World Series, Game 1

Celeval · 10-22-2005, 06:55 PM

Damn. That might have been the best-sounding national anthem since Whitney Houston's Super Bowl.

vtbub · 10-22-2005, 06:57 PM

He did well.

Radio on, TV on mute.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-22-2005, 06:59 PM

I'm not a fan of his, but that was a very good rendition.

Time to play ball!

terpkristin · 10-22-2005, 07:18 PM

I need to chime in with this now. Since my boys (Boston) didn't make it very far in the post-season, I'm cheering for one of my two favorite NL teams, the Astros (who I don't follow anywhere nearly as close as I do the BoSox).

GO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!!!!

/tk

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 07:20 PM

Good, the Astros could always use some more fans.

And where is Jeeber? I need somebody to talk to throughout the game!

terpkristin · 10-22-2005, 07:21 PM

Uh oh.
2 outs, Clemens throws a HR pitch.

/tk

vtbub · 10-22-2005, 07:22 PM

Smart hitting.

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 07:22 PM

Good grief. And Clemens is pissed, a couple of those balls were close

terpkristin · 10-22-2005, 07:29 PM

Wow, and they get one right back!
/tk

Rizon · 10-22-2005, 07:32 PM

This doesn't look like the pitching duel they were making it out to be.

"Don't... don't... don't sit on the hood. That hood will dent. I told the kids not to get on the hood! Just see if you can bounce it loose, and I'll... ah... just bounce it loose."

Galaxy · 10-22-2005, 07:45 PM

Who sang the national anthem?

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 07:46 PM

What is happening to Roger?
And why the hell did Everett not throw the ball to home?!

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 08:05 PM

Who said what about a pitching duel? 6 runs in 2 1/2 innings is pretty impressive

mauchow · 10-22-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Who sang the national anthem?

Josh Groban

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 08:12 PM

And Clemens is out after 2 innings. Beautiful.

vtbub · 10-22-2005, 08:13 PM

TTweaked the hammy

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 08:28 PM

He better be able to pitch Thursday.

mauchow · 10-22-2005, 09:42 PM

I was wondering when he'd go to the bullpen. *shakes head* Mannnnn

LoneStarGirl · 10-22-2005, 09:43 PM

If Crede hadn't have made those 2 great plays the Astros would be up 5-4.
He's a good player.

mauchow · 10-22-2005, 09:46 PM

Here come the Stros.

mauchow · 10-22-2005, 09:51 PM

Sheesh. Huge K's there.

Mr. Sparkle · 10-22-2005, 10:09 PM

That sure was an annoying show plug there.

Cards4ever · 10-22-2005, 10:30 PM

The White Sox were able to hold on, I thought for sure the Stros were going to tie it up. Should be interesting to see what Guillen does when the games get to the Juice Box.

ISiddiqui · 10-22-2005, 10:37 PM

Bobby Jenks was a monster!

The White Sox bullpen seems to be just as good as their starters!

sterlingice · 10-22-2005, 10:41 PM

Great game- just really well played baseball. Sure, the starting pitching wasn't quite the caliber people were expecting but there was quite a bit of good pitching and the game was really entertaining.

SI

MizzouRah · 10-23-2005, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Great game- just really well played baseball. Sure, the starting pitching wasn't quite the caliber people were expecting but there was quite a bit of good pitching and the game was really entertaining.

SI

I agree.

Karlifornia · 10-23-2005, 02:10 PM

Houston blew quite a few chances (or..CWS found ways to get out of trouble)

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 09:01 PM

Well, I don't see a WS Game 2 thread so how about building off of this one. A couple of thoughts:

I swear- this is how baseball should feel
That last half inning was just... "wow"
I know sabermetricians have attempted to prove that there's no such thing as clutch, but 1) I think they are missing the point with small samples sizes and looking at it as "who is consistently clutch" rather than "who is affected by stress" and 2) Berkman is clutch

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-23-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

I know sabermetricians have attempted to prove that there's no such thing as clutch, but 1) I think they are missing the point with small samples sizes and looking at it as "who is consistently clutch" rather than "who is affected by stress"

Doesn't that mean Berkman is affected by stress less, rather than he is more 'clutch'. Clutch is supposed to mean that you turn it up during pressure situations, rather than not being as affected by stress.

McSweeny · 10-23-2005, 09:26 PM

fwiw

Bill James has said that he cannot prove that clutch exists. Lack of proof does not disprove clutch

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Doesn't that mean Berkman is affected by stress less, rather than he is more 'clutch'. Clutch is supposed to mean that you turn it up during pressure situations, rather than not being as affected by stress.

I suppose in other sports, yes, that's how you'd define clutch. I think in baseball, that's just not possible to quantify and, yes, you've described what I claim is "baseball clutch". Due to the fact that 10% of performance (.250 to .350 average) separates the best players from the worst, there's just not enough sample and too much noise to mathematically prove it, however.

SI

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McSweeny

fwiw

Bill James has said that he cannot prove that clutch exists. Lack of proof does not disprove clutch

Rob Neyer has argued on numerous occasions that clutch hitters do not exist.

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-23-2005, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McSweeny

fwiw

Bill James has said that he cannot prove that clutch exists. Lack of proof does not disprove clutch

Perhaps, but the onus of proof is one those who make an assertion. It's like saying that if you can't disprove that God exists then he must.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I suppose in other sports, yes, that's how you'd define clutch. I think in baseball, that's just not possible to quantify and, yes, you've described what I claim is "baseball clutch". Due to the fact that 10% of performance (.250 to .350 average) separates the best players from the worst, there's just not enough sample and too much noise to mathematically prove it, however.

I think you are changing definitions, frankly, to make a point. I've heard, quite often, that Derek Jeter gets BETTER in the playoffs or 'clutch' situations. Not that he isn't affected by stress, but that he becomes an even greater player when pressure is in play.

WrongWay · 10-23-2005, 09:37 PM

Anyone know what kind of heating system they have for the dugouts? Because, it looks very cold there. Not to mention wet. I wonder if anyone will come up sick, because they are not going to stop this game.

You always here about the NFL's heated benches and heaters, but you never heare about MLBs heating system.

McSweeny · 10-23-2005, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Rob Neyer has argued on numerous occasions that clutch hitters do not exist.

SI

oh i know

i'm just saying that Bill James never came out and said "clutch does NOT exist". He's just said that he can't prove or disprove it

WrongWay · 10-23-2005, 09:39 PM

actually, it looks like the rain has stopped

ISiddiqui · 10-23-2005, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongWay

actually, it looks like the rain has stopped

No way! It's still pouring.

WrongWay · 10-23-2005, 09:42 PM

ODoes this mean more replay talk?... Sure looked like it hit the Bat to me.

ISiddiqui · 10-23-2005, 09:44 PM

HOLY CRAP! Grand Slam Konerko!

kingfc22 · 10-23-2005, 09:45 PM

Damn, when it's your year it's your year.

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 09:48 PM

Wow

SI

Rizon · 10-23-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongWay

ODoes this mean more replay talk?... Sure looked like it hit the Bat to me.

No doubt in my mind baseball will have replay by the end of this decade. I'd have been against it before, but I think the game is just moving too fast now for umps. Takes away from the "purity" of the ... oh wait, baseball has purity still??

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Tim, John get off the ump's ass already. There's a game going on. You can abuse that clip later.

SI

kingfc22 · 10-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Ughh. Can we stop giving early christmas gifts to the Sox please.

WrongWay · 10-23-2005, 09:54 PM

Either way it should be easy to spot the bruise tomorrow.

sterlingice · 10-23-2005, 10:17 PM

WOOT!

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-23-2005, 10:17 PM

WOW... looks like we may be headed into extras! Vizcaino comes up big!

kingfc22 · 10-23-2005, 10:18 PM

I can't believe that Burke was able to score on that hit. WOOT!!!

I just scared my cat shitless.

Rizon · 10-23-2005, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I can't believe that Burke was able to score on that hit.

He looked like he was going to be nailed. Was he even to third yet before the LF had the ball?

Logan · 10-23-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

He looked like he was going to be nailed. Was he even to third yet before the LF had the ball?

Nope...he was about a stride and a half away.

EDIT: For anyone who is reading this and isn't watching...Podsednik fielded that ball in short left center. He couldn't have been more than 50 feet past the dirt.

EDIT #2: Retribution

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10-22-2005, 06:59 PM	#3
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'm not a fan of his, but that was a very good rendition. Time to play ball! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-22-2005, 07:18 PM	#4
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I need to chime in with this now. Since my boys (Boston) didn't make it very far in the post-season, I'm cheering for one of my two favorite NL teams, the Astros (who I don't follow anywhere nearly as close as I do the BoSox). GO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!!!! /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

10-22-2005, 07:21 PM	#6
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Uh oh. 2 outs, Clemens throws a HR pitch. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

10-22-2005, 07:22 PM	#7
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Smart hitting. __________________

10-22-2005, 07:29 PM	#9
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Wow, and they get one right back! /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

10-22-2005, 06:57 PM	#2
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	He did well. Radio on, TV on mute. __________________

10-22-2005, 07:20 PM	#5
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Good, the Astros could always use some more fans. And where is Jeeber? I need somebody to talk to throughout the game!

10-22-2005, 07:45 PM	#11
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Who sang the national anthem? Last edited by Galaxy : 10-22-2005 at 07:45 PM.

10-22-2005, 07:46 PM	#12
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	What is happening to Roger? And why the hell did Everett not throw the ball to home?!

10-22-2005, 08:05 PM	#13
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Who said what about a pitching duel? 6 runs in 2 1/2 innings is pretty impressive

10-22-2005, 08:12 PM	#15
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	And Clemens is out after 2 innings. Beautiful.

10-22-2005, 08:13 PM	#16
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	TTweaked the hammy __________________

10-22-2005, 08:28 PM	#17
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	He better be able to pitch Thursday.

10-22-2005, 09:42 PM	#18
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I was wondering when he'd go to the bullpen. shakes head Mannnnn

10-22-2005, 09:43 PM	#19
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	If Crede hadn't have made those 2 great plays the Astros would be up 5-4. He's a good player.

10-22-2005, 09:46 PM	#20
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Here come the Stros.

10-22-2005, 09:51 PM	#21
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Sheesh. Huge K's there.

10-22-2005, 10:09 PM	#22
Mr. Sparkle High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco	That sure was an annoying show plug there. __________________ I hope life isn't a joke, because I don't get it

10-22-2005, 10:30 PM	#23
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	The White Sox were able to hold on, I thought for sure the Stros were going to tie it up. Should be interesting to see what Guillen does when the games get to the Juice Box. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

10-22-2005, 10:37 PM	#24
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Bobby Jenks was a monster! The White Sox bullpen seems to be just as good as their starters! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-22-2005, 10:41 PM	#25
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Great game- just really well played baseball. Sure, the starting pitching wasn't quite the caliber people were expecting but there was quite a bit of good pitching and the game was really entertaining. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2005, 02:10 PM	#27
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Houston blew quite a few chances (or..CWS found ways to get out of trouble) __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-23-2005, 09:01 PM	#28
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Well, I don't see a WS Game 2 thread so how about building off of this one. A couple of thoughts: I swear- this is how baseball should feel That last half inning was just... "wow" I know sabermetricians have attempted to prove that there's no such thing as clutch, but 1) I think they are missing the point with small samples sizes and looking at it as "who is consistently clutch" rather than "who is affected by stress" and 2) Berkman is clutch SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 10-23-2005 at 09:01 PM.

10-23-2005, 09:26 PM	#30
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	fwiw Bill James has said that he cannot prove that clutch exists. Lack of proof does not disprove clutch

10-23-2005, 09:37 PM	#34
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	Anyone know what kind of heating system they have for the dugouts? Because, it looks very cold there. Not to mention wet. I wonder if anyone will come up sick, because they are not going to stop this game. You always here about the NFL's heated benches and heaters, but you never heare about MLBs heating system.

10-23-2005, 09:39 PM	#36
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	actually, it looks like the rain has stopped

10-23-2005, 09:42 PM	#38
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	ODoes this mean more replay talk?... Sure looked like it hit the Bat to me.

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	HOLY CRAP! Grand Slam Konerko! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-23-2005, 09:45 PM	#40
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Damn, when it's your year it's your year. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-23-2005, 09:48 PM	#41
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2005, 09:52 PM	#43
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Tim, John get off the ump's ass already. There's a game going on. You can abuse that clip later. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2005, 09:54 PM	#45
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	Either way it should be easy to spot the bruise tomorrow.

10-23-2005, 10:17 PM	#46
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	WOOT! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2005, 10:18 PM	#48
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I can't believe that Burke was able to score on that hit. WOOT!!! I just scared my cat shitless. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 10-23-2005 at 10:18 PM.

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