Resume check for ex-military?

Galaril · 03-30-2005, 09:04 PM

I got a question for any people who do the hiring in there jobs placesor are in the know of this. I am leaving my job at the end of may to relocate back to the US and am helping my place find a replacement. My question we are trying to check on a couple of peoples resume past job exeprience with the military. Is it legal or possible to check on a person's job in th emilitary and rank. For example one guy has it listed on his resume he was in Intelligence and he was an O3 captain in the US Air Force. We have no doubt that he was in the Air Force but there is some question as to was he in Intel and was he an officer or enlisted.I know that there is a lot of ex-military on the boards here so I thought someone might know this . I myself am prior military (Air Force) but iI am not even sure if my honorable discharge paper says rank on it or job title. Also, I am not sure it is legal to force someone to give more information than just there Service ie Air Force, navy and when they served and how they left honerable or whatever.Thanks.

Crapshoot · 03-30-2005, 09:07 PM

I think when it comes to Military Service, you can check on it, but you cant' ask too many questions.

Galaril · 03-30-2005, 09:28 PM

yeah, I am not sure what we can check and how? The job doesn't require any clearance like secret or anything like that.

RendeR · 03-30-2005, 09:44 PM

If you can find a contact number you have the right to verify anything this person stated on his resume, the military unlike many companies enjoys prosecuting people for "impersonating an officer"

And yes, they CAN prosecute you for this even after you have left the military.

duckman · 03-30-2005, 10:51 PM

Galaril, my understanding of the situation is this:

You can check on the rank and his actual job in the military. You can even get a general description of his former duties. You can call his former supervisors about his job performance. However, you cannot ask about specific operations unless they have been deem 'unclassified'.

I hope this helps.

vyshka · 03-31-2005, 12:01 AM

Ask him for his DD214 in order to provide proof of service. That should have his rank
among other things.

Galaril · 03-31-2005, 09:08 AM

Thanks good advice.

Dutch · 03-31-2005, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vyshka

Ask him for his DD214 in order to provide proof of service. That should have his rank
among other things.

That's the one I was thinking of. You can also ask the potential employee to provide contact numbers to verify. You might even get some good info on the potential hire from his ex-employees.

Raiders Army · 03-31-2005, 09:57 AM

Remember that someone who receives a General Discharge can apply to get it upgraded to Honorable six months after they're discharged.

stkelly52 · 03-31-2005, 10:56 AM

DO note though that it may be difficult to contact his superiors. The high mobility in the military means that they may have already moved on to another station, and he likly won't know which one.

Dutch · 03-31-2005, 02:13 PM

Yes, as time passes, people move. The interview process should kick in to high gear.

How does Coca-cola really know Bob worked at Pepsi-Cola and was an expert at making bubbles?

Fritz · 03-31-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

I got a question for any people who do the hiring in there jobs placesor are in the know of this. I am leaving my job at the end of may to relocate back to the US and am helping my place find a replacement. My question we are trying to check on a couple of peoples resume past job exeprience with the military. Is it legal or possible to check on a person's job in th emilitary and rank. For example one guy has it listed on his resume he was in Intelligence and he was an O3 captain in the US Air Force. We have no doubt that he was in the Air Force but there is some question as to was he in Intel and was he an officer or enlisted.I know that there is a lot of ex-military on the boards here so I thought someone might know this . I myself am prior military (Air Force) but iI am not even sure if my honorable discharge paper says rank on it or job title. Also, I am not sure it is legal to force someone to give more information than just there Service ie Air Force, navy and when they served and how they left honerable or whatever.Thanks.

I know you can do a FOIA for the above information, but that will take a while.

JeffNights · 03-31-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril

I got a question for any people who do the hiring in there jobs placesor are in the know of this. I am leaving my job at the end of may to relocate back to the US and am helping my place find a replacement. My question we are trying to check on a couple of peoples resume past job exeprience with the military. Is it legal or possible to check on a person's job in th emilitary and rank. For example one guy has it listed on his resume he was in Intelligence and he was an O3 captain in the US Air Force. We have no doubt that he was in the Air Force but there is some question as to was he in Intel and was he an officer or enlisted.I know that there is a lot of ex-military on the boards here so I thought someone might know this . I myself am prior military (Air Force) but iI am not even sure if my honorable discharge paper says rank on it or job title. Also, I am not sure it is legal to force someone to give more information than just there Service ie Air Force, navy and when they served and how they left honerable or whatever.Thanks.

My first question is what leads you to believe that he may be dishonest about being in intelligence and an officer?

Is it because you hear"Intelligence" and you think its some super scret james bond stuff? trust me, it aint. And they are plenty of officers in Intel that all they do is make coffe and shuffle papers.

Galaril · 03-31-2005, 08:53 PM

No actually I was in teh Air Force and my job duties or positon required briefings from Intel guys/gals and aware that it isn't "James Bond stuff". I am not at all suspicious of his background it is my manager and some of the HR folks that are checking. They aren't saying he's lying just how to double check it.

Young Drachma · 03-31-2005, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stkelly52

DO note though that it may be difficult to contact his superiors. The high mobility in the military means that they may have already moved on to another station, and he likly won't know which one.

Yeah, I can't get a hold of any of my old supervisors. I only have contact with one and I always felt bad asking him to do it, even though he didn't mind.

Raiders Army · 04-01-2005, 07:12 AM

Not sure about the Air Force, Navy, or Marines, but if you're still in the Army, you can contact people who you don't know where they are. You can either go to the Army Knowledge Online (AKO) White Pages to look up their AKO email address (everyone in the Army is required to have one), or you can go to the World Wide Locator to find out what unit they're assigned to. I'm not sure if retired military still have access to AKO or not. I believe they do, but ex-military that aren't retired don't.

03-30-2005, 09:44 PM	#4
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	If you can find a contact number you have the right to verify anything this person stated on his resume, the military unlike many companies enjoys prosecuting people for "impersonating an officer" And yes, they CAN prosecute you for this even after you have left the military. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

03-31-2005, 10:56 AM	#10
stkelly52 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle WA	DO note though that it may be difficult to contact his superiors. The high mobility in the military means that they may have already moved on to another station, and he likly won't know which one. __________________ Check out an undrafted free agent's attempt to make the Hall of Fame: Running to the Hall Now nominated for a Golden Scribe!

03-31-2005, 02:13 PM	#11
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Yes, as time passes, people move. The interview process should kick in to high gear. How does Coca-cola really know Bob worked at Pepsi-Cola and was an expert at making bubbles? Last edited by Dutch : 03-31-2005 at 02:13 PM.

03-30-2005, 09:07 PM	#2
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	I think when it comes to Military Service, you can check on it, but you cant' ask too many questions.

03-30-2005, 09:28 PM	#3
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	yeah, I am not sure what we can check and how? The job doesn't require any clearance like secret or anything like that.

03-31-2005, 12:01 AM	#6
vyshka Mascot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ	Ask him for his DD214 in order to provide proof of service. That should have his rank among other things.

03-31-2005, 09:08 AM	#7
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Thanks good advice.

03-31-2005, 09:57 AM	#9
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Remember that someone who receives a General Discharge can apply to get it upgraded to Honorable six months after they're discharged.

03-31-2005, 08:53 PM	#14
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	No actually I was in teh Air Force and my job duties or positon required briefings from Intel guys/gals and aware that it isn't "James Bond stuff". I am not at all suspicious of his background it is my manager and some of the HR folks that are checking. They aren't saying he's lying just how to double check it.

04-01-2005, 07:12 AM	#16
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Not sure about the Air Force, Navy, or Marines, but if you're still in the Army, you can contact people who you don't know where they are. You can either go to the Army Knowledge Online (AKO) White Pages to look up their AKO email address (everyone in the Army is required to have one), or you can go to the World Wide Locator to find out what unit they're assigned to. I'm not sure if retired military still have access to AKO or not. I believe they do, but ex-military that aren't retired don't.

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