It all started...on snopes?

sachmo71 · 09-21-2005, 10:15 AM

Does anyone remember this email and the trouble it caused?

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/personal/volunteer.asp

Funny that it's on snopes now...but perhaps it was the troll's close and personal bus driving friend that started it.

Ksyrup · 09-21-2005, 10:22 AM

Well now, that's interesting, isn't it?

Klinglerware · 09-21-2005, 10:22 AM

Wow...

Subby · 09-21-2005, 10:23 AM

Great quote from the guy who forwarded the account and then was mistakenly assumed as the author because no one pulled his sig block.

"I've learned a hard and difficult lesson and I hope those of you who read this have also. Too much of what we all mindlessly forward through cyberspace can only be termed fictious, unsubstantiated trash. The appropriate receptacle is a garbage can."

Models are dumb.

Butter · 09-21-2005, 10:23 AM

Very interesting.

HomerJSimpson · 09-21-2005, 10:33 AM

What? That may have not been true? I am shocked.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-21-2005, 11:05 AM

Interesting indeed...

stevew · 09-21-2005, 11:11 AM

Too bad she isnt here to defend her self....oh wait. And i think SkyDog made a ytmnd for her.

hxxp://banned.ytmnd.com

Yellow5 · 09-21-2005, 12:58 PM

Interesting.

I have a friend working for the Salvation Army at the San Antonio shelter and she's been sending me email every few days about the situation down there. Nothing at all like the snopes email (shocking!!), in fact she said that people were extremely grateful for the help and support being provided.

It's not all roses and happy sparkle land down there, but it's nowhere near what we read in the snopes email.

and lol at that banned thing.. wish I had that when I was admin @ the planetunreal and beyondunreal forums.

sterlingice · 09-21-2005, 01:41 PM

Yeah, who would have thought that an obviously inflamatory email made by someone banned for stirring up controversy might have been made up. I thought the internet was the medium where facts where checked, double checked, and rechecked before trying to cause a giant ruckus

SI

jeff061 · 09-21-2005, 01:47 PM

I thought she was banned for not being a vet???!?!?

Subby · 09-21-2005, 01:58 PM

Boy that whole "let me invite my wife to my forum" thing really worked out for the Browns, huh?

Yeah. Not so much.

ThunderingHERD · 09-21-2005, 09:31 PM

Wait... I never really read any thread that capsicum posted in, but she tried to pass this email off as written by a close personal friend of hers?

That's fucking hilarious.

kcchief19 · 09-21-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Great quote from the guy who forwarded the account and then was mistakenly assumed as the author because no one pulled his sig block.

"I've learned a hard and difficult lesson and I hope those of you who read this have also. Too much of what we all mindlessly forward through cyberspace can only be termed fictious, unsubstantiated trash. The appropriate receptacle is a garbage can."

I repeat this for emphasis.

I get very few of these forwarded e-mails anymore because if I ever get one I e-mail the person and everyone else on the list the link to snopes or urban legends Web sites explaining it's full of crap. I have converted a half other dozen people to the cause who do the same thing now.

In regards to the original claims by a former poster here regarding the first-hand nature of the document, I would like to request a feather be delivered to me so you can knock me over.

DaddyTorgo · 09-21-2005, 09:57 PM

oh shit. that's hilarious. Can we as a board just thumb our noses in the general direction of those who attempted to pass this off as a "letter from a close personal friend" here and use it to incite some kind of controversy?

sterlingice · 09-21-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

I repeat this for emphasis.

I get very few of these forwarded e-mails anymore because if I ever get one I e-mail the person and everyone else on the list the link to snopes or urban legends Web sites explaining it's full of crap. I have converted a half other dozen people to the cause who do the same thing now.

I threaten to sign them up for email list upon email list if they forward chain emails to me. Works just as effective but maybe I should go with the nicer example you have

SI

Crapshoot · 09-21-2005, 10:24 PM

Wait - I thought she posted it as something someone sent her- did she actually say a close friend ? That ranks high on the capsicum unintentional comedy scale.

sachmo71 · 09-21-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Wait - I thought she posted it as something someone sent her- did she actually say a close friend ? That ranks high on the capsicum unintentional comedy scale.

Yes, it was a few days after Katrina hit...perhaps a week. Long before it was up at Snopes.

EDIT: Here is the post from the End Of New Orleans thread, in case anyone wants to read it. Like I said, it's possible she was duped by her friend. I just find the whole thing...ironic.

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/foru...&postcount=124

MikeVick7 · 09-22-2005, 07:17 AM

Man, that is funny and sad all at the same time.

HomerJSimpson · 09-22-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVick7

Man, that is funny and sad all at the same time.

The gullible and stupid will always be with us. You pick which one fits this situation.

Critch · 09-22-2005, 08:10 AM

I got this email this morning. Does that mean that the bus driver is one of my close personal friends too?

Ksyrup · 09-22-2005, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Critch

I got this email this morning. Does that mean that the bus driver is one of my close personal friends too?

Does the email you got specifically refer to the bus driver?

Critch · 09-22-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Does the email you got specifically refer to the bus driver?

Don't know, I didn't actually read it.

Ksyrup · 09-22-2005, 08:54 AM

That's the only part I'm curious about. If the whole bus driver thing is included in the email going around, that nails her. If not, it's just as likely that someone she knew claimed to have gone, or did go, but passed this story along as his/her own. Now, if this story jibed with how this "bus driver" friend usually thinks, I'm not sure what that person is doing as a close friend, but that's for them to deal with, not us.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-22-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

That's the only part I'm curious about. If the whole bus driver thing is included in the email going around, that nails her. If not, it's just as likely that someone she knew claimed to have gone, or did go, but passed this story along as his/her own. Now, if this story jibed with how this "bus driver" friend usually thinks, I'm not sure what that person is doing as a close friend, but that's for them to deal with, not us.

The bus driver thing doesn't appear to be in the original e-mail, at least Snopes makes no mention of it.

Here's what the Trollbitch(tm) said about it, but only after being pressed about the veracity of the report:

"Because it was emailed to me from a school bus driver here in California that I know personally. We worked together for the same elementary school for several years. I taught , she drove school buses. She emailed me this morning after getting back home. She was very angry and upset that so many people were not taking the help that was being offered."

So perhaps, the Trollbitch(tm) was horn-swaggled in believing this to be an accurate account from her friend. Or, perhaps, she knew this wasn't really coming from her bus driver friend and told a lie to "legitimize" this account. If I was a gambling man, I'd put my money on the latter...

jeff061 · 09-22-2005, 09:21 AM

I think it's much more upsetting that she taught elementary school kids.

HomerJSimpson · 09-22-2005, 11:45 AM

I think you are reading into her statement that she was suggesting her friend was the author. I am pretty sure the first post in that thread states that a friend of hers found this on someone's blog. I do not think she ever claimed the the Bus Driver wrote the email, but that she was the one who forward it to her.

stevew · 09-22-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The bus driver thing doesn't appear to be in the original e-mail, at least Snopes makes no mention of it.

Here's what the Trollbitch(tm) said about it, but only after being pressed about the veracity of the report:

"Because it was emailed to me from a school bus driver here in California that I know personally. We worked together for the same elementary school for several years. I taught , she drove school buses. She emailed me this morning after getting back home. She was very angry and upset that so many people were not taking the help that was being offered."

So perhaps, the Trollbitch(tm) was horn-swaggled in believing this to be an accurate account from her friend. Or, perhaps, she knew this wasn't really coming from her bus driver friend and told a lie to "legitimize" this account. If I was a gambling man, I'd put my money on the latter...

Damn, a lying Trollbitch(tm)? Say it ain't so.

kcchief19 · 09-22-2005, 12:06 PM

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This was sent to me from my MIL who had several people that work with her travel down and join some people from Texas to volunteer aid. This read is very blunt. I would like to preface it with an explanation that I DO NOT agreee with all of the persons personal sentiments. It does show an amazingly different story, tho then the one fed to us by the popular media about conditions in the shelters ect., and for that reason only am I sharing it. I believe an enourmous amount of aid is still needed, It is not my opinion in anyway to suggest that the people of New Orleans are not deserving of the countries help.

This was capsicum's "qualifying statement" to the aforementioned spam mail. I deduced from this that the bus driver is her MIL (mother-in-law?) and would seem to suggest that her MIL had several people th at work with her and travelled down to join some people from Texas. We should have picked up on that earlier. She pretty much went out of here way to suggest that the MIL/bus driver worked with people who went down and joined up with people in Texas to help with aid, trying to imply that the unnamed doctor was one of those people.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-22-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

This was capsicum's "qualifying statement" to the aforementioned spam mail. I deduced from this that the bus driver is her MIL (mother-in-law?) and would seem to suggest that her MIL had several people th at work with her and travelled down to join some people from Texas. We should have picked up on that earlier. She pretty much went out of here way to suggest that the MIL/bus driver worked with people who went down and joined up with people in Texas to help with aid, trying to imply that the unnamed doctor was one of those people.

Woah. She wasn't even consistent within her own lies. Shameful.

HomerJSimpson · 09-22-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

This was capsicum's "qualifying statement" to the aforementioned spam mail. I deduced from this that the bus driver is her MIL (mother-in-law?) and would seem to suggest that her MIL had several people th at work with her and travelled down to join some people from Texas. We should have picked up on that earlier. She pretty much went out of here way to suggest that the MIL/bus driver worked with people who went down and joined up with people in Texas to help with aid, trying to imply that the unnamed doctor was one of those people.

I am wrong. That is what i get for taking up for her. She does seem to suggest she actually knew the person.

jimney cricket · 09-22-2005, 05:07 PM

Yep its me.

Ya know, ya'll should get your stories straight.

I posted that I recieved that email from my mother - in -law.

I ALSO posted that I had recieved OTHER EMAILS that seemed to colaborate what this "volunteer" had encountered.

I do have a friend thats a bus driver. FACT
I the same friend traveled to new orleans to help with evacuees.FACT
I said she had personally shared many frustrating experiences that SHE had down there, while trying to help out that seemed to colaborate this email in questions story.

I NEVER ONCE SAID OR IMPLIED That I KNEW THE AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL EMAIL

Guess thats less exciting then what ya'll would like to make up tho huh?

sabotai · 09-22-2005, 05:10 PM

Oh man, this is gonna be fun!

jeff061 · 09-22-2005, 05:15 PM

Google image search didn't turn up anything for "jimney cricket" squish.

st.cronin · 09-22-2005, 05:46 PM

good grief

Joe · 09-22-2005, 06:13 PM

MikeVick7 · 09-22-2005, 06:14 PM

So she actually signed up for another account to "clear up the air" huh? So terrible.

Crapshoot · 09-22-2005, 06:37 PM

huh- my money would have been on her using Franklin's account.

Swaggs · 09-22-2005, 06:58 PM

She killed a potentially very good nickname for the future.

kcchief19 · 09-22-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimney cricket

Yep its me.

Ya know, ya'll should get your stories straight.

I posted that I recieved that email from my mother - in -law.

I ALSO posted that I had recieved OTHER EMAILS that seemed to colaborate what this "volunteer" had encountered.

Since you're still here craving the attention you apparently need, you initially stated that this came from "MIL," which would appear to mean "mother in law." You later qualified your statement and said:

Quote:

Please read my qualifying statement. I do not agree all of this persons sentiments. I also recieved emails from folks that voluntered to drive school busses donated by schools down to help with the evacuess , only to be told by the very people they were trying to help to "go home", it seems the people didnt find the school busses comfortable enough to make the long ride to houston in....they wanted charter busses and would wait for them.
I dont understand the mentality of people who stand around complaining that government is failing to get them help and then refusing to be helped when offered a chance to leave.

I believe many americans are still unaware of this phenomenon.

Im a little amazed that people there would stand around the flooded streets and in the filth with theyre children before agreeing to get on a school bus and ride to saftey.

I think this is what embittered "this volunteer".

Who was "this volunteer?" Are you referring to the doctor who allegedly wrote the e-mail or a schoold bus driver who offered to drive a bus to pick up people and was apparently rejected by the people they were trying to help? And how did this happen? Did these people drive from Houston to New Orleans and get told to go away? How else would this bus driver friend have communicated with people in New Orleans and offered them transportation?

It sounds like you're either confused or you're trying to be misleading. Can't imagine why either would be true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimney cricket

I NEVER ONCE SAID OR IMPLIED That I KNEW THE AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL EMAIL

Definition of imply:

Quote:

2: suggest as a logically necessary consequence; in logic

Thought I'd quote it since you don't know what it means. You stated that the e-mail came from your mother-in-law who works with several people tho volunteered to go to help. People who use logic would deduce that since you connected the e-mail to your mother-in-laws coworkers that there was some knowledge of the origin. You never stated that the origin was in doubt; in fact, you brought up additional "sources" to support your original position.

That's 108 kittens now.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-22-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

That's 108 kittens now.

sachmo71 · 09-22-2005, 07:35 PM

I knew this was going to happen. Bring me the kittens, son.

-God

sterlingice · 09-22-2005, 07:38 PM

Won't someone please think of the kittens! *insert Mrs. Lovejoy pic here*

SI

09-21-2005, 10:22 AM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Well now, that's interesting, isn't it? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-21-2005, 10:23 AM	#4
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Great quote from the guy who forwarded the account and then was mistakenly assumed as the author because no one pulled his sig block. "I've learned a hard and difficult lesson and I hope those of you who read this have also. Too much of what we all mindlessly forward through cyberspace can only be termed fictious, unsubstantiated trash. The appropriate receptacle is a garbage can." Models are dumb. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com Last edited by Subby : 09-21-2005 at 10:24 AM.

09-21-2005, 10:23 AM	#5
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Very interesting. __________________ My listening habits

09-21-2005, 10:33 AM	#6
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	What? That may have not been true? I am shocked. __________________ Marge: The plant called. They said if you don't come in tommorow, don't bother coming in Monday, either. Homer: Who-hoo! Four day weekend!!

09-21-2005, 11:05 AM	#7
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09-21-2005, 10:22 AM	#3
Klinglerware College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The DMV	Wow...

09-21-2005, 11:11 AM	#8
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Too bad she isnt here to defend her self....oh wait. And i think SkyDog made a ytmnd for her. hxxp://banned.ytmnd.com

09-21-2005, 12:58 PM	#9
Yellow5 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tacoma, Wa.	Interesting. I have a friend working for the Salvation Army at the San Antonio shelter and she's been sending me email every few days about the situation down there. Nothing at all like the snopes email (shocking!!), in fact she said that people were extremely grateful for the help and support being provided. It's not all roses and happy sparkle land down there, but it's nowhere near what we read in the snopes email. and lol at that banned thing.. wish I had that when I was admin @ the planetunreal and beyondunreal forums. __________________ Xbox Gamertag: m0nk3y b0t

09-21-2005, 01:41 PM	#10
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yeah, who would have thought that an obviously inflamatory email made by someone banned for stirring up controversy might have been made up. I thought the internet was the medium where facts where checked, double checked, and rechecked before trying to cause a giant ruckus SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-21-2005, 01:47 PM	#11
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I thought she was banned for not being a vet???!?!? __________________

09-21-2005, 01:58 PM	#12
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Boy that whole "let me invite my wife to my forum" thing really worked out for the Browns, huh? Yeah. Not so much. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

09-21-2005, 09:31 PM	#13
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Wait... I never really read any thread that capsicum posted in, but she tried to pass this email off as written by a close personal friend of hers? That's fucking hilarious. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now." Last edited by ThunderingHERD : 09-21-2005 at 09:31 PM.

09-21-2005, 09:57 PM	#15
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oh shit. that's hilarious. Can we as a board just thumb our noses in the general direction of those who attempted to pass this off as a "letter from a close personal friend" here and use it to incite some kind of controversy?

09-21-2005, 10:24 PM	#17
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Wait - I thought she posted it as something someone sent her- did she actually say a close friend ? That ranks high on the capsicum unintentional comedy scale.

09-22-2005, 07:17 AM	#19
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	Man, that is funny and sad all at the same time. __________________ Hattrick - Seattle Reign (224367)

09-22-2005, 08:10 AM	#21
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I got this email this morning. Does that mean that the bus driver is one of my close personal friends too?

09-22-2005, 08:54 AM	#24
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That's the only part I'm curious about. If the whole bus driver thing is included in the email going around, that nails her. If not, it's just as likely that someone she knew claimed to have gone, or did go, but passed this story along as his/her own. Now, if this story jibed with how this "bus driver" friend usually thinks, I'm not sure what that person is doing as a close friend, but that's for them to deal with, not us. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-22-2005, 09:21 AM	#26
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I think it's much more upsetting that she taught elementary school kids. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 09-22-2005 at 09:22 AM.

09-22-2005, 11:45 AM	#27
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	I think you are reading into her statement that she was suggesting her friend was the author. I am pretty sure the first post in that thread states that a friend of hers found this on someone's blog. I do not think she ever claimed the the Bus Driver wrote the email, but that she was the one who forward it to her. __________________ Marge: The plant called. They said if you don't come in tommorow, don't bother coming in Monday, either. Homer: Who-hoo! Four day weekend!!

09-22-2005, 05:07 PM	#32
jimney cricket Banned Join Date: Sep 2005	Ya'll feel better about yourselves yet?? Yep its me. Ya know, ya'll should get your stories straight. I posted that I recieved that email from my mother - in -law. I ALSO posted that I had recieved OTHER EMAILS that seemed to colaborate what this "volunteer" had encountered. I do have a friend thats a bus driver. FACT I the same friend traveled to new orleans to help with evacuees.FACT I said she had personally shared many frustrating experiences that SHE had down there, while trying to help out that seemed to colaborate this email in questions story. I NEVER ONCE SAID OR IMPLIED That I KNEW THE AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL EMAIL Guess thats less exciting then what ya'll would like to make up tho huh?

09-22-2005, 05:10 PM	#33
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Oh man, this is gonna be fun!

09-22-2005, 05:15 PM	#34
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Google image search didn't turn up anything for "jimney cricket" squish. __________________

09-22-2005, 05:46 PM	#35
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	good grief

09-22-2005, 06:13 PM	#36
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	...

09-22-2005, 06:14 PM	#37
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	So she actually signed up for another account to "clear up the air" huh? So terrible. __________________ Hattrick - Seattle Reign (224367)

09-22-2005, 06:37 PM	#38
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	huh- my money would have been on her using Franklin's account.

09-22-2005, 06:58 PM	#39
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	She killed a potentially very good nickname for the future. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

09-22-2005, 07:35 PM	#42
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	I knew this was going to happen. Bring me the kittens, son. -God

09-22-2005, 07:38 PM	#43
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Won't someone please think of the kittens! insert Mrs. Lovejoy pic here SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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