The 2006 College Football Recruiting Thread

[Cuckoo]

I know we had one last year that was bumped recently, but I don't think I've seen any discussions so far this year. How is your team doing so far and what do you expect?



As for OU, Scout has them 6th right now while Rivals has them 8th. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with several of their players. They've pulled in a lot of offensive line help with a couple of JUCO guys and some talented freshmen like Roark. They got a JUCO quarterback to back up Bomar and a freshman quarterback who is a solid pocket-passer. And they have commitments from some really talented guys like Chris Brown (4 star RB) and Dominique Franks (4 star CB).

I think if they are able to pull commitments from DeMarco Murray (22nd overall according to Rivals) and local kid Gerald McCoy (10th overall according to Rivals), this will end up being a great class for OU.

Rumors are Murray is leaning toward OU over USC by a tad, and McCoy has narrowed to 6 but is giving no indication of who's leading.

[vex]

Murray and McCoy are in the bag.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by vexroid

Murray and McCoy are in the bag.

Weren't you the one who said we wouldn't get Reggie Smith last year?

[vex]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Weren't you the one who said we wouldn't get Reggie Smith last year?

Got me. Was I?

[vex]

Dola

I wouldn't doubt that though, seeing as how Smith didn't decide until 2 hours before he signed.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by vexroid

Murray and McCoy are in the bag.

Did someone say Bagman?

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by vexroid

Dola

I wouldn't doubt that though, seeing as how Smith didn't decide until 2 hours before he signed.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...8&postcount=20





Yeah, I remember hoping we'd get him but didn't know for sure. When you said that, I thought you had insider knowledge.

[vex]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...8&postcount=20





Yeah, I remember hoping we'd get him but didn't know for sure. When you said that, I thought you had insider knowledge.

Yeah, I just searched and found that as well

Oh no, definitely no inside info, I just trust what Crabby says.

[MJ4H]

Well, Arkansas was sitting pretty with one of the top 2 QBs in the country verbally committed (Mitch Mustain, Springdale HS, AR). However, a couple of weeks ago, Mustain backed out and said he is entertaining offers from some other schools (primarily, it seems, Notre Dame, though I've heard also such surprising schools as effing Tennessee). There is still a pretty good chance of landing Mustain, though, and it would be one of the biggest signings Arkansas has gotten in a very long time if we did get him. That's pretty much the talk around here these days. Of course, Springdale HS's head coach, Gus Malzahn (sp?) is now Arkansas' offensive coordinator. I think this might help the cause, but it is difficult to tell. It is going to be a long wait.

[IMetTrentGreen]

mustain isn't a big fan of nutts. thats sounds funny. i'd say notre dame is they didnt already have two qbs, so i'd guess tennessee

i am very familiar with a lot of the ou lineman they pulled in, like curtis bailey and trent williams. they won't do shit. that guy from corsicana will be good however. i'll laugh if they get that overrated fat idiot symonette, becuase scout has him so ridiculously overrated. he's just a fat guy playing against 150 lb. white kids. overweight people + kevin wilson = flameout, guaranteed. i do like their skills guys on offense, especially if they get murray, but the oline recieved no help

texas is sick right now. best class mack has signed since vince's class, even with the loss of moody (the best back in the state, a korean barry sanders). defensively, its macks best, easy. only question mark i have is the oline, just becuase i havent seen 3 of the 4 guys other than shitty rivals video. the offensive side hinges on how good the qbs are, i think, since vince will be leaving after this year, leaving us one scholarship qb. but man, i can't wait to see those defensive recruits here. 2 could start right away, and thats saying something

[Noop]

Seminole Report is as follows.
- We lost out on the number 1 player in the country who was a big time lean to our rivals the Florida Gators.
- We are recruiting offensive linemen(About ten last I heard.)
- Defensively we are going to recruit very well.
- Offensively I dislike the Bowden(Jeff and Bobby)
- Our most important recruiting has to be done by ironicly Jeff Bowden and the rest of the coaching staff(except Bobby) on Xaiver Lee. Bobby screwed the pooch big time when he refused to let Xaiver play. Now it looks like Xaiver is going to Texas or some JUCO for a year then he can transfer anywhere he wants.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by IMetTrentGreen

i am very familiar with a lot of the ou lineman they pulled in, like curtis bailey and trent williams. they won't do shit. that guy from corsicana will be good however. i'll laugh if they get that overrated fat idiot symonette, becuase scout has him so ridiculously overrated. he's just a fat guy playing against 150 lb. white kids. overweight people + kevin wilson = flameout, guaranteed. i do like their skills guys on offense, especially if they get murray, but the oline recieved no help

I honestly don't know enough about them to comment. I just know they got several highly rated O-linemen including a 4 star JUCO guy who they say is ready to step in and play pretty quickly. Although I'm not surprised you dogged some of the OU guys, I'll trust your judgment until I see them for myself.

As for Texas, you're absolutely right. I'd say they're a lock for #1 regardless of how the rest shakes out. All the stuff I had seen on Henry told me he's going to be a solid player. He looked really impressive, and I was disappointed he switched from OU.

[IMetTrentGreen]

no, florida, usc, and notre dame will all finish higher than texas since they lost moody and robinson

[IMetTrentGreen]

not that it matters

[waltwal]

i follow cal and so far they are doing very well. they have had good recruiting classes every year since tedford has been the coach and i expect they will be on top 20 this year.

2 things i would like to see on rivals tho. i would like to see how many scholarships a team has available and i would like to see rivals rate a recruiting class by average points rather than total points. a team that has 25 scholarships to give that has an average of 3.00 is rated higher than a team that has 15 scholarships to give and has an average of 3.25. i think the 15 scholarship team should be ranked higher.

[bhlloy]

USC is going to have a monster class at RB, S and LB, but people are slightly worried about the lack of class on the OL and DL.

Demarco Murray is as good as gone to OU, SC won't guarantee him a spot at RB.

I'd love to know where you got the information about Gerald McCoy, all that I've been hearing is that SC and ND are the smart choices there.

This years class hinges on Derrick Hill and McCoy at DT (Hill is a strong Cal lean) and getting at least one (preferably two) of Schilling, Butch Young and Andre Smith on the OL. Schilling doesn't look interested but the other two have SC in their top two schools.

[scooper]

Charlie Weis is kicking ass on the trail. He's probably turning away #1 Mitch Mustain, if that tells you anything.

Oh, and McCoy may end up at OU, but it's anything but "in the bag." No inside info here, but reading between the lines, the Irish are very much still in it. They need a DT in this class and have stopped recruiting most others. On the surface they have three spots available and other recruits have said the coaches have told them they are taken. It is speculated that McCoy holds one of those spots.

ND is doing well and will finish probably 2nd or 3rd. Most importantly, they have filled a huge need at OL, where the last two classes have netted exactly ZERO players. Thanks, Ty.

[MacroGuru]

BYU has the 15th Ranked player in the Nation Pineview QB James Lark.


WR McKay Jacobsen from Carroll HS out of Southlake, TX has commited as well, he is the 52nd ranked....

Other than that we have 2 DB's ranked in the 70's and then about 10 NR's but a couple of 3 stars in the NR's.

It's nothing that will propel us immediately, but I think McKay and Lark will both be beneficial in our Offense.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by scooper

Oh, and McCoy may end up at OU, but it's anything but "in the bag." No inside info here, but reading between the lines, the Irish are very much still in it. They need a DT in this class and have stopped recruiting most others. On the surface they have three spots available and other recruits have said the coaches have told them they are taken. It is speculated that McCoy holds one of those spots.

I'm assuming bhlloy's question was meant for vex about Gerald McCoy, based on the comment that he's in the bag for OU. Based on all the interviews I've read, I would agree with scooper. The guy has done a very good job of not letting out how he's leaning, but I think Notre Dame might have the edge because of academics. The guy is sharp, and that's really important to him. I haven't heard anyone say USC, although the Trojans are on his list. I'm hearing the bet is he'll choose either Notre Dame because of academics or OU because of proximity.

My money's on Notre Dame right now, but again, he hasn't given much of a clue so far.

IMTG: That's interesting. I admit to not reading a lot about Texas but the few overall reports I have read talked about Texas having the best class overall, even if USC and Notre Dame jump up as expected.

[dawgfan]

Ty Willie is having mixed success so far in his first full season of recruiting for Washington.

The positives: Ty has commitments from 3 of the top 5 in-state guys this year in QB Jake Locker, DL Cameron Elisara and OL Ryan Tolar. He also has a commitment from one of the top Cali RB's in James Montgomery, though he'll need to stay on that one as his parents want him to go to Cal. He signed one of the top JC WR's in Marcel Reese, helping fill a void left by the departure of talented but poorly motivated WR Craig Chambers. He also signed a pretty good MLB/DE JC prospect in Anthony Atkins.

The negatives: He lost out on a pretty good JC CB in Coye Francies who committed to the UW then switched and signed with Oregon State. CB is a position of dire need for the Huskies, and so far we've got a mediocre JC signing in Jordan Murchison (he wasn't even a starter) and some RB/Athlete types that we'll have to convert to CB. He also lost out on Husky legacy Taylor Mays to USC (his dad Stafford was a Husky under Don James in the late '70's/early 80's and currently works for Microsoft) and couldn't maintain early interest from top prospects like LB Allen Bradford and CB Shareece Wright. He also missed out early on top in-state S prospect Andy Mattingly to rival Washington State.

Willingham has some nice sleepers in his commitments, including LB Donald Butler who impressed Husky coaches in their summer camp.

Locker was a huge get - he's one of the top QB recruits in the country and is a guy that could easily be a 4-year starter after redshirting. Elisara was another big get - a stud interior DL prospect. Reece fills a big need at WR. Another DL commit is De'Shon Matthews, a 4-star guy rated the #26 DT prospect by Scout.com. He'll need to gain weight to play in the interior, but he's obviously pretty highly regarded.

There are still some big targets left on the board for Willingham that will determine if this is simply a decent class or a very good one. The biggest is OL Steve Schilling, an in-state guy that is one of the top-rated OL prospects in the country (#3 by Scout.com). He's also considering Cal, USC and Michigan, but the feeling is that the Huskies have the inside track - they also signed his teammates J.R. Hasty and E.J. Savannah last year (not coincidentally the two top recruits in last year's class) and are building a strong connection with the powerhouse Bellevue H.S. program.

Willingham also still has a shot at highly rated WR Jamere Holland and is doing well with RB/Ath Rodney Glass and OL Cody Pope. The rest of the prospects on the board are mid-level 3-star guys.

The Huskies are currently ranked with the #31 class by Scout, #23 if sorted by average star rating. If they finish in a similar position, that will be a pretty impressive job done considering the Huskies are coming off 1-10 and 2-9 seasons.

[Galaril]

ND is having an excellent recruiting season so far. Getting James Aldridge , the # 4 RB nation wide is huge as well as Demetrius Jones,QB, # 2 dual threat QB nation wide and the 2nd best TE, Konrad Reuland. They also got the 3rd best center and cornerback overall. This is in addition to the Mitch
Mustain rumors and #6 QB, Zach Fraser.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

BYU has the 15th Ranked player in the Nation Pineview QB James Lark.


WR McKay Jacobsen from Carroll HS out of Southlake, TX has commited as well, he is the 52nd ranked....

Other than that we have 2 DB's ranked in the 70's and then about 10 NR's but a couple of 3 stars in the NR's.

It's nothing that will propel us immediately, but I think McKay and Lark will both be beneficial in our Offense.

McKay will be huge next Season as he will probably be the most viable big play threat with Watkins gone and Austin Collie not due back until next year......I watched some film on Lark and he is very impressive, if he doesn't go on a mission he should battle Max Hall for the starting job in 2007. He could be great with a solid O-line, which BYU should have for the next few years. At Pine View he was running for his life alot this last Season and still had a solid year.......Tico Pringle was a big JC pickup and will start next year, Mike Hague was very much under the radar going into this Season but had a breakout Senior Season.............BYU is also still in the hunt for Stanley Havili, who is probably the best RB prospect to ever come out of Utah and has been offered by USC.

[MrBug708]

Speaking of QB's on missions and coming back, any secrets info I should know on Ben Olson? It should be his job next year

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Speaking of QB's on missions and coming back, any secrets info I should know on Ben Olson? It should be his job next year

Has all the Tools in the World, was rusty (as would be expected) in Spring drills from what I heard, but he is the real deal, big, athletic and huge arm. He was actually graded as BYU's best recruit ever by many.....wish he had stayed but I still wish him well....unlike most of the bitter Bastards on the BYU message boards

You will be happy with him when all is said and done.....and as an added bonus UCLA is coming up on BYU's schedule....2007 I believe.

[MrBug708]

They were on the schedule for this year but they backed out and we had to put in Rice instead

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

They were on the schedule for this year but they backed out and we had to put in Rice instead

Yeah we went with Eastern Illinois instead

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Has all the Tools in the World, was rusty (as would be expected) in Spring drills from what I heard, but he is the real deal, big, athletic and huge arm. He was actually graded as BYU's best recruit ever by many.....wish he had stayed but I still wish him well....unlike most of the bitter Bastards on the BYU message boards

You will be happy with him when all is said and done.....and as an added bonus UCLA is coming up on BYU's schedule....2007 I believe.

Couple of negative things, his parents tend to stick their noses into his life and the program. Also, he threw a temper tantrum in practice because one of the recruits were whipping the balls around better than he was.

He does have the tools and I hope he does well, it did feel like a kick in the nuts when he left, especially after coming out and saying he was coming back, it's why a lot of the haters are out there on the messageboards

[larrymcg421]

Vidal Hazelton, #2 WR in the country is announcing in about 20 minutes. He is down to Miami, Penn State, and USC, although word is that he won't be picking Miami. Sucks because Miami is in desperate need of WR's at this point.

[bhlloy]

Insiders on both PSU and USC boards are both calling Hazelton to their team. Should be interesting.

Won't be that devastated if we don't get him, because assuming Steve Smith doesn't leave to become a second day pick we still have Jarrett, Smith and last years #1 WR Patrick Turner, but you can never have enough quality at reciever. Would be a very nice pickup after Harvin and Eugene dropped us.

[bhlloy]

DOLA - Hazelton to USC

[cartman]

Recruiting just got exponentially harder against Mack Brown. The biggest stick used was that he couldn't get Texas over the hump and win a big game, much less a conference or national championship. That approach has worked very well in the past. Not so much any more.

[MrBug708]

Does he really go out of the midwest that often though?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Does he really go out of the midwest that often though?

Has he had to?

[ShaefIllini]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Does he really go out of the midwest that often though?

I would have to imagine he would now.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Does he really go out of the midwest that often though?

Delayed non-dola,

The past two seasons, OU and LSU took a top recruit away from UT at the end of the recruiting cycle. Both Ryan Perilloux and Adrian Peterson were leaning hard towards UT, but both gave the same response as to why they didn't want to go to UT: they wanted the chance to win a national championship. That cannot be held over recruits anymore as a reason not to go to Texas.

[Cuckoo]

Eh, I don't buy it. I haven't bought it when all the OU fans said we shouldn't root for Texas because of recruiting. Texas always recruits well, and they always will. They'll get the bulk of the players from Texas. The effect on the RRS will be next to nothing.

People say Peterson chose OU because of the chance to win championships. Possibly, that's true. But OU also had a wide open competition at running back while Texas had Benson. Peterson wanted to play right away, and according to interviews, he liked Bob Stoops' personality better than Mack Brown's.

Will OU have to use something else in their recruiting trips now? Yeah, probably. Will it have much of an impact? I don't see it.

[Cuckoo]

There are rumors that Gerald McCoy has cut his list to 3: LSU, USC and Oklahoma.

[vex]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

There are rumors that Gerald McCoy has cut his list to 3: LSU, USC and Oklahoma.

You really need to suscribe to SoonerScoop.com

[scooper]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

There are rumors that Gerald McCoy has cut his list to 3: LSU, USC and Oklahoma.

This coincides with the rumors of Butch Lewis to ND. The Irish have three spots. The worst kept secret in San Antonio this week is Carufel's silent to ND. That leaves two. One for Sam Young if he wants it. The other for Lewis or McCoy. The rumor is Lewis decided first and took it.

If Young opts for Penn St. which is making a push, that other spot at ND opens up for WR Terrence Austin or #1 QB Mitch Mustain-who almost seems to be publicly lobbying for it.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by vexroid

You really need to suscribe to SoonerScoop.com

I'm assuming this means that was old news. Sorry, I just read it this morning.

I had to cut out excess expenses a couple of years ago, and unfortunately, subscriptions to magazines and/or websites were the first to go. I'd love to get the info from SoonerScoop, but I'm too poor to pay for it.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I read somewhere that a running back by the name of Carlos Brown recently committed to the University of Michigan. Apparently he's supposed to be pretty good.

[dawgfan]

Update on Washington recruiting:

RB Stafon Johnson, the #2 rated RB by Scout.com has scheduled an official visit with the Huskies for the weekend following Saturday's Army All-American Bowl. Apparently his mother is a H.S. classmate of Huskies WR coach Eric Yarber. He also has official visits tentatively lined up with Georgia and Florida and camped with USC this past Summer. UCLA and Cal are also on his list.

Landing Johnson is probably a longshot, but if Ty can do so, it would be a huge get for a team coming off of 1-10 and 2-9 seasons. The last time Washington landed RB's this highly rated out of California was back in the midst of their '90-'92 run when they grabbed Tommie Smith (who converted to S) and Napoleon Kaufman.

[Rich1033]

Originally Posted by scooper

This coincides with the rumors of Butch Lewis to ND. The Irish have three spots. The worst kept secret in San Antonio this week is Carufel's silent to ND. That leaves two. One for Sam Young if he wants it. The other for Lewis or McCoy. The rumor is Lewis decided first and took it.

If Young opts for Penn St. which is making a push, that other spot at ND opens up for WR Terrence Austin or #1 QB Mitch Mustain-who almost seems to be publicly lobbying for it.

Dont count Michigan out for Young just yet.

[Galaxy]

Any good free sites that talk about recruiting?

How is Nebraska and Michigan State doing? Will Nebraska take a step foward towards returning to national contention next year?

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Update on Washington recruiting:

RB Stafon Johnson, the #2 rated RB by Scout.com has scheduled an official visit with the Huskies for the weekend following Saturday's Army All-American Bowl. Apparently his mother is a H.S. classmate of Huskies WR coach Eric Yarber. He also has official visits tentatively lined up with Georgia and Florida and camped with USC this past Summer. UCLA and Cal are also on his list.

Landing Johnson is probably a longshot, but if Ty can do so, it would be a huge get for a team coming off of 1-10 and 2-9 seasons. The last time Washington landed RB's this highly rated out of California was back in the midst of their '90-'92 run when they grabbed Tommie Smith (who converted to S) and Napoleon Kaufman.

Stafon is considered as close to a lock to USC as is possible AFAIK, although the new visits he has scheduled do worry me slightly. The "experts" on the USC board aren't worried though, to them he's just tripping like most prospects do.

Having said that, pretty strange choice of a trip to Washington (no offense intended) if he has absolutely no interest in going there. It's not like it's a glamour school. That tells me he might have some interest at least in playing for Ty.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Stafon is considered as close to a lock to USC as is possible AFAIK, although the new visits he has scheduled do worry me slightly. The "experts" on the USC board aren't worried though, to them he's just tripping like most prospects do.

Having said that, pretty strange choice of a trip to Washington (no offense intended) if he has absolutely no interest in going there. It's not like it's a glamour school. That tells me he might have some interest at least in playing for Ty.

Yep, I've heard the talk that he's a lock for USC, but any time a guy schedules additional visits to other schools you have to think nothing is set in stone with the kid. The Huskies are in the same situation with RB James Montgomery, an early commit that was seen as a lock, but has since taken an official to Cal and is now considered 50/50 between us and the Bears.

I would be surprised as hell if we landed Stafon - it would speak very highly of Ty's ability to draw certain kids as well as the abilities of recruiting coordinator Chris Tormey (the man responsible for landing our highly rated guys out of SoCal in the late '80's/early '90's like Nip Kaufman and Mark Brunell).

FWIW, Stafon has been quoted in an interview of an interest he has in helping build a program - that's certainly much more possible at Washington right now than any of the other schools he's supposedly considering.

I'm going to assume he goes to USC, and if by some chance the Huskies land him I'll be very happy.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Having said that, pretty strange choice of a trip to Washington (no offense intended) if he has absolutely no interest in going there. It's not like it's a glamour school. That tells me he might have some interest at least in playing for Ty.

Dola - it's painful to realize that this statement is true. Didn't use to be true, but that's what happens when you go 1-10 and 2-9...

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Any good free sites that talk about recruiting?

How is Nebraska and Michigan State doing? Will Nebraska take a step foward towards returning to national contention next year?

I visit a number of forums and newspaper sites, so I tend to get the info from someone who does pay for it on one of the recruiting sites. I don't know of any good ones for free that have any depth of coverage.

Sorry I can't say about Michigan State, but my limited knowledge on Nebraska is that they have done pretty well overall but have lost a couple of key guys that verbally committed and then changed their minds. One of them was a QB who switched to KSU if I remember correctly.

I think Nebraska is going to be better, and they'll continue to improve. The North is weak, so there's no reason to suggest they won't get back to Big 12 Championships. But I think at least for the next couple of years, they'll be behind OU and Texas overall in the Big 12. Of course, that doesn't mean they can't beat either of those two. I'm just speaking of talent level.

[Toddzilla]

Any good QBs left? I hear Virginia Tech had a scholarship open up...

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Dola - it's painful to realize that this statement is true. Didn't use to be true, but that's what happens when you go 1-10 and 2-9...

Heh, sorry dude. For what it's worth I think Ty has started very well and will have you back up around the top of the Pac 10 in a couple of years. Plus if you do get Schilling like you are supposed to, dude is a guy you can build an running game around. He's a monster.

Going back to your original post, I don't think Stafon wants to go to the east coast but his trip to Florida really worries me. Urban Meyer seems to have a very nice anti-USC thing going on with recruits (Both Brandon Antwine and Percy Harvin were reportedly silent commits before visits from Urban) Still Stafon is from LA, so I guess he already knows about the city and location, which is supposed to be Urban's biggest point.