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Old 12-19-2005, 07:02 AM   #1
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Girl attacked by Boy wielding peanut butter cracker

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Old 12-19-2005, 07:43 AM   #2
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Ragone, if this is your attempt to make fun of this story I am not impressed.

I was expecting to read some overhyped, overblown news story about a playground bully, but instead it is about a little girl who was rushed to the Hospital after she colapsed when her Air Passageway was cut off, because of her allergic reaction to Peanuts.

Not cool.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:58 AM   #3
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Not cool.
Oh the irony.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:02 AM   #4
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yea, because obviously i went on to say that the little girl should have just... cowboy'ed up and went on to school..

sure.. whatever, i just wanted to bring to light a very scary story.. and yet another hypersensitive person thinks it was in jest
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:14 AM   #5
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sure.. whatever, i just wanted to bring to light a very scary story..
BS. Read your headline and tell me that is not an attempt at a joke?

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Old 12-19-2005, 08:15 AM   #6
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yeah, I don't think Ragone was making fun of the story. His headline basically paraphrased the headline from the story.

I know kids will be kids, and it's hard to explain to a young child the concept that some people can't be around certain foods, but my son would be getting the spanking of his life had he been the kid who did that to the little girl.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:21 AM   #7
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yeah, I don't think Ragone was making fun of the story. His headline basically paraphrased the headline from the story.

I know kids will be kids, and it's hard to explain to a young child the concept that some people can't be around certain foods, but my son would be getting the spanking of his life had he been the kid who did that to the little girl.


Yea, honestly it sounded like to me the kid knew what would happen, yet did it anyway
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:23 AM   #8
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Well. I reasoned from Ragone's headline that this was likely a peanut allergy story.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:27 AM   #9
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My other question.. could this be considered assault with intent.. considering the boy knew what would happen?
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:16 AM   #10
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Let me preface by saying that I'm not saying that peanut allergies are not real in this post.

But when you were in school, do you remember anyone having any sort of allergies like this? Did people have them and they were just chalked up to "asthma"? Or was I just blind to them when I was a kid. I never remember being barred from bringing Reese cups to school or somesuch thing because someone in the school had peanut allergies. But now, both my kid's schools have classes in their school with kids that have severe peanut allergies, and others of my friends have said the same thing. One kid in my kid's Kindergarten class has an allergy to "red dye" and as such can't have fruit punch.

Is this a relatively new phenomenon, and if so, what has brought on this increase in kids with such severe allergies?
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:21 AM   #11
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Is this a relatively new phenomenon, and if so, what has brought on this increase in kids with such severe allergies?
My wife told me that this has a lot to do with improvements in food handling measures. We aren't exposed to the same level of "bad stuff" that we were in the past and thus our immunities aren't what they used to be. Makes sense on its face, but I haven't remotely researched the hypothesis...
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:45 AM   #12
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Is this a relatively new phenomenon, and if so, what has brought on this increase in kids with such severe allergies?
I think partly. Childhood asthma and allergies are one the rise, but I'm not a medical expert and can't explain the whys and wherefores.

But I think some of the prevalence of the rise in incidents has as much to do with access as anything else. Back in my day, we certainly home candies and such at school from time to time, but nothing like what goes on these days. There are more opportunities for things to go wrong.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:54 AM   #13
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Let me preface by saying that I'm not saying that peanut allergies are not real in this post.

But when you were in school, do you remember anyone having any sort of allergies like this? Did people have them and they were just chalked up to "asthma"? Or was I just blind to them when I was a kid. I never remember being barred from bringing Reese cups to school or somesuch thing because someone in the school had peanut allergies. But now, both my kid's schools have classes in their school with kids that have severe peanut allergies, and others of my friends have said the same thing. One kid in my kid's Kindergarten class has an allergy to "red dye" and as such can't have fruit punch.

Is this a relatively new phenomenon, and if so, what has brought on this increase in kids with such severe allergies?
Senior year in High School (93) a girl bought a twix, normal twix, from the vending machine...Ended up taking a big bite, immediately spitting out what she just ate....a peanut butter twix...2 days later, she passed away from the allergy....

After seeing her gagging, vomitting, and unable to breathe, I take all food allergies seriously.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:57 AM   #14
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I think it depends on what you call an allergy. An allergy to me is something that provokes a serious reaction (possibly life-threatening). The person I work with has several food "allergies". It's pretty ridiculous, to say the least. She's "allergic" to the following:

Alfalfa, Almonds, Asparagus, Avocados, Bananas, Green Beans, Kidney Beans, Pinto Beans, Yellow Wax Beans, Brazil Nuts, Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Cheese (all types), Cherries, Chili Peppers, Corn, Garlic, Cow's Milk, Mustard, Onions, Parsley, Peanuts, Pineapples, Plums, Pumpkins, Canola Oil, Radishes, Soybeans, Tomatoes, Wheat, and Yeast.

I asked her if she eats ice cream, and she says that she sometimes does, even though she's allergic. All she gets when she eats this stuff is some indigestion and possibly diahrrea. I guess by that standard I'm allergic to Mexican food.

Just to be clear, I understand that some people have severe reactions to types of food and I'm not making fun of them.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:18 AM   #15
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don't know if you've read/heard about it, but about three weeks ago, a 15yo girl died after kissing her boyfriend who had eaten a peanut butter sandwich...

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/c...kiss.death.ap/

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SAGUENAY, Quebec (AP) -- A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital officials said Monday.

Christina Desforges died in a Quebec hospital Wednesday after doctors were unable to treat her allergic reaction to the kiss the previous weekend.

Desforges, who lived in Saguenay, about 155 miles north of Quebec City, was almost immediately given a shot of Adrenaline, a standard tool for treating the anaphylactic shock brought on by a peanut allergy, officials said.

An autopsy was being performed. Dr. Nina Verreault, an allergist at the Chicoutimi Hospital in Saguenay, declined to comment on the case.

The symptoms of peanut allergy can include hives, plunging blood pressure and swelling of the face and throat, which can block breathing.

Peanut allergies have been rising in recent decades. The reason remains unclear, but one study found that baby creams or lotions with peanut oil may cause children to develop allergies later in life.

About 1.5 million Americans are severely allergic to even the smallest trace of peanuts and peanut allergies account for 50 to 100 deaths in the United States each year. Canadian figures were not immediately available.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



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Old 12-19-2005, 10:19 AM   #16
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dola, they say he "had just eaten" although from what I remember on the TV news, it was something like 9 hours prior to the kiss... I could be wrong though...

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Old 12-19-2005, 10:30 AM   #17
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The thread title is fine, the little boy did attack her pretty much. He knew she was allergic, was making fun of her, and then started to get her with the peanut butter cracker. I can't say the boy should face criminal charges, but if he doesn't get his Christmas canceled by Mom and Dad then he is getting off a little too easy IMO.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:10 AM   #18
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One theory I've heard is that the reason that there are so many peanut allergies these days is that the grand majority of peanuts in most commercial products are genetically modified and people are allergic to the modification of the peanuts and thus would not have developed the allergy to begin with if they had only ever had natural organic peanut butter. Now, I'm not sure I really believe this because I know that they specifically do not allow genetically modified corn in food because some people are allergic to it (it's used to feed cattle instead) and thus I'd think they'd just do the same thing with peanuts if that was found to be what was causing the increase in allergies.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:57 PM   #19
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A while back, I was at Ebbets Field taking in a ball game with Grampa. He bought a box of cracker jack treats for 3 pence. I asked grampa, "Are those the same cracker jack treats that I saw in the moving picture show?"

Grampa responded, "Why, yes. Since I don't have any more Werther's Original hard-candies, why don't you take a nice big handful of these here Cracker Jack treats?"

"Oh, boy! Will I ever!?," I said. So, I reached into that wonderfully colored box and grabbed a handful of cracker jack. I withdrew my clenched hand, and inside of it sat a brand new miniature bubble gum card, with my favorite player-Hoyt Wilhelm. I leaped out of my seat, the beanie atop my head spun in the wind. As I ripped open the card's wrapper, I shoveled in a mouthful of cracker jack. As soon as I began chewing, I felt ill....was this my dysentery acting up again? I spit out my cracker jack, and there it was-one half-chewed peanut. I immediately vomited all over Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was sitting on my left. I then fell over the lap of one Franklin D. Roosevelt. He removed his bionic legs and strucketh me about the neck and face. When I woke up, I was in quarantine-or "internment" as they said. They interrogated me through a loudpseaker. They thought I had been sent by the Russians to spread a virus through regurgitated peanuts, and other peanut based products. I had only one option. I had to use my powers of flight.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:05 PM   #20
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A while back, I was at Ebbets Field taking in a ball game with Grampa. He bought a box of cracker jack treats for 3 pence. I asked grampa, "Are those the same cracker jack treats that I saw in the moving picture show?"

Grampa responded, "Why, yes. Since I don't have any more Werther's Original hard-candies, why don't you take a nice big handful of these here Cracker Jack treats?"

"Oh, boy! Will I ever!?," I said. So, I reached into that wonderfully colored box and grabbed a handful of cracker jack. I withdrew my clenched hand, and inside of it sat a brand new miniature bubble gum card, with my favorite player-Hoyt Wilhelm. I leaped out of my seat, the beanie atop my head spun in the wind. As I ripped open the card's wrapper, I shoveled in a mouthful of cracker jack. As soon as I began chewing, I felt ill....was this my dysentery acting up again? I spit out my cracker jack, and there it was-one half-chewed peanut. I immediately vomited all over Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was sitting on my left. I then fell over the lap of one Franklin D. Roosevelt. He removed his bionic legs and strucketh me about the neck and face. When I woke up, I was in quarantine-or "internment" as they said. They interrogated me through a loudpseaker. They thought I had been sent by the Russians to spread a virus through regurgitated peanuts, and other peanut based products. I had only one option. I had to use my powers of flight.

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Old 12-19-2005, 01:21 PM   #21
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A while back, I was at Ebbets Field taking in a ball game with Grampa. He bought a box of cracker jack treats for 3 pence. I asked grampa, "Are those the same cracker jack treats that I saw in the moving picture show?"

Grampa responded, "Why, yes. Since I don't have any more Werther's Original hard-candies, why don't you take a nice big handful of these here Cracker Jack treats?"

"Oh, boy! Will I ever!?," I said. So, I reached into that wonderfully colored box and grabbed a handful of cracker jack. I withdrew my clenched hand, and inside of it sat a brand new miniature bubble gum card, with my favorite player-Hoyt Wilhelm. I leaped out of my seat, the beanie atop my head spun in the wind. As I ripped open the card's wrapper, I shoveled in a mouthful of cracker jack. As soon as I began chewing, I felt ill....was this my dysentery acting up again? I spit out my cracker jack, and there it was-one half-chewed peanut. I immediately vomited all over Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was sitting on my left. I then fell over the lap of one Franklin D. Roosevelt. He removed his bionic legs and strucketh me about the neck and face. When I woke up, I was in quarantine-or "internment" as they said. They interrogated me through a loudpseaker. They thought I had been sent by the Russians to spread a virus through regurgitated peanuts, and other peanut based products. I had only one option. I had to use my powers of flight.

where is that from, it sound familiar.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:56 PM   #22
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I think partly. Childhood asthma and allergies are one the rise, but I'm not a medical expert and can't explain the whys and wherefores.

But I think some of the prevalence of the rise in incidents has as much to do with access as anything else. Back in my day, we certainly home candies and such at school from time to time, but nothing like what goes on these days. There are more opportunities for things to go wrong.
Well, childhood asthma keeps getting linked to increased air polution. Allergies, not sure.

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Old 12-19-2005, 02:43 PM   #23
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I asked her if she eats ice cream, and she says that she sometimes does, even though she's allergic. All she gets when she eats this stuff is some indigestion and possibly diahrrea. I guess by that standard I'm allergic to Mexican food.
lol, and me to a 12 pack of beer and White Castles.

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Old 03-05-2006, 01:58 PM   #24
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Looks like initial reports were way off base:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html
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But he said the teen didn't use her syringe to give herself a shot of Adrenalin because she didn't have an allergic reaction to peanut butter.
Foul play maybe?
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I thought Wrongway was back for a moment.
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Old 03-05-2006, 08:44 PM   #27
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Looks like initial reports were way off base:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html
Boy, the odds on them being accurate were only about 10000:1

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