March Madness Begins

tdydynasty · 03-05-2005, 11:34 AM

Big South Final on right now on ESPN2. Charleston Southern vs.Winthrop.

sooner333 · 03-05-2005, 11:42 AM

I can never tell who I am rooting for in this situation in the Big South game. On one hand, like most people, I am a sucker for the upsets. In that case, the 7 seed, Charleston Southern is the logical choice. But, on the other hand, it's nice to reward good seasons, and Winthrop certainly has had one rolling through the regular season with 5 losses and only 1 in conference play. But, it's fun to watch these games for sure as so much is on the line.

In fact, I may drive up to Tulsa tonight to watch some Mid-Con action in the quarterfinals. They are playing their tourney in a high school gym for Tulsa Union. However, this gym is a 15-million dollar project that has a video scoreboard and chairbacks for all 5,600 seats. I'm kind of just interested in this high school arena.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 11:48 AM

I'll catch as much action as I can and root for all the mid-major favorites (Except Nevada) to win. If the Miners don't win the WAC tournament and there are a number of upsets of mid-majors that are considered "locks", then we'll likely be hosting an NIT game...

VPI97 · 03-05-2005, 12:09 PM

Outside of the ACC & Big East, I don't find college basketball all that compelling.

panerd · 03-05-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

Outside of the ACC & Big East, I don't find college basketball all that compelling.

You couldn't have said the exact opposite of how I feel much better. I don't know why I feel this way, maybe ESPN, maybe some jealosy, but there is certainly tons of quality basketball west of New York City.

sooner333 · 03-05-2005, 01:02 PM

NCAA bid for Winthrop and they join Pennsylvania as the only two teams officially in the dance.

Pumpy Tudors · 03-05-2005, 01:04 PM

It's all about UNO, baby! The Privateers take on Western Kentucky in early-round Sun Belt Conference action tomorrow night. We're going all the waaaaaaay to hell.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 01:08 PM

Sun Belt tournament is in Denton this year, right Pumpy? If I get some free time I might have to head up there and check out some games...

MJ4H · 03-05-2005, 01:16 PM

Right now I am watching a cooking show. I was planning to watch the Arkansas Auburn game, but instead, I am being shown a cooking show. Can anyone explain this to me?

P.S. I am on the correct channel.

sooner333 · 03-05-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

Right now I am watching a cooking show. I was planning to watch the Arkansas Auburn game, but instead, I am being shown a cooking show. Can anyone explain this to me?

P.S. I am on the correct channel.

We're getting the game in OKC. Arkansas up 18-13 with 10:35 left in the first half.

Cringer · 03-05-2005, 01:31 PM

I guess the correct choice for me was what I picked, As many as possible. That is probably 0 though.

LloydLungs · 03-05-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

It's all about UNO, baby! The Privateers take on Western Kentucky in early-round Sun Belt Conference action tomorrow night. We're going all the waaaaaaay to hell.

I'm pretty disillusioned with the Privateer program at the moment but three more wins this year would help a lot with that. If McCalebb's ankles have healed up over the last week....

Regarding the question at large, I watch every college basketball game I possibly can in March. Right now I'm flipping channels among all the ESPN Full Court games and the UCF-Gardner Webb A-Sun Championship, watching the Sun Belt WOMEN'S quarterfinals live on the internet, and playing Fast Break College Basketball for good measure.

And this isn't even my favorite SPORT. I prefer baseball. But March is still the best sports month of the year.

korme · 03-05-2005, 01:51 PM

Wright State is officially eliminated, no March Madness for you fellas.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Wright State is officially eliminated, no March Madness for you fellas.

Time to start rooting full time for the Miners, Shortstuff...

tdydynasty · 03-05-2005, 02:09 PM

Conference tournament meant so much more in the old days when only 1 per conference could get in. NC State beat Maryland in the 1974 ACC Finals in Double OT which is considered the greatest game in ACC history. NC State went on to win the NCAA title beating UCLA in the semifinals in Double OT and Marquette in the final.

korme · 03-05-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Time to start rooting full time for the Miners, Shortstuff...

It's funny but I do have a small interest in UTEP's success now, for instance last season I was rooting for them pretty strongly. My roomate and I are running a joint dynasty in NCAA football, he is Boise State, me? UTEP.

Team's so bad.

Anyways, I will be rooting for UTEP of course, but my heart will always pull for the hopeless Bearcats.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 02:12 PM

Uh...I don't think it ever was just one team per conference in the Dance. At least not that I've ever heard about...

MJ4H · 03-05-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sooner333

We're getting the game in OKC. Arkansas up 18-13 with 10:35 left in the first half.

OK now I wish it would go back to the cooking show

VPI97 · 03-05-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Uh...I don't think it ever was just one team per conference in the Dance. At least not that I've ever heard about...

Yeah it was...prior to the '75 tournament, only conference champions were invited. That '74 ACC Championship was the game that made them change the rules.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 03:09 PM

Really? I wonder why I've never hard about that?

Thanks for the info, guys...

korme · 03-05-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Really? I wonder why I'm never hard about that?

Thanks for the info, guys...

There is a cure for ED Jeeb.

VPI97 · 03-05-2005, 04:01 PM

Maryland fans: What's the deal with this Gilchrist guy? It's one thing to jaw with the crowd...it's another thing to jaw with the crowd while letting your man score at will, turning the ball over repeatedly and having your team trail the entire first half.

Wolfpack · 03-05-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

Maryland fans: What's the deal with this Gilchrist guy? It's one thing to jaw with the crowd...it's another thing to jaw with the crowd while letting your man score at will, turning the ball over repeatedly and having your team trail the entire first half.

You want a reason for Maryland's lack of consistency? There's your answer. He had that one spectacular run in the ACC tournament last year and was thus annointed as "The Next Big Thing" in College Park. Obviously, the burdens of being the star haven't been kind.

VT pulled the upset off, so the middle of the ACC is going to turn into an absolute train wreck in terms of who's getting in. GT probably got in finally by beating Clemson today. Among the remaining teams, it could very well come down to who goes furtherest in the ACC tournament next weekend.

I'd say Miami and VT still have the most work cut out (meaning, perhaps needing to reach the conference final). Miami at 7-9 in the ACC and a VT team at 15-12 overall (even though they are 8-8 if they win, that VMI loss is devastating) does not inspire the selection committee.

Maryland is squarely on the bubble now because they've pretty much destroyed the collateral with the sweeping of Duke by getting swept by Clemson and then stumbling badly down the stretch and getting beat in a must-win game in Blacksburg.

NC State is 17-11 and has one last chance to make a statement against Wake at home tomorrow. Win that, and I think they get in at 8-8. Lose and they'll need at least one if not two wins to go to the NCAAs. It doesn't matter much to many Wolfpack fans, some of whom hate the coach more than love the program and practically die a little everytime we win right now, knowing the coach will be retained. I can't tell you some of the most assinine things I've read on the Wolfpack boards, bordering on black-helicopter-level lunacy as to how far they think the people in charge are going to retain the coach. I don't love the coach myself and the division he has caused by his middling success makes me think he ought to move on for everybody's sake, but the behavior of some of the other "fans" disgusts me to no end right now. (Sorry for the rant, but I was just at the other board and I need to vent a little.)

Pumpy Tudors · 03-05-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs

I'm pretty disillusioned with the Privateer program at the moment but three more wins this year would help a lot with that. If McCalebb's ankles have healed up over the last week....

Yep, we definitely need Bo to be full strength for the tournament. I hope UNO gets to the conference final again, because I think the entire country deserves a chance to see the #5 scorer in the nation. It's really amazing what this kid has done. I know that he's playing in a small conference, but he's really been carrying the team for the past two years. It's nice to see a local kid go to UNO and excel. The Privateers should be so much better next year, considering that all these kids will have another year of experience, and they're ALL coming back. No seniors on the UNO team this year means ultimate cohesion next year, along with one of the top scorers in the country.

VPI97 · 03-05-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I'd say Miami and VT still have the most work cut out (meaning, perhaps needing to reach the conference final). Miami at 7-9 in the ACC and a VT team at 15-12 overall (even though they are 8-8 if they win, that VMI loss is devastating) does not inspire the selection committee.

In terms of byes and whatnot, how is the ACC tournament working this year? If NC State loses, I think we'd be the #4 seed in the conference due to being 1-0 head to head over GT.

Also, at this point, a part of me hopes we don't go to the NCAA, but to the NIT instead. When I was in school (Metro/A-10 years), we had a decent basketball team...made the NCAA's twice, but won the NIT in '95. The NIT run was far more satisfying for me (and the rest of campus) and that year's team attained cult status among VT fans. I'd much rather see that kind of post-season than a one or two game stretch in the NCAA's.

FBPro · 03-05-2005, 06:50 PM

I might have watched one entire basketball game if you combine all the time I've spent watching hoops the last 2 or 3 years.......but you better add in the sportcenter highlights as well just to make sure. Needless to say, not a hoops fan.

Wolfpack · 03-05-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

In terms of byes and whatnot, how is the ACC tournament working this year? If NC State loses, I think we'd be the #4 seed in the conference due to being 1-0 head to head over GT.

Also, at this point, a part of me hopes we don't go to the NCAA, but to the NIT instead. When I was in school (Metro/A-10 years), we had a decent basketball team...made the NCAA's twice, but won the NIT in '95. The NIT run was far more satisfying for me (and the rest of campus) and that year's team attained cult status among VT fans. I'd much rather see that kind of post-season than a one or two game stretch in the NCAA's.

Top 5 get byes to Friday. Thursday is 8-9 (to play #1 Friday), 7-10 (to play #2), 6-11 (to play #3). Here's the picture as of now:

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UNC	13-2
WF	12-3
Duke	11-4
GT	8-8
VT	8-8
NCSU	7-8
Miami	7-9
UMd	7-9*
Clem	5-11
UVa	4-11
FSU	3-12
*Maryland is #8 regardless of outcomes tomorrow

Duke-UNC, State-Wake, and FSU-UVa are on tap tomorrow.
*UNC wins, they are #1. If they lose, they will still be #1 if State wins.
*If Wake wins and UNC loses, they will be #1 (head-to-head over UNC), otherwise, they will be #2. If Wake loses and Duke wins, they will fall to #3 (Duke would be 2-0 vs. UNC, Wake 1-0).
*Duke wins, they would be #2 if Wake loses, otherwise they will be #3.
*State wins, they will be #4 (3-1 vs. VT and GT). If they lose, they slide to #7 (2-1 vs. Miami and UMd, but Miami would be 2-0 vs. State and UMd).
*VT is in the 4-5 game no matter what. If State wins, they go to #5 (2-1 vs. State and GT), else they're #4 (1-0 vs. GT).
*GT is #5 if State loses (0-1 vs. VT) or #6 if State wins (0-3 vs. State and VT).
*Miami is #6 if State loses (2-0 vs. State and UMd) or #7 if State wins (1-0 vs. UMd)
*As noted, Maryland is #8 no matter what happens tomorrow.
*Clemson is #9 if UVa loses to FSU or #10 if UVa wins (0-1 vs. UVa)
*Virginia is #9 if they beat FSU, #11 if they lose (FSU is 1-1 vs. Wake, UVa 0-2--both teams lost all their games against Duke and UNC, so no tiebreaker until Wake regardless of how the top three finish).
*FSU is #10 if UVa loses (for reasons noted) and #11 if they win.

That should cover all the outcomes. Essentially, VT is playing the 2:30 game Friday in DC against either State or GT depeding on the State-Wake outcome tomorrow. Thus, VT is the only team besides Duke, Wake, and UNC guaranteed to be bye'd into the quarterfinals and one of two teams (Maryland being the other) who know what time their first game in the tournament will be. Congrats on a great first year.

Radii · 03-06-2005, 11:59 AM

Thanks for the scenarios there Wolfpack. The thought of UNC-Maryland on Friday is kinda scary, no matter how poorly Maryland has played lately. So,go Clemson/Virginia

Chief Rum · 03-06-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

NC State is 17-11 and has one last chance to make a statement against Wake at home tomorrow. Win that, and I think they get in at 8-8. Lose and they'll need at least one if not two wins to go to the NCAAs. It doesn't matter much to many Wolfpack fans, some of whom hate the coach more than love the program and practically die a little everytime we win right now, knowing the coach will be retained. I can't tell you some of the most assinine things I've read on the Wolfpack boards, bordering on black-helicopter-level lunacy as to how far they think the people in charge are going to retain the coach. I don't love the coach myself and the division he has caused by his middling success makes me think he ought to move on for everybody's sake, but the behavior of some of the other "fans" disgusts me to no end right now. (Sorry for the rant, but I was just at the other board and I need to vent a little.)

Sounds familiar. That's essentially the attitude that was being expressed in the last two years of Steve Lavin at UCLA. Like you, I was disgusted by the attitude of not really wanting the team to win, but, man, I so love that Lavin is gone.

sooner333 · 03-06-2005, 04:58 PM

OU just clinched the #1 seed in the Big 12 tournament with the KU loss to Missouri, as OU holds the tiebreak over the Jayhawks.

Radii · 03-06-2005, 05:52 PM

Who the hell gets the 4th #1 seed? BC/Kansas/Oklahoma State/Kentucky all continue to play their way out of them over and over. I'm an ACC homer but if Duke makes the ACC finals do they get it??

Airhog · 03-06-2005, 06:24 PM

I may be biased here, but If OU can make the finals of the tournament, they have a good shot at getting the #2 or #3 seed. If they win out, there is a slim chance at a #1 seed, but im not sure if they really have a high enough ranking in the polls to deserve the #1, even though they did beat Kansas at home, and went 1-1 with OSU. and Beat Conneticut at home.

sooner333 · 03-06-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Airhog

I may be biased here, but If OU can make the finals of the tournament, they have a good shot at getting the #2 or #3 seed. If they win out, there is a slim chance at a #1 seed, but im not sure if they really have a high enough ranking in the polls to deserve the #1, even though they did beat Kansas at home, and went 1-1 with OSU. and Beat Conneticut at home.

OU will not get a #1 seed, nor do we deserve it. However, I can see a case for a #2 if we win the Big 12 tourney, and at least a #3 and a trip up I-35 to OKC if we can get to the finals (with the team we face also in OKC, and the other one sent out to Indy or Tuscon). However, being conference champs with the 1 seed REALLY helps our chances at getting into OKC over OSU, and still helping, but a bit less so over Kansas.

Ragone · 03-06-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Who the hell gets the 4th #1 seed? BC/Kansas/Oklahoma State/Kentucky all continue to play their way out of them over and over. I'm an ACC homer but if Duke makes the ACC finals do they get it??

Louisville certainly has played themselves into a shot at the #1.. but i think thats going to require a Duke choke job in the acc tourney

sterlingice · 03-06-2005, 07:28 PM

Let's see what's up with Langford's injury. If it's serious, someone's going to get that #2 seed that we pretty much have claim to right now. If it's not and we go out and beat Okie State and Oklahoma in the Big XII tourney then we've played our way back into a #1 if we get some help.

That said, I'm cringing at the prospects of KU's matchups for the big dance. I don't really care about a #1 and really *don't* want a #1. The weak #1 seed right now will go to whoever gets a 1 and isn't named Illinois, UNC, or ... ? (Wake? BC? Duke, anyways, because they're Duke?) And almost always that weak #1 seed gets a brutal bracket. That's where they'll send, say, a pissed off at being snubbed #2 like Kentucky, some #3 who should have been a #2, and some other land mines like Pacific and SIU who are seeded too low.

Inevitably, we'll end up as the #2 or #3 seed in the Illinois or North Carolina bracket because the tourney committee, in their infinite "cuteness" will want to have one of those "coach versus former team" matchups. And I'd rather not see us have to face the best team in the country (still Illinois) or a bunch of our players against the coach who left them and the most talented team in the country- that's a lot of baggage for those guys on top of the pressure of an E8 game.

Oh well, if Langford is out or really gimpy for the tourney, they might as well give us a 4 or 5 and ship us to some bracket where Utah or some other cinderella can put us out of our misery.

SI

sooner333 · 03-06-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Let's see what's up with Langford's injury. If it's serious, someone's going to get that #2 seed that we pretty much have claim to right now. If it's not and we go out and beat Okie State and Oklahoma in the Big XII tourney then we've played our way back into a #1 if we get some help.

Remember: The Big 12 Championship game means very little as for seeding. Basically it's all done before the game and it's pretty much too hard to change it based on what happens. For that reason, I think it will be really, really hard for KU to play back into a 1 seed. I think it would be hard for OU to play to a 2 seed for the same reason. However, I think getting there, for both teams, will solidify a 2 seed for KU, a 3 seed for OU, and a 3 seed in Tuscon or Indy for Oklahoma State.

Of course...they could send KU somewhere else to sell tickets because the OKC sub-regional is already sold out. Then again, they wouldn't do that because OU and OSU in OKC would be death to the hotels. I hate how the politics really does take effect in the pod system. I'd really rather whoever wins the Big 12 championship get the OKC sub-regional with the pods and the other teams sent elsewhere. Plus, when you actually go to the games (like I did in OKC two years ago and KC last year), you end up seeing 2 teams from the same conference a bunch, which sucks.

Karlifornia · 03-06-2005, 07:46 PM

Stanford's in with their win over Washington. What a fun game to be at. Nick Robinson's senior night, must-win situation, facing a real quality opponent, etc.. I wonder if UCLA will get in....I guess it depends on how they do in the conference tourney.

MrBug708 · 03-06-2005, 07:47 PM

UCLA's more of a lock then Stanford is. You've just happened to beat us twice is all...

Ragone · 03-06-2005, 09:08 PM

so #2 unc beats #6 duke.. and the fans rush the court?

talk about class

Pumpy Tudors · 03-06-2005, 09:25 PM

UNO is out. Screw college basketball.

(I'll be watching the NCAA tournament anyway)

Ragone · 03-06-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

UNO is out. Screw college basketball.

(I'll be watching the NCAA tournament anyway)

Uno is never out

Wolfpack · 03-06-2005, 09:44 PM

Chris Paul can jump up my ass....
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Along with the entire State team for not making free throws, Engin Atsur for the brain-dead-stupid three, the refs for deciding he MEANT to line drive that three into the sideline rather than got hacked on the arm, and Sendek for drawing up such a shitty out-of-bounds defense that allowed Paul to race downfloor virtually unopposed at the end.

And Chris Paul a second time for that cheap shot to Hodge early in the ball game. And the refs again for no-calling it.

ARGH!

Ragone · 03-06-2005, 09:48 PM

what did you expect? the acc was protecting its 2nd #1 seed

sterlingice · 03-06-2005, 10:06 PM

Sorry, Wolfpack, but you're going to get screwed if the game stays this close because you know the refs are going to start getting whistle happy to help Wake even though it's at your house.

SI

sterlingice · 03-06-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sooner333

Remember: The Big 12 Championship game means very little as for seeding. Basically it's all done before the game and it's pretty much too hard to change it based on what happens. For that reason, I think it will be really, really hard for KU to play back into a 1 seed. I think it would be hard for OU to play to a 2 seed for the same reason. However, I think getting there, for both teams, will solidify a 2 seed for KU, a 3 seed for OU, and a 3 seed in Tuscon or Indy for Oklahoma State.

Oh yeah, I remember. Happens every year- whoever wins the Big XII tourney seems to get the short end of the stick and not really credited with that last win and the announcers always spin it that the tourney people didn't get to take that game into consideration. Strange because the ACC and SEC always seem to get credit for that win that they get.

SI

Wolfpack · 03-06-2005, 10:18 PM

I'm perfectly aware that the refs do such things. We live in the shadow of Duke and UNC, two of the biggest beneficiaries of referee dick(vitale)sucking in the nation. I have come to loathe the officiating in this league along with everyone who doesn't root for Duke or UNC. It's been bad for years and years. There is a reason that the announcers always talk about Duke or UNC being able to make more free throws than their opponents take.

At any rate, we should never have been in that situation, but we sucked it up badly on the free throw line and then brain-farted on our last possession.

In all reality, I wasn't actually surprised. When Bethel clanged his first free throw, I knew bad things were coming. This team under this coach is just snakebit. When Paul hit that shot, I let out a disgusted sigh but that was it. It's not a full-bore rage or anything (we've suffered too many of these kinds of losses in the last five years, so the burning hate of such things is long since gone), but it still hurts. We now get to play Florida State Thursday for a chance at revenge against Wake on Friday. I'm not hopeful.

ntndeacon · 03-06-2005, 10:34 PM

Wake did not deserve to win this game for sure. NCSt played a heck of a game. I do not look forward to a rematch with them on Friday. (I am kinda assuming a victory vs the Seminoles.) And I am ticked off that the ONE time I root for Duke, they can't handle the pressure and GIve away the game vs UNC.(and give away a possible number one seed for Wake)

JeeberD · 03-07-2005, 08:44 AM

Ugh, I don't like UTEP's bracket in the WAC tournament. Our first game will be Thursday afternoon against the winner of the Rice-SJSU game. Rice is likely to beat SJSU, and while we've played them well this year (blew them out at our place and eeked out a win at their home...a place we never play well) they've played below their talent level all season long. If they put it together now they could give us some trouble.

If/when we beat Rice we would have to face the winner of the Fresno-SMU game. Fresno beat us earlier in the season at their place, but we handed it to them at home just a couple of weeks ago. I would feel fairly confident going into that match-up. SMU has played us very well this season, making us work hard to win both games against them this year. They have a big white galoot at center who seems to go off on us for some reason, and they have a young, speedy PG who gives us fits.

If/when win our semifinal match-up we would most likely get to face #1 seed and tournament host Nevada. Both games we've played against them this year have come down to the wire with us winning in Reno in overtime and them winning in El Paso when we missed a shot to tie at the buzzer. It should be a great game no matter what happens, and hopefully both teams make it into the dance regardless of the outcome (well, Nevada pretty much had a bid wrapped up even if they lose while we need at least a couple of tournament wins to get an at-large bid).

Go Miners!

Radii · 03-07-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

so #2 unc beats #6 duke.. and the fans rush the court?

talk about class

100% agree. The second I saw it I said "ugh. Classless." and Oliegirl asked why, and I told her that "UNC is #2 in the nation. You rush the court if you're unranked and you upset the #1 team. There is *never* a game(outside of the ACC and NCAA championship games) so big that UNC fans should rush the court. Ever."

Though really i don't think it says as much about UNC fans, it seems just an extension of the weird tearing down the goal posts thing every time you beat a top 25 team thing that seems to be going around in football.

Wolfpack · 03-07-2005, 09:28 AM

I think that etiquette (not rushing unless you're unranked) has been retired. Basically, if your team pulls off a win when they were seemingly (a miracle comeback) or supposedly (never supposed to be in the game) going to lose, you get the right to rush the floor or tear down the goalposts. Another influence probably is TV. It's a way to get you and your school on SportsCenter.

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JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Uh...I don't think it ever was just one team per conference in the Dance. At least not that I've ever heard about... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-05-2005, 03:09 PM	#20
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Really? I wonder why I've never hard about that? Thanks for the info, guys... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-05-2005, 04:01 PM	#22
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Maryland fans: What's the deal with this Gilchrist guy? It's one thing to jaw with the crowd...it's another thing to jaw with the crowd while letting your man score at will, turning the ball over repeatedly and having your team trail the entire first half. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

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FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	I might have watched one entire basketball game if you combine all the time I've spent watching hoops the last 2 or 3 years.......but you better add in the sportcenter highlights as well just to make sure. Needless to say, not a hoops fan. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

03-05-2005, 11:42 AM	#2
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	I can never tell who I am rooting for in this situation in the Big South game. On one hand, like most people, I am a sucker for the upsets. In that case, the 7 seed, Charleston Southern is the logical choice. But, on the other hand, it's nice to reward good seasons, and Winthrop certainly has had one rolling through the regular season with 5 losses and only 1 in conference play. But, it's fun to watch these games for sure as so much is on the line. In fact, I may drive up to Tulsa tonight to watch some Mid-Con action in the quarterfinals. They are playing their tourney in a high school gym for Tulsa Union. However, this gym is a 15-million dollar project that has a video scoreboard and chairbacks for all 5,600 seats. I'm kind of just interested in this high school arena.

03-05-2005, 11:48 AM	#3
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'll catch as much action as I can and root for all the mid-major favorites (Except Nevada) to win. If the Miners don't win the WAC tournament and there are a number of upsets of mid-majors that are considered "locks", then we'll likely be hosting an NIT game... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-05-2005, 12:09 PM	#4
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Outside of the ACC & Big East, I don't find college basketball all that compelling. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

03-05-2005, 01:02 PM	#6
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	NCAA bid for Winthrop and they join Pennsylvania as the only two teams officially in the dance.

03-05-2005, 01:04 PM	#7
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	It's all about UNO, baby! The Privateers take on Western Kentucky in early-round Sun Belt Conference action tomorrow night. We're going all the waaaaaaay to hell. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

03-05-2005, 01:08 PM	#8
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Sun Belt tournament is in Denton this year, right Pumpy? If I get some free time I might have to head up there and check out some games... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO Last edited by JeeberD : 03-05-2005 at 01:09 PM.

03-05-2005, 01:16 PM	#9
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Right now I am watching a cooking show. I was planning to watch the Arkansas Auburn game, but instead, I am being shown a cooking show. Can anyone explain this to me? P.S. I am on the correct channel.

03-05-2005, 01:31 PM	#11
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I guess the correct choice for me was what I picked, As many as possible. That is probably 0 though. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-05-2005, 01:51 PM	#13
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Wright State is officially eliminated, no March Madness for you fellas.

03-05-2005, 02:09 PM	#15
tdydynasty Banned Join Date: Aug 2002	Conference tournament meant so much more in the old days when only 1 per conference could get in. NC State beat Maryland in the 1974 ACC Finals in Double OT which is considered the greatest game in ACC history. NC State went on to win the NCAA title beating UCLA in the semifinals in Double OT and Marquette in the final.

03-06-2005, 11:59 AM	#28
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Thanks for the scenarios there Wolfpack. The thought of UNC-Maryland on Friday is kinda scary, no matter how poorly Maryland has played lately. So,go Clemson/Virginia

03-06-2005, 04:58 PM	#30
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	OU just clinched the #1 seed in the Big 12 tournament with the KU loss to Missouri, as OU holds the tiebreak over the Jayhawks.

03-06-2005, 05:52 PM	#31
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Who the hell gets the 4th #1 seed? BC/Kansas/Oklahoma State/Kentucky all continue to play their way out of them over and over. I'm an ACC homer but if Duke makes the ACC finals do they get it??

03-06-2005, 06:24 PM	#32
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	I may be biased here, but If OU can make the finals of the tournament, they have a good shot at getting the #2 or #3 seed. If they win out, there is a slim chance at a #1 seed, but im not sure if they really have a high enough ranking in the polls to deserve the #1, even though they did beat Kansas at home, and went 1-1 with OSU. and Beat Conneticut at home. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-06-2005, 07:28 PM	#35
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Let's see what's up with Langford's injury. If it's serious, someone's going to get that #2 seed that we pretty much have claim to right now. If it's not and we go out and beat Okie State and Oklahoma in the Big XII tourney then we've played our way back into a #1 if we get some help. That said, I'm cringing at the prospects of KU's matchups for the big dance. I don't really care about a #1 and really don't want a #1. The weak #1 seed right now will go to whoever gets a 1 and isn't named Illinois, UNC, or ... ? (Wake? BC? Duke, anyways, because they're Duke?) And almost always that weak #1 seed gets a brutal bracket. That's where they'll send, say, a pissed off at being snubbed #2 like Kentucky, some #3 who should have been a #2, and some other land mines like Pacific and SIU who are seeded too low. Inevitably, we'll end up as the #2 or #3 seed in the Illinois or North Carolina bracket because the tourney committee, in their infinite "cuteness" will want to have one of those "coach versus former team" matchups. And I'd rather not see us have to face the best team in the country (still Illinois) or a bunch of our players against the coach who left them and the most talented team in the country- that's a lot of baggage for those guys on top of the pressure of an E8 game. Oh well, if Langford is out or really gimpy for the tourney, they might as well give us a 4 or 5 and ship us to some bracket where Utah or some other cinderella can put us out of our misery. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-06-2005, 07:46 PM	#37
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Stanford's in with their win over Washington. What a fun game to be at. Nick Robinson's senior night, must-win situation, facing a real quality opponent, etc.. I wonder if UCLA will get in....I guess it depends on how they do in the conference tourney. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-06-2005, 07:47 PM	#38
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	UCLA's more of a lock then Stanford is. You've just happened to beat us twice is all...

03-06-2005, 09:08 PM	#39
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	so #2 unc beats #6 duke.. and the fans rush the court? talk about class

03-06-2005, 09:25 PM	#40
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	UNO is out. Screw college basketball. (I'll be watching the NCAA tournament anyway) __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

03-06-2005, 09:44 PM	#42
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Chris Paul can jump up my ass.... . . . . . . . . Along with the entire State team for not making free throws, Engin Atsur for the brain-dead-stupid three, the refs for deciding he MEANT to line drive that three into the sideline rather than got hacked on the arm, and Sendek for drawing up such a shitty out-of-bounds defense that allowed Paul to race downfloor virtually unopposed at the end. And Chris Paul a second time for that cheap shot to Hodge early in the ball game. And the refs again for no-calling it. ARGH! Last edited by Wolfpack : 03-06-2005 at 09:45 PM.

03-06-2005, 09:48 PM	#43
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	what did you expect? the acc was protecting its 2nd #1 seed

03-06-2005, 10:06 PM	#44
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Sorry, Wolfpack, but you're going to get screwed if the game stays this close because you know the refs are going to start getting whistle happy to help Wake even though it's at your house. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-06-2005, 10:18 PM	#46
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	I'm perfectly aware that the refs do such things. We live in the shadow of Duke and UNC, two of the biggest beneficiaries of referee dick(vitale)sucking in the nation. I have come to loathe the officiating in this league along with everyone who doesn't root for Duke or UNC. It's been bad for years and years. There is a reason that the announcers always talk about Duke or UNC being able to make more free throws than their opponents take. At any rate, we should never have been in that situation, but we sucked it up badly on the free throw line and then brain-farted on our last possession. In all reality, I wasn't actually surprised. When Bethel clanged his first free throw, I knew bad things were coming. This team under this coach is just snakebit. When Paul hit that shot, I let out a disgusted sigh but that was it. It's not a full-bore rage or anything (we've suffered too many of these kinds of losses in the last five years, so the burning hate of such things is long since gone), but it still hurts. We now get to play Florida State Thursday for a chance at revenge against Wake on Friday. I'm not hopeful. Last edited by Wolfpack : 03-06-2005 at 10:19 PM.

03-06-2005, 10:34 PM	#47
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Wake did not deserve to win this game for sure. NCSt played a heck of a game. I do not look forward to a rematch with them on Friday. (I am kinda assuming a victory vs the Seminoles.) And I am ticked off that the ONE time I root for Duke, they can't handle the pressure and GIve away the game vs UNC.(and give away a possible number one seed for Wake)

03-07-2005, 08:44 AM	#48
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Ugh, I don't like UTEP's bracket in the WAC tournament. Our first game will be Thursday afternoon against the winner of the Rice-SJSU game. Rice is likely to beat SJSU, and while we've played them well this year (blew them out at our place and eeked out a win at their home...a place we never play well) they've played below their talent level all season long. If they put it together now they could give us some trouble. If/when we beat Rice we would have to face the winner of the Fresno-SMU game. Fresno beat us earlier in the season at their place, but we handed it to them at home just a couple of weeks ago. I would feel fairly confident going into that match-up. SMU has played us very well this season, making us work hard to win both games against them this year. They have a big white galoot at center who seems to go off on us for some reason, and they have a young, speedy PG who gives us fits. If/when win our semifinal match-up we would most likely get to face #1 seed and tournament host Nevada. Both games we've played against them this year have come down to the wire with us winning in Reno in overtime and them winning in El Paso when we missed a shot to tie at the buzzer. It should be a great game no matter what happens, and hopefully both teams make it into the dance regardless of the outcome (well, Nevada pretty much had a bid wrapped up even if they lose while we need at least a couple of tournament wins to get an at-large bid). Go Miners! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-07-2005, 09:28 AM	#50
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	I think that etiquette (not rushing unless you're unranked) has been retired. Basically, if your team pulls off a win when they were seemingly (a miracle comeback) or supposedly (never supposed to be in the game) going to lose, you get the right to rush the floor or tear down the goalposts. Another influence probably is TV. It's a way to get you and your school on SportsCenter.

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