How did you first hear about Front Office Football?

Solecismic · 08-24-2005, 01:10 PM

I'm interested in finding out how people first learned about the Front Office Football series of games. I'll be posting a second poll momentarily related to this topic.

I'd appreciate it if everyone who reads this item answers the poll. Thanks.

flere-imsaho · 08-24-2005, 01:12 PM

I think I googled "NFL simulation" or "NFL sim video game" and ended up here.

maximus · 08-24-2005, 01:13 PM

OTHER-

I did a search on google for NFL/Pro-Football simulations and found a link to the Solecismic site. From there I looked for fan sites and found FOFC.

rkmsuf · 08-24-2005, 01:13 PM

I yahoo searched "Drew Bledsoe naked". It's a miracle I made it here.

cartman · 08-24-2005, 01:13 PM

It came to me in a vision. At first I thought it was the Virgin Mary, or maybe The Tall Man. But as the light receded a bit, the shape became clearer. And then it all became clear. Front Office Football.

Either that, or I found it during a newsgroup search back in '99.

Kodos · 08-24-2005, 01:13 PM

I heard about FOF on a Madden board.

Chas in Cinti · 08-24-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I'm interested in finding out how people first learned about the Front Office Football series of games. I'll be posting a second poll momentarily related to this topic.

I'd appreciate it if everyone who reads this item answers the poll. Thanks.

I was on the EA Sports site and found the link. That version wasn't out yet, so I bought the old one....

-Chas

JeeberD · 08-24-2005, 01:15 PM

I think I did a search (AltaVista is what I used back then, I think) for "Pro football simulation" or something similar and wound up on EA's site. This was during the FOF2 days...

Doing some research on the best way to market the new game, Jim?

Sorry...I tried to resist.

Marmel · 08-24-2005, 01:15 PM

I remember buying Football Mogul in a store, and being fascinated with it. I searched online for anything I could get my hands on and came across FOF, not sure if it was through your website Jim, or via FOFC Sidelines.

sabotai · 08-24-2005, 01:15 PM

On the Sierra message boards (I was a regular on their FPS:Football Pro section). It got a lot of attention there.

vex · 08-24-2005, 01:15 PM

I selected other. I googled something like football simulation.

John Galt · 08-24-2005, 01:16 PM

I can't remember. I know I went from Baseball Mogul to FOF, but I don't know what led me to that transition. I'm guessing it was a websearch as I was often looking for patches or user utilities for games like FPS Football. So, I'm guessing web search, but I really don't know.

henry296 · 08-24-2005, 01:16 PM

It was a High Heat message board that Tony ran that discussed Front Office Football which was my first introduction to the game... I think I then starting coming to the original FOFC and bought FOF2.

Crapshoot · 08-24-2005, 01:17 PM

OOTP messageboards.

sabotai · 08-24-2005, 01:17 PM

Kind of odd that the first place people would hear about FOF is on an FOF fan site...

Ben E Lou · 08-24-2005, 01:17 PM

Baseball was my first love, both in real life and in gaming. I had been writing Strat-O-Matic every year for maybe 3-4 years and asking for their computer game to have some career progression stuff in it. Then, I started searching the 'net for a career baseball game, and ran across Baseball Mogul. After playing it for a while, I started looking for football, and Metacrawler led me to Solecismic.com. The rest is history. I checked Solecismic.com in the poll, but more accurate would have been: "internet search."

jeff061 · 08-24-2005, 01:17 PM

I googled text football sim, think I found FOFC and little else.

NoMyths · 08-24-2005, 01:18 PM

Found a link to the old Sideline forum when looking for information about the Title Bout boxing sim.

Godzilla Blitz · 08-24-2005, 01:18 PM

I checked FOFC but in hindsight probably should have checked "other". I found out about FOF through people on a now defunct baseball simulation board. Bunch of us (SkyDog was one of them) were playing Baseball Mogul and a few people there mentioned FOF. That led me here, and what I saw here convinced me to try the game.

flere-imsaho · 08-24-2005, 01:18 PM

Clearly "Google" should have been a poll option.

Just buy some Google Ads and call it a day, Jim!

Subby · 08-24-2005, 01:18 PM

Other - Word of mouth...

KWhit · 08-24-2005, 01:19 PM

Hmmm.... It was the EA version of the game with the NFL license. I believe I read a review in a gaming magazine (PC Gamer, if memory serves).

33sherman · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

Googled for it, like others.

Ben E Lou · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Clearly "Google" should have been a poll option.

Just buy some Google Ads and call it a day, Jim!

If Google was around when I did my search (shortly before the release of FOF1), I didn't know about it. Metacrawler, baby!

Easy Mac · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

I was a regular on the SIgames forum and saw something about it. I kind of brushed it off until finally giving TCY a try. So I guess word of mouth.

Is this market research Jim... or can this be considered viral marketing? Quick, someone post a pick of a fake screenshot of FOF Baseball being played in an empty apartment.

digamma · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

I saw a post on the Georgia Tech message board about TCY and landed here.

kingfc22 · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

OOTP boards

Anthony · 08-24-2005, 01:21 PM

i had purchased the non-functional FPS '98 from Sierra, and i was extremely excited to read the manual and all the stuff it said it'd do. it was everything i couldn't get with Madden. it didn't work, but it piqued my interest in the management side of pro football. i coincidentally read a PC Gaming magazine, i think it was Computer Gaming Monthly, and they had an awards article, best action game, best RPG, etc. i got up to best sports and this game called Front Office Football had received like 4.5 or 5 stars. i remember being in the computer lab the day i printed out the Solecismic website to read on my way home.

NoSkillz · 08-24-2005, 01:21 PM

'Other' for me as well: I read about the FOFC community and FOF on the OOTP boards. Having been a fan of the old Front Page Football games from Sierra, I moved over here to get my football fix.

Hammer755 · 08-24-2005, 01:21 PM

I was looking for a baseball simulation, found OOTP, and discovered FOF there. I was a fan of FPS Football Pro as well.

hukarez · 08-24-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmel

I remember buying Football Mogul in a store, and being fascinated with it. I searched online for anything I could get my hands on and came across FOF, not sure if it was through your website Jim, or via FOFC Sidelines.

Same here. I had bought Football Mogul, and thought there had to be some other simulations. I think I googled: "football text sim" or something a few years ago, and came across Solecismic that way.

moriarty · 08-24-2005, 01:22 PM

I read a glowing article about it in an online game review site. Computer Gaming or somthing like that.

Lonnie · 08-24-2005, 01:23 PM

Was playing Madden in sim mode and was frustrated with the lack of data and the cumbersome way to handle things like signing players. Remembered Front Office Football I had seen on store shelves, but never bought. Googled "Football simulation" and "Front Office Football", found solecismic.com.

VPI97 · 08-24-2005, 01:23 PM

Google or whatever the search engine was back then. After discovering soccer management simulations in the mid '90s, I had a habit of searching for new ones every few months and FOF showed up one day.

korme · 08-24-2005, 01:24 PM

EA SPORTS website, heh

John Travolta · 08-24-2005, 01:24 PM

Christian Slater introduced me to it.

Bee · 08-24-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

On the Sierra message boards (I was a regular on their FPS:Football Pro section). It got a lot of attention there.

me too.

Critch · 08-24-2005, 01:25 PM

Other - I'd played CM for years, all the way back to the first one, and thought there must be something similar for US sports. Searched the internet (probably Yahoo back then, not Google) and found FOF and Baseball Mogul.

John Galt · 08-24-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Travolta

Christian Slater introduced me to it.

Aren't you dead yet?

maximus · 08-24-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt

Aren't you dead yet?

soon

PilotMan · 08-24-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus

OTHER-

I did a search on google for NFL/Pro-Football simulations and found a link to the Solecismic site. From there I looked for fan sites and found FOFC.

Exactly how I came across it.

Butter · 08-24-2005, 01:26 PM

Found FOFC when I was searching for some topic or another related to football... it was shortly after TCY came out, and I gave the demo a try and liked it so much I bought it.

markprior22 · 08-24-2005, 01:26 PM

OOTP boards

Senator · 08-24-2005, 01:28 PM

That was a long time ago, but I think I stumbled across an interview you gave using at the time a yahoo search engine, what was that 1997 or 98 maybe, I can't remember, for a "football sim" and it led me to you, and then the green Sidelines forum that morphed into this God Awful monstrosity.

cthomer5000 · 08-24-2005, 01:32 PM

I am about 99.9% positive I stumbled upon a review through a web search (so I'm giving the web search credit here). I disctinctly recall that i played a demo of FOF2, but then when i went to purchase found out that FOF2001 had been released.

vtbub · 08-24-2005, 01:34 PM

Sideline

John Travolta · 08-24-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus

soon

I'll be toasting my health long after you've gone the way of the dinosaur, my friend.

rkmsuf · 08-24-2005, 01:37 PM

secrets of the universe

WSUCougar · 08-24-2005, 01:37 PM

I voted for "online gaming magazine," because I want to say I read a short review of FOF somewhere online. I later followed up by searching for the name of the game (or "text sim football" or somesuch) and finding Sideline that way. After lurking there for awhile, I picked up FOF2 and the rest is history.

Edit: Actually, looks like Senator and I followed a similar road.

dacman · 08-24-2005, 01:37 PM

I saw a link to "Front Office Football" on EA's website (FOF2).

View Poll Results: How did you first hear about FOF?
Newsgroup (Usenet)	43	14.98%
Print Gaming Magazine	28	9.76%
Online Gaming Magazine	36	12.54%
FOFC	29	10.10%
Solecismic.com	22	7.67%
Ad in Sports Weekly	0	0%
Ad in Pro Football Weekly	0	0%
Ad in football preview magazine	2	0.70%
Rivals.com	0	0%
Newspaper coverage	0	0%
Other (please respond and specify)	127	44.25%
Voters: 287. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2005, 01:13 PM	#3
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	OTHER- I did a search on google for NFL/Pro-Football simulations and found a link to the Solecismic site. From there I looked for fan sites and found FOFC. Last edited by maximus : 08-24-2005 at 01:15 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:13 PM	#4
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I yahoo searched "Drew Bledsoe naked". It's a miracle I made it here. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

08-24-2005, 01:13 PM	#5
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	It came to me in a vision. At first I thought it was the Virgin Mary, or maybe The Tall Man. But as the light receded a bit, the shape became clearer. And then it all became clear. Front Office Football. Either that, or I found it during a newsgroup search back in '99. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 08-24-2005 at 01:14 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:15 PM	#8
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I think I did a search (AltaVista is what I used back then, I think) for "Pro football simulation" or something similar and wound up on EA's site. This was during the FOF2 days... Doing some research on the best way to market the new game, Jim? Sorry...I tried to resist. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO Last edited by JeeberD : 08-24-2005 at 01:16 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:12 PM	#2
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I think I googled "NFL simulation" or "NFL sim video game" and ended up here.

08-24-2005, 01:13 PM	#6
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I heard about FOF on a Madden board.

08-24-2005, 01:15 PM	#9
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	I remember buying Football Mogul in a store, and being fascinated with it. I searched online for anything I could get my hands on and came across FOF, not sure if it was through your website Jim, or via FOFC Sidelines. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

08-24-2005, 01:15 PM	#10
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	On the Sierra message boards (I was a regular on their FPS:Football Pro section). It got a lot of attention there.

08-24-2005, 01:15 PM	#11
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I selected other. I googled something like football simulation.

08-24-2005, 01:16 PM	#12
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	I can't remember. I know I went from Baseball Mogul to FOF, but I don't know what led me to that transition. I'm guessing it was a websearch as I was often looking for patches or user utilities for games like FPS Football. So, I'm guessing web search, but I really don't know. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

08-24-2005, 01:16 PM	#13
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	It was a High Heat message board that Tony ran that discussed Front Office Football which was my first introduction to the game... I think I then starting coming to the original FOFC and bought FOF2. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

08-24-2005, 01:17 PM	#14
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	OOTP messageboards.

08-24-2005, 01:17 PM	#16
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Baseball was my first love, both in real life and in gaming. I had been writing Strat-O-Matic every year for maybe 3-4 years and asking for their computer game to have some career progression stuff in it. Then, I started searching the 'net for a career baseball game, and ran across Baseball Mogul. After playing it for a while, I started looking for football, and Metacrawler led me to Solecismic.com. The rest is history. I checked Solecismic.com in the poll, but more accurate would have been: "internet search." __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'! Last edited by Ben E Lou : 08-24-2005 at 01:18 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:17 PM	#17
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I googled text football sim, think I found FOFC and little else. __________________

08-24-2005, 01:18 PM	#18
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Found a link to the old Sideline forum when looking for information about the Title Bout boxing sim.

08-24-2005, 01:18 PM	#19
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I checked FOFC but in hindsight probably should have checked "other". I found out about FOF through people on a now defunct baseball simulation board. Bunch of us (SkyDog was one of them) were playing Baseball Mogul and a few people there mentioned FOF. That led me here, and what I saw here convinced me to try the game. Last edited by Godzilla Blitz : 08-24-2005 at 01:20 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:18 PM	#21
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Other - Word of mouth... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-24-2005, 01:19 PM	#22
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Hmmm.... It was the EA version of the game with the NFL license. I believe I read a review in a gaming magazine (PC Gamer, if memory serves).

08-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#23
33sherman Mascot Join Date: Nov 2002	Googled for it, like others.

08-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#25
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I was a regular on the SIgames forum and saw something about it. I kind of brushed it off until finally giving TCY a try. So I guess word of mouth. Is this market research Jim... or can this be considered viral marketing? Quick, someone post a pick of a fake screenshot of FOF Baseball being played in an empty apartment.

08-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#26
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I saw a post on the Georgia Tech message board about TCY and landed here.

08-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#27
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	OOTP boards __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-24-2005, 01:21 PM	#28
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i had purchased the non-functional FPS '98 from Sierra, and i was extremely excited to read the manual and all the stuff it said it'd do. it was everything i couldn't get with Madden. it didn't work, but it piqued my interest in the management side of pro football. i coincidentally read a PC Gaming magazine, i think it was Computer Gaming Monthly, and they had an awards article, best action game, best RPG, etc. i got up to best sports and this game called Front Office Football had received like 4.5 or 5 stars. i remember being in the computer lab the day i printed out the Solecismic website to read on my way home.

08-24-2005, 01:21 PM	#29
NoSkillz College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Canada	'Other' for me as well: I read about the FOFC community and FOF on the OOTP boards. Having been a fan of the old Front Page Football games from Sierra, I moved over here to get my football fix. __________________ MY CURRENT FM19 DYNASTY - FM19: "Ludere causa Ludendi - To Play for the Sake of Playing" - Queen's Park FC (Scottish League Two) MY OLD FM11 DYNASTY - FM11: From Semi-Pro Minnows to the EPL - Dover Athletic FC My Personal Blog - Now on the Tee - Golf, Sports, Poker, Life 2006 GOLDEN SCRIBE AWARD WINNER FOR BEST 'OTHER SPORT' DYNASTY - EHM2005: Sharpening Swords in Buffalo

08-24-2005, 01:21 PM	#30
Hammer755 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, TX	I was looking for a baseball simulation, found OOTP, and discovered FOF there. I was a fan of FPS Football Pro as well. __________________ I failed Signature 101 class. Last edited by Hammer755 : 08-24-2005 at 01:22 PM.

08-24-2005, 01:22 PM	#32
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	I read a glowing article about it in an online game review site. Computer Gaming or somthing like that.

08-24-2005, 01:23 PM	#33
Lonnie High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Midlothian, TX	Was playing Madden in sim mode and was frustrated with the lack of data and the cumbersome way to handle things like signing players. Remembered Front Office Football I had seen on store shelves, but never bought. Googled "Football simulation" and "Front Office Football", found solecismic.com. __________________ Lonnie

08-24-2005, 01:23 PM	#34
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Google or whatever the search engine was back then. After discovering soccer management simulations in the mid '90s, I had a habit of searching for new ones every few months and FOF showed up one day. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

08-24-2005, 01:24 PM	#35
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	EA SPORTS website, heh

08-24-2005, 01:24 PM	#36
John Travolta n00b Join Date: Jul 2005	Christian Slater introduced me to it.

08-24-2005, 01:25 PM	#38
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Other - I'd played CM for years, all the way back to the first one, and thought there must be something similar for US sports. Searched the internet (probably Yahoo back then, not Google) and found FOF and Baseball Mogul.

08-24-2005, 01:26 PM	#42
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Found FOFC when I was searching for some topic or another related to football... it was shortly after TCY came out, and I gave the demo a try and liked it so much I bought it. __________________ My listening habits

08-24-2005, 01:26 PM	#43
markprior22 High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, il	OOTP boards

08-24-2005, 01:28 PM	#44
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	That was a long time ago, but I think I stumbled across an interview you gave using at the time a yahoo search engine, what was that 1997 or 98 maybe, I can't remember, for a "football sim" and it led me to you, and then the green Sidelines forum that morphed into this God Awful monstrosity. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand