (and make regular download options easier to find). If someone can just post a straight download straight into this thread, I would really, really appreciate it. I go to the Dugout, and I only find Bit Torrent. I go to SIGames mirror sites that are supposedly for straight downloads, and I get one that is actually a Bit Torrent link, a second (in German too, I think) that I can't get my popup blocker to allow (and, no, I can't seem to get ym blocker to ignore it), and a third that leads to a dead link. Crap, it's almost like they want to hide a regular link. CR __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-02-2005, 11:34 PM	#34
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I can send you the .exe file over AIM. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-03-2005, 12:01 AM	#36
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	It's now tomorrow... where is that WWSM patch! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-03-2005, 12:10 AM	#37
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Thank you, vyshka. I actually checked that (The Dugout's download section), but had problems with my blocker there, too. I played around with things a bit and finally got it to download the file. Thanks for the offer, GE. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-03-2005, 01:14 AM	#38
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

03-03-2005, 01:29 AM	#40
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, I think the only changes are minor text things. I don't notice anything wierd with WWSM, in terms of how things are refered. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-03-2005, 01:36 AM	#41
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I'm waiting patiently for the WSM patch. I'll probably restart my career since I had activated too many leagues, and it was just taking too long to process anything for my liking. I still managed to get through nearly two seasons, though. What's with the aversion to BitTorrent? Since the WSM patch isn't out yet, I haven't tried BitTorrent for this particular file, but are there too few seeds or something? I would think that BT would be absolutely perfect for a file with such demand. Isn't that the point of BT in the first place? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

03-03-2005, 08:45 AM	#43
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	The aversion to Bit Torrent is more a personal thing with me, Pumpy (although I wouldn't be surprised if there are others). It just seems very complicated. I always have a lot of problems when I try to download a file using Bit Torrent. It's not really an intuitive program. Meanwhile, a straight download is a very simple process to handle, and I have cable, so the wait isn't that long for me. I guess the answer to your question is that Bit Torrent is great for people on dial up and who don't mind complicated things (or more complicated), but for people on broadband who only want a simple download, it's a big headache. CR __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-03-2005, 12:25 PM	#44
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	this is a repost from my dynasty report concerning player changes due to the patch... ================================== Okay, I've run some quick test over lunch and John Davies is indeed turning into quite a specimen He is a 17yo D R that joined the team during the last offseason, and as I said, I was never all that impressed about his overall skills, until last night that is... Quickly scanning is skills, I can see that he gained 11 skill points by simply applying the patch. Methodology: I took a picture of my whole team just before saving the night before yesterday. I applied the patch before loading the game yesterday, then turned on FM2005 and loaded my game. First thing I did is take another picture of the whole team. By taking a picture, I mean saving to text the 7 important screens (general, mental, physical, technical, attacking, defensive, goalkeeping) and parsing them through excel (who would have thought, huh? ). With that, I can compare the picture of the whole team, player by player, from one picture to another. So I compare the picture from pre-patch to post-patch (on January 10), remember that not even one day has passed after reloading the game post-patch. In his case, John Davies strikes me as a nice gainer at first, gaining 11 skill points overall, only because of the patch. They were all 1 point gain, since he's a full back, most useful gains came on crossing, marking, passing, tackling, anticipation, and positioning. All nice gains, especially since they can not be attributed to training. Then I took another picture of the team on January 22, so 12 days after applying the patch. Now, WOW!!! Davies has now gained 38 skill points!!! He got boosts of 3 in crossing, first touch, marking, tackling, technique, anticipation, concentration, and decisions. He also got boosts of 2 in heading (up to 16 now), passing, composure, creativity, and positioning... He definitely becomes a payer to keep in good check and could eventually have some playing time with the first squad... Me love the patch I'll try to find a way to report my findings, possibly in here. Just gotta find a way to post the 47 columns in the table in a way that it doesn't give everyone a headache ======================= FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

03-03-2005, 02:35 PM	#46
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The WWSM patches are 22 and 67 MBs, why the difference in size when compared to the FM patches?

03-03-2005, 02:41 PM	#47
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	when they release a "final" patch for a game, haven't they usually removed the copy protection (the must have CD in drive crap?) that could be it. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-04-2005, 06:51 AM	#49
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

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