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Join Date: Jan 2005
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1998 NFL Draft: Wide Receivers
I was perusing pre-draft essays regarding the 1998 NFL Draft when I ran into Paul Zimmerman's rating of each position here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...04/14/z_picks/ For a few laughs...here are his top 5 WR picks of the 1998 draft, along with their career numbers: 1. Kevin Dyson (178 career catches, 2325 yards, 18 TDs, 58 games played, retired) 2. Jacquez Green (162 catches, 2311 yards, 7 TDs, 67gp, retired) 3. Germane Crowell (184 catches, 2722 yards, 16 TDs, 54gp, retired) 4. Marcus Nash (4 catches, 76 yards, 7gp, retired) 5. Joe Jurevicius (184 catches, 2402 yards, 15 TDs, 90gp) He then goes on to explain why Randy Moss (589 catches, 9485 yards, 92 TDs, 112gp) doesn't make his top 5: Quote:
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Strategy Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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My guess is that you can pretty much make a fool out of anyone if you pull up their predictions from any given draft. If you look at DL, LB, and DB he seems to have a much higher perecentage of hits there.
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Bounty Hunter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Personally, I'm more amused by the list of running backs in that article (Curtis Enis!). Anyway, about the "top five" wide receivers, I never would've guessed that Jacquez Green played in more games than Kevin Dyson, and I certainly never would've guessed that Germane Crowell has the best overall stats out of all of those top five. Amazing stuff.
As an aside, Marcus Nash is an absolute stud in the Arena Football League, playing for a merely average Las Vegas team. In fact, he holds the league record for most receptions in a season. Also, QB John Dutton was mentioned in that linked article, and he just led the Colorado Crush to the AFL championship. I know that the AFL isn't the NFL by any stretch of the imagination, but it's good to see that a couple of the guys mentioned in that article have found a place to shine. Now, as for that Andre Wadsworth fellow... ![]()
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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That's true, but to step outside the format of the column you're writing just to dis a guy that quickly turns into one of the best players in football gets you bonus fool points.
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College Prospect
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Michigan
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Ya know, Germane Crowell was actually a pretty decent WR, injuries really fucked him.
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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So, what happened to Germane Crowell, anyway? Injuries? I seem to recall his fade being really quick (obviously) - but don't remember any specifics.
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Bounty Hunter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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This is the correct answer.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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I enjoy going back and taking a look at the past drafts analysis and the reasoning behind each pick/non picks. Especially when you see the effects in later draft strategy e.g don't take the Texas RB with the dredlocks.
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College Prospect
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Michigan
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He had a left knee ligament tear, that healed, then his right one fucking blew up too. Then his ankles,and blah blah The guy was a speedster who could get open, I enjoyed watching him on my Lions on Sundays. RECEIVING Year Team G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD 1998 Detroit Lions 14 2 25 464 18.6 68 3 7 3 15 1999 Detroit Lions 16 15 81 1338 16.5 77 7 23 7 54 2000 Detroit Lions 9 7 34 430 12.6 50 3 6 1 16 2001 Detroit Lions 5 4 22 289 13.1 46 2 5 1 14 2002 Detroit Lions 10 5 22 201 9.1 22 1 1 0 11 2003 Detroit Lions 0 0 0 0 --- 0 0 0 0 0 2004 New Orleans Saints 0 0 0 0 --- 0 0 0 0 0 TOTAL 54 33 184 2722 14.8 77 16 42 12 110 he got hurt early in the 00' season if memory serves... Last edited by JeffNights : 09-28-2005 at 09:44 PM. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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To be fair, he says this under moss' actual profile scouting report:
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Thats an excerpt from a larger scouting report which all glows about him except for his off field troubles...so to be fair, he says he could be great too
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Tampa, FL
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You can thank Tony "Loyal to a fault" Dungy for that. Green was exposed for his lack of being able to catch a ball other than on the fly and even then had a terrible problem with adjusting to the ball. "Jacquez Green down the sidelines...he's all alone! Dilfer see's Green and fires a bomb....ohhhhh....it drops harmless a foot to Jacquez Green's left." Aargh! Move to your left! Move to your left! Just turn your body. Your feet. Anything, Jacquez! Your wide open! Oh yeah, I remember that guy. 4.1 speed and probably less talent than found in Renaldo Nehemiah's pinky finger. ![]() |
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jun 2003
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This is the reason I like to buy and keep the football preview magazines. They make for great reading down the line.
This is also why I like the x-factor in FOF. You never really know how things are going to play out. |
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FOF2 Guy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Paris, France
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my favourite draft / WR thing is 1996 when Keyshawn Johson goes #1 overall while Terrell Owens (a Hall of Fame caliber player and arguably one of the 3 best Wide Receivers of the decade) goes in the 3rd round...
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Meh... TO is clearly twice the player Keyshawn is now but still only has about 800 extra yards for his career. Keyshawn was more productive his first 4 years until TO had close to 1500 yards and 15 TD's in 2000. Different kind of players really, TO always had a higher YPC but Keyshawn more catches and total yards. Given that TO came out of a small school and Keyshawn came out of Southern California I don't find it that surprising. If you remember those Jets teams they had a huge WR need and nobody was talking about TO that high. There is always a couple of players who nobody talks about who break out. I don't think in 1996 there was any way anyone could have seen TO being better than KJ. Keyshawn had 4 pretty decent years with the Jets and then turned into a mid first round pick. Not too bad I think when you consider some of the high first round busts from the same era. EDIT - just adding I never knew TO's middle name was Eldorado. That's pretty funny. Last edited by bhlloy : 09-29-2005 at 05:27 AM. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
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TO also had Jerry Rice as a mentor. Who did Keyshawn have?
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Moss owns all...just wanted to make sure you all know that...mentor or not, which he had Chris Carter, but still his rookie year 17 TD's...beat that...
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
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5. Jonathan Quinn, Middle Tennessee State. Bet you don't know MTSU's nickname. Me, neither, but I know they have one. Quinn ran a 4.57 at the combine workouts. He has a gun. Intriguing prospect.
Heh! 1. Curtis Enis, Penn State. A gathering force at 242 pounds, and they'll all be knocking themselves out to trade up for him. But I'm not in love with the idea that he missed the biggest game of the year, the Citrus Bowl, because he'd signed with an agent. Double Heh! And to amuse me even more about the Bears ridiculousness over the last zillion years...the mock draft on that site had them taking Moss. Their top 8 team needs didn't even INCLUDE a running back, yet what did they take. (sound familiar?) Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 09-29-2005 at 08:33 AM. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Syracuse, NY
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Sorry, LB mentors are specific in regards to OLB and ILB :P |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
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Wayne Chrebet
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