Wage Updates

sterlingice · 05-23-2005, 03:39 PM

Ugh. This is going to hurt...

SI

KevinNU7 · 05-23-2005, 03:41 PM

Most have updated and the Excell spreadsheet plus a few estiamtes has out salary at $160k, up $30k from last season. Good thing I sold a titanic middy at the end of the year

sterlingice · 05-23-2005, 03:45 PM

The major candidates have updated for me. I think this counts as "ouch".

Old total: $167,205
New total: $256,833

Major updates
Quentin Staples, starting GK: $15,500 to $31,540
Toni Tanner, starting OCD: $7,368 to $12,600
Charles Vela, starting WTM: $14,900 to $25,400
Martin Cameron, starting OIM: $21,640 to $34,960
Thomas Little, starting OIM: $26,500 to $43,160
Erwin Vickers, starting XIM: $53,880 to $82,120

SI

Raven Hawk · 05-23-2005, 04:05 PM

Old Total: $133,605
New Total: $194,304
Increase: $60,699 or 45%

I agree, SI. Ugh . . .

terpkristin · 05-23-2005, 04:46 PM

SI, why did your GK's wages increase by so much??

/tk

sterlingice · 05-23-2005, 04:53 PM

I bought him at the end of the year and he had gained over 2 levels during the season, already.

I may have to cut my losses with Vickers and ship him out if it becomes too nasty this season. I've got $5M in the bank so I'm not hurting for money, but if I'm bleeding a ton of cash all season...

SI

Poli · 05-23-2005, 05:00 PM

Don't know the damages yet, but I think I'll be much happier than you guys.

Masked · 05-23-2005, 06:38 PM

New wages: $162,340, an increase of $62,872 (63%) (sold a titanic IM late in the season)

Poli · 05-23-2005, 07:25 PM

I'm a very cheap person.

My wage bill was just over 64k. It raised to 73k.

terpkristin · 05-23-2005, 07:31 PM

I'm cheaper than ardent!
Er, I WAS anyway...

I started at 48,084, but they've shot up to 78,984, an increase of about 64%.

I think I have a plan right now to train my middle set of trainees to supernatural-titanic, and then keep them, sell off the others, and switch. That's about three levels, or roughly another season and a half.

/tk

Tellistto · 05-23-2005, 07:48 PM

I started at about $50,000, and should end up somewhere around $65,000-$70,000. Not real sure on the high end, as I've still 8 or so players left to update, though none of them should be going up that high, as they all mostly only got 1-2 levels of scoring, none higher than excellent, plus 2 defenders I bought...

Tell

Vince · 05-23-2005, 08:17 PM

I was at 80,000 -- now I'll be around 120,000. Hopefully I can hang in my series, or it could be a long year financially.

Havok · 05-23-2005, 09:33 PM

Must Get To Divison III Next Season!!!!!

$134,840 --> $219,820

illinifan999 · 05-23-2005, 09:45 PM

2 middies at ET, 1 at titanic

I'm too afraid to even look.

TazFTW · 05-23-2005, 09:56 PM

Still waiting for them to complete and apparently I'm not the only one.

5/24/2005 at 04.42 (Global)
The age updates are taking longer than usual this time. However, they are advancing so we just have to wait until it is finished. It is taking longer than usual because a change to the database structure that has been done last time - that change makes the site significantly faster the rest of the year, but clearly makes these updates somewhat slower than normal (there is no such thing as a free lunch, as they say). Some have asked why we do not close the site to speed it up - the answer is that in this case, that wouldn't help.

bronconick · 05-23-2005, 10:16 PM

Started at $69,707

With 5 players left to update (2 trainees) not counted, I'm at $84k. Throw those 5 in, and it's around 90k.

Still under the IV average. w00t.

saintjo · 05-23-2005, 10:33 PM

i was at 55k. right now (without a few 17 year olds getting updated yet) i am at 77,848. that is around a 70% increase i think.

biggest changes were a 10k to a 17k and a 3.5k to a 8.5k

Hobbes- · 05-24-2005, 12:26 AM

currently @ 130k/week wages
increase looks to be about 40k.. so 170k/week

increase 23.5%
trained pm'ing for 8 weeks and passing for the rest.. which is why the damage wasn't too bad. another 15-16 weeks of passing and back to pm'ing for a season then off to something different..

Mr. Wednesday · 05-24-2005, 12:29 AM

I haven't checked my total, but I should be right around $80k. That will go back down toward $75k when I sell off my trainee keeper and old uber-winger and buy winger trainees, though. Pancho (my main keeper, titanic+) only went up by $15k to around $30k/wk, which I can certainly live with, I was afraid it would be more. My first winger trainee has been trained in pm so will probably not see a wage increase next year as I don't expect to get his winger skill above his PM skill.

TazFTW · 05-24-2005, 04:11 AM

According to HAM, my wages increased by a little over $29k.

Alf · 05-24-2005, 04:43 AM

After a rough estimate I will probable be around 220k (ouch), up from 140k

PilotMan · 05-24-2005, 09:27 AM

We went from the ~100k range to ~155k range.

Uhg, how bad is it when one of your series mates just purchased a player whose salary is more than your entire team?

ibnsgirl · 05-24-2005, 03:38 PM

question:

How do I find my division's average wages? I know I've seen it before, but I'm not finding it right now.
With my wages all the way up to 25k (up from 21k last season), I somehow think that I am not going to be on the top 10 list of high-paying teams. Still, it would be nice to know where I am in the range.

Thanks

Professor58 · 05-24-2005, 04:08 PM

From Supporter stats:

Average Wage bill:

USA VI $16,000
V $33,000
IV $101,000
III $231,000
II $395,000
ML $558,000

Highest:
VI $175,000
V $441,000
IV $462,000
III $579,000
II $594,000
ML $1,022,000

sterlingice · 05-24-2005, 04:11 PM

Whoops. Is it bad when my salary exceeds Div III averages?

SI

TazFTW · 05-24-2005, 04:18 PM

My wages are more than triple the average for D V. Slightly higher than D IV which I just demoted from.

Mr. Wednesday · 05-24-2005, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Whoops. Is it bad when my salary exceeds Div III averages?

Not if you're in II.

NAIWF · 05-24-2005, 05:54 PM

Old wages = $177,975
New wages = $236,728

I sold my mythical middie (~99K from ~54) and an excellent defensemen today, but two guys I just picked up total roughly 30K, so the damage would have been 70K worse had I stood pat. All in all, I'm glad I'm only $5,728 above average with a more balanced team I hope

FrogMan · 05-24-2005, 07:16 PM

pre update: 121998 U$
post update: 154700 U$
increase of 32702 U$, or 26.8%

Not bad for a team that gives an average low rating of 230 and a possible high of 265...

FM

terpkristin · 05-24-2005, 07:46 PM

Hmm.
I'm more than double the average wage for V, but still a bit under the average wage for IV.

Hopefully things will pan out this season and I'll land in IV for season 27.

/tk

bmalek · 05-24-2005, 07:48 PM

pre update: 36432 US$
post update: 66995 US$

Nice 54% increase

tucker rocky · 05-24-2005, 09:18 PM

Last week:

Wages 50 841

This week:

Wages 51 356

I have to say, that I qualify as the cheapest.

So far.

tucker rocky · 05-24-2005, 09:21 PM

I'll be glad to loan out any of my top notch economists, to help with some of those high wages, that other players have.

thealmighty · 05-24-2005, 10:20 PM

I'm afraid to add it up but it could get nasty.

Just my big 2 cost well over $40k...ouch.

Matt2You · 05-24-2005, 10:49 PM

Pre-Update I was at: $148 025 weekly
Post-Update: I am looking at somewhere near $210 000

I'm selling a little over 18k of that total salary too, but likely to replace it with a similiarly high salary (but American) player. So, with a 42% wage increase I'm not that upset. I guess I really should consider what to do with my top IM who is 25% of my wages though... hmmmm...

daedalus · 05-25-2005, 05:16 AM

So I went from 64 148 last week to an expected 55 436 this week. I don't know whether to be happy because my wages is lower than most of us here or to be sad because, well, it is lower than most of us here.

I think I'll go with blissful ignorance and be happy for now.

tucker rocky · 05-25-2005, 05:51 AM

Do the cheapies get an award?

tucker rocky · 05-25-2005, 05:57 AM

maybe this'll do:

sterlingice · 05-25-2005, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Do the cheapies get an award?

No, but you do get to pocket the proceeds

SI

05-23-2005, 03:41 PM	#2
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Most have updated and the Excell spreadsheet plus a few estiamtes has out salary at $160k, up $30k from last season. Good thing I sold a titanic middy at the end of the year __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

05-23-2005, 03:45 PM	#3
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	The major candidates have updated for me. I think this counts as "ouch". Old total: $167,205 New total: $256,833 Major updates Quentin Staples, starting GK: $15,500 to $31,540 Toni Tanner, starting OCD: $7,368 to $12,600 Charles Vela, starting WTM: $14,900 to $25,400 Martin Cameron, starting OIM: $21,640 to $34,960 Thomas Little, starting OIM: $26,500 to $43,160 Erwin Vickers, starting XIM: $53,880 to $82,120 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 05-23-2005 at 03:45 PM.

05-23-2005, 04:05 PM	#4
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Old Total: $133,605 New Total: $194,304 Increase: $60,699 or 45% I agree, SI. Ugh . . . __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

05-23-2005, 04:46 PM	#5
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	SI, why did your GK's wages increase by so much?? /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

05-23-2005, 04:53 PM	#6
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I bought him at the end of the year and he had gained over 2 levels during the season, already. I may have to cut my losses with Vickers and ship him out if it becomes too nasty this season. I've got $5M in the bank so I'm not hurting for money, but if I'm bleeding a ton of cash all season... SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-23-2005, 05:00 PM	#7
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Don't know the damages yet, but I think I'll be much happier than you guys. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-23-2005, 06:38 PM	#8
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	New wages: $162,340, an increase of $62,872 (63%) (sold a titanic IM late in the season)

05-23-2005, 07:25 PM	#9
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm a very cheap person. My wage bill was just over 64k. It raised to 73k. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-23-2005, 07:31 PM	#10
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I'm cheaper than ardent! Er, I WAS anyway... I started at 48,084, but they've shot up to 78,984, an increase of about 64%. I think I have a plan right now to train my middle set of trainees to supernatural-titanic, and then keep them, sell off the others, and switch. That's about three levels, or roughly another season and a half. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

05-23-2005, 07:48 PM	#11
Tellistto College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Whitman, MA	I started at about $50,000, and should end up somewhere around $65,000-$70,000. Not real sure on the high end, as I've still 8 or so players left to update, though none of them should be going up that high, as they all mostly only got 1-2 levels of scoring, none higher than excellent, plus 2 defenders I bought... Tell __________________ FOOL - Ann Arbor Winged Lingerines FOOLX - Portland Axemen Hattrick - Fizzle United (222968)

05-23-2005, 08:17 PM	#12
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I was at 80,000 -- now I'll be around 120,000. Hopefully I can hang in my series, or it could be a long year financially. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

05-23-2005, 09:33 PM	#13
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Must Get To Divison III Next Season!!!!! $134,840 --> $219,820 __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

05-23-2005, 09:45 PM	#14
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	2 middies at ET, 1 at titanic I'm too afraid to even look. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

05-23-2005, 09:56 PM	#15
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Still waiting for them to complete and apparently I'm not the only one. 5/24/2005 at 04.42 (Global) The age updates are taking longer than usual this time. However, they are advancing so we just have to wait until it is finished. It is taking longer than usual because a change to the database structure that has been done last time - that change makes the site significantly faster the rest of the year, but clearly makes these updates somewhat slower than normal (there is no such thing as a free lunch, as they say). Some have asked why we do not close the site to speed it up - the answer is that in this case, that wouldn't help.

05-23-2005, 10:16 PM	#16
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Started at $69,707 With 5 players left to update (2 trainees) not counted, I'm at $84k. Throw those 5 in, and it's around 90k. Still under the IV average. w00t.

05-23-2005, 10:33 PM	#17
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	i was at 55k. right now (without a few 17 year olds getting updated yet) i am at 77,848. that is around a 70% increase i think. biggest changes were a 10k to a 17k and a 3.5k to a 8.5k __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com

05-24-2005, 12:26 AM	#18
Hobbes- High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philly	currently @ 130k/week wages increase looks to be about 40k.. so 170k/week increase 23.5% trained pm'ing for 8 weeks and passing for the rest.. which is why the damage wasn't too bad. another 15-16 weeks of passing and back to pm'ing for a season then off to something different.. __________________ Owner of Fockers (71987) Death to 8 Ball!

05-24-2005, 12:29 AM	#19
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I haven't checked my total, but I should be right around $80k. That will go back down toward $75k when I sell off my trainee keeper and old uber-winger and buy winger trainees, though. Pancho (my main keeper, titanic+) only went up by $15k to around $30k/wk, which I can certainly live with, I was afraid it would be more. My first winger trainee has been trained in pm so will probably not see a wage increase next year as I don't expect to get his winger skill above his PM skill. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

05-24-2005, 04:11 AM	#20
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	According to HAM, my wages increased by a little over $29k.

05-24-2005, 04:43 AM	#21
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	After a rough estimate I will probable be around 220k (ouch), up from 140k __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

05-24-2005, 09:27 AM	#22
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	We went from the ~100k range to ~155k range. Uhg, how bad is it when one of your series mates just purchased a player whose salary is more than your entire team? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

05-24-2005, 03:38 PM	#23
ibnsgirl H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Texas	question: How do I find my division's average wages? I know I've seen it before, but I'm not finding it right now. With my wages all the way up to 25k (up from 21k last season), I somehow think that I am not going to be on the top 10 list of high-paying teams. Still, it would be nice to know where I am in the range. Thanks __________________ Hattrick: The Smacky Packers 71158 Thanks to my supporters: TonyR (SA Griffins FC), sterlingice (Houston Hippopotami), TK (Real Terps FC), the notorious pirate AE (Puke Green Sox FC), Krondor (Krondor Lancers), Dark Affair (Orient Express), and tucker rocky (Jacksonville Kickers).

05-24-2005, 04:08 PM	#24
Professor58 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Aug 2002	From Supporter stats: Average Wage bill: USA VI $16,000 V $33,000 IV $101,000 III $231,000 II $395,000 ML $558,000 Highest: VI $175,000 V $441,000 IV $462,000 III $579,000 II $594,000 ML $1,022,000 __________________ Hattrick : High Tops OOTP: AFBL : Ohio OOTP: CBL : London OOTP : NPBL : California OOTP : WBA : Los Angeles

05-24-2005, 04:11 PM	#25
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Whoops. Is it bad when my salary exceeds Div III averages? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

05-24-2005, 04:18 PM	#26
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	My wages are more than triple the average for D V. Slightly higher than D IV which I just demoted from.

05-24-2005, 05:54 PM	#28
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Old wages = $177,975 New wages = $236,728 I sold my mythical middie (~99K from ~54) and an excellent defensemen today, but two guys I just picked up total roughly 30K, so the damage would have been 70K worse had I stood pat. All in all, I'm glad I'm only $5,728 above average with a more balanced team I hope

05-24-2005, 07:16 PM	#29
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	pre update: 121998 U$ post update: 154700 U$ increase of 32702 U$, or 26.8% Not bad for a team that gives an average low rating of 230 and a possible high of 265... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-24-2005, 07:46 PM	#30
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Hmm. I'm more than double the average wage for V, but still a bit under the average wage for IV. Hopefully things will pan out this season and I'll land in IV for season 27. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

05-24-2005, 07:48 PM	#31
bmalek n00b Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL	pre update: 36432 US$ post update: 66995 US$ Nice 54% increase __________________ Brian Malek Atlas Mademedoits Hattrick Team ID: 223349

05-24-2005, 09:18 PM	#32
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Last week: Wages 50 841 This week: Wages 51 356 I have to say, that I qualify as the cheapest. So far.

05-24-2005, 09:21 PM	#33
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	I'll be glad to loan out any of my top notch economists, to help with some of those high wages, that other players have.

05-24-2005, 10:20 PM	#34
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	I'm afraid to add it up but it could get nasty. Just my big 2 cost well over $40k...ouch. __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

05-24-2005, 10:49 PM	#35
Matt2You H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Saint Louis	Pre-Update I was at: $148 025 weekly Post-Update: I am looking at somewhere near $210 000 I'm selling a little over 18k of that total salary too, but likely to replace it with a similiarly high salary (but American) player. So, with a 42% wage increase I'm not that upset. I guess I really should consider what to do with my top IM who is 25% of my wages though... hmmmm... __________________ Owner of Saint Louis Imperfect Assembly, III.5 USA

05-25-2005, 05:16 AM	#36
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	So I went from 64 148 last week to an expected 55 436 this week. I don't know whether to be happy because my wages is lower than most of us here or to be sad because, well, it is lower than most of us here. I think I'll go with blissful ignorance and be happy for now.

05-25-2005, 05:51 AM	#37
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Do the cheapies get an award?