TCB on sale - extended until Monday!

Gary Gorski · 03-13-2006, 02:13 PM

Just in case anyone here has held off on trying TCB, now might be your chance to do so.

"Grey Dog Software is pleased to announce Total College Basketball on Demand. Between 1:30 EST today and March 16 12:00 PM EST, any Total College Basketball purchase will receive a 10% discount."

Poli · 03-13-2006, 03:39 PM

I think I can talk my wife into this purchase on Wednesday.

Gary Gorski · 03-13-2006, 03:50 PM

Absolutely AE - for all you husbands out there who have had the wife walk in the door with yet another pair of shoes or purse because it was on sale this is your chance to get even!!!

astrosfan64 · 03-13-2006, 04:01 PM

Nice to see sale events like this.

Swaggs · 03-13-2006, 04:08 PM

This is kind of a stupid question, but how are the NCAA tournament seedings announced in TCB?

Gary Gorski · 03-13-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

This is kind of a stupid question, but how are the NCAA tournament seedings announced in TCB?

You can either watch a selection show or skip it and just check the brackets out.

mtaystl03 · 03-14-2006, 07:52 PM

OK, you got me. That's not easy to do but you got me.

King of New York · 03-14-2006, 09:16 PM

Hey lurkers thinking of buying this game, version 1.4: You should do it. It's a quality product--as far as sims go, I put it in the same league as FM and EHM as regards enjoyability.

Poli · 03-14-2006, 09:17 PM

I have enjoyed the demo. My wife made a good point to me today, though. I have a lot going on academically right now. A new game would only hinder my progress.

Well, for that matter, so does FOFC.

bbor · 03-14-2006, 09:22 PM

It's Steak and TCB day today!

Swaggs · 03-14-2006, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor

It's Steak and TCB day today!

I think your wife tricked you.

Ajaxab · 03-14-2006, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King of New York

Hey lurkers thinking of buying this game, version 1.4: You should do it. It's a quality product--as far as sims go, I put it in the same league as FM and EHM as regards enjoyability.

That's high praise indeed. Why would you say it's in the same class as FM and EHM?

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 08:24 AM

Quick bump for the morning crowd to remind you that this promo ends at noon tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who has come in to give it a shot at the discounted price - certainly if this promo generates a few more sales than we would have had I think we'll be inclined to try it again with our future titles. We appreciate the support and I especially appreciate the high praise of the King of NY - to be mentioned in the same league as FM and EHM is a massive compliment.

MJ4H · 03-15-2006, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

That's high praise indeed. Why would you say it's in the same class as FM and EHM?

Because it is.

MizzouRah · 03-15-2006, 09:47 AM

I've played it MUCH more than EHM.

Top product from Gary as usual.. see TPB.

Marc Vaughan · 03-15-2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

That's high praise indeed. Why would you say it's in the same class as FM and EHM?

If it helps - I rate it personally ...

Critch · 03-15-2006, 10:09 AM

Make it 25% off and you've got yourself a deal, mister.

cartman · 03-15-2006, 10:12 AM

Ok, what are the odds that Gary starts getting angry PMs from skippy at 12:03pm tomorrow afternoon that he's not getting the discount anymore?

stevew · 03-15-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Ok, what are the odds that Gary starts getting angry PMs from skippy at 12:03pm tomorrow afternoon that he's not getting the discount anymore?

Found the money line for it.
No | +750 trillion
Yes |-4.75 billion trillion.

King of New York · 03-15-2006, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

That's high praise indeed. Why would you say it's in the same class as FM and EHM?

The immersion is there. True, FM and EHM are in a few respects farther along than TCB: the 2D display comes to mind, and FM's player/coach interaction is presently unequalled by any other sim.

But TCB matches up well with FM and EHM in the most important department: you really get a feel for your individual players' strengths and weaknesses. Figuring out how to utilize that power forward's passing talents; how to cover up for that shooting guard who has no interest in playing defence; how to get any sort of production out of that unathletic 7' 2" center: these problems are fun and interesting to deal with.

Recruiting is also a good challenge--and given your squad size, it's quite manageable. I really liked FBCB back in the day, but I inevitably hit on a recruiting formula that got me what I wanted every time. So far, that has not happened with TCB: I really have to scrap to get the guys I want, and I do not always succeed. There's just enough uncertainty in the scouting to give you a few unexpected booms and a fair number of busts, which is how it should be.

Ajaxab · 03-15-2006, 10:51 AM

I know I could download the demo to get the answer to this question, but I figured I'd ask it anyways. How long does it take to get through a game with the 2d display? I've grown accustomed to getting through FM's 50-60 games/year and taking 5-10 minutes per game. Am I looking at taking an hour per game if I use the 2d display for TCB?

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

I know I could download the demo to get the answer to this question, but I figured I'd ask it anyways. How long does it take to get through a game with the 2d display? I've grown accustomed to getting through FM's 50-60 games/year and taking 5-10 minutes per game. Am I looking at taking an hour per game if I use the 2d display for TCB?

Depends what you want to do with the game. If you are just watching the action and set the control of your team prior to the game starting to CPU it doesn't take that long (and there is a speed setting so you can turn up the speed if you want). If you're going to actually sit down to coach the game, make adjustmens, subs etc you'll probably spend 30-40 mins on a game but its all going to depend on how many coaching adjustments you feel you need to make and how much control you want over your subs. If you don't make many adjustments and turn on the auto-sub control you'll get done quicker than that.

MJ4H · 03-15-2006, 11:04 AM

I watch it with speed set at 7-8/10. I usually only call timeouts and make halftime adjustments. Each game takes about 5 minutes. (I will speed up the game if it is not close)

JeeberD · 03-15-2006, 11:22 AM

Oh man, I want this game...

SirFozzie · 03-15-2006, 11:27 AM

Sounds like I'm making a purchase tonight

MizzouRah · 03-15-2006, 11:35 AM

I watch most of the important games and always the first game of the season. I turn on auto-subs and turn off pause at stoppages. I also use a speed of 8 and the game flows quite nicely.

jbmagic · 03-15-2006, 11:43 AM

How come when you have offensive freedom frequency set to 0%,
it sometimes shows current play: NONE on the bottom of the play by play screen?

Shouldn't it run my offensive sets that I pick in team strategy?

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

How come when you have offensive freedom frequency set to 0%,
it sometimes shows current play: NONE on the bottom of the play by play screen?

Shouldn't it run my offensive sets that I pick in team strategy?

Well it just means that for whatever reason they're not running the set on that play. Could be that the defense switched sets so now they're confused or that some players out there don't have very high proficiency in the set so they're just kind of doing their own thing or that they decided to push the ball up the court anyway even though you told them you don't want them to. Even if you tell your team to slow it down and run sets every time there's going to be times when the players push the ball up the court

Swaggs · 03-15-2006, 12:25 PM

I'm in.

Looks like it is going to be much more challenging than I suspected. I started off with Marshall, with hopes of moving up the ladder eventually to WVU, and really struggled with recruiting--eventually running out of money.

I haven't played enough to know if the results of recruiting are going to be "great," but I like the immersion of following players to camps, watching them in games, and, basically, just hounding them to see if I have a shot with them. I think I will enjoy this one--particularly over the next few weeks of March Madness.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-15-2006, 12:48 PM

I really enjoyed this game and need to get back into my dynasty with the latest patch..

Critch · 03-15-2006, 01:05 PM

Despite my attempts at haggling down the price being ignored, I'll probably be whipping out the credit card when I get home too.

stevew · 03-15-2006, 01:08 PM

Just think, you can buy the game, and still have tree fiddy left over to give to the Lockaness Monster.

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critch

Despite my attempts at haggling down the price being ignored, I'll probably be whipping out the credit card when I get home too.

Aw Critch, I wasn't ignoring you - just figuring out how I would feed my family unless I made $16 million off the game. Cutting the price another 15% would have cut into the grocery budget man

Jon · 03-15-2006, 01:37 PM

Does the new patch affect saved seasons? Or do I need to restart a season? After installing the new patch, I still notice that power conferences are still being bunched up in the same region. In one region, the top three seeds were big east teams, and, in another, an acc team played an acc team in the first round.

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 01:56 PM

There's no need to restart seasons after a patch. Im still working on the patch that is going to attempt the issue of conference teams playing each other in the first round

Coffee Warlord · 03-15-2006, 02:18 PM

Grr. Just bought GalCivII, and now i'm gonna wind up buying this as well.

Karlifornia · 03-15-2006, 02:53 PM

Ok, I'm buying this.

Icy · 03-15-2006, 02:59 PM

One of the games of the year in my opinion, a must have for those who has not purchased it yet, even more with the discounted price now.

Coffee Warlord · 03-15-2006, 03:06 PM

Gots to read me the review thread on it here. I just sorta missed this one entirely, which is surprising.

Gary Gorski · 03-15-2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

One of the games of the year in my opinion, a must have for those who has not purchased it yet, even more with the discounted price now.

Thanks Icy - I appreciate the compliment

John Galt · 03-15-2006, 03:12 PM

I just tried the demo again, but I still can't get into it. Am I missing something or is recruiting way too time consuming and tedious? It seems like I spend more time filling two scholarships in TCB than I do filling 20 in BBCF. Just going through the screens to watch my 10 game films every week seems to take forever because you have to do a few clicks for each selection. And then I wasn't sure if I had to keep recruiting after I got verbals. So, I did as a precaution which took even more time. It just seems like a whole lot of clicking to do very little.

ScottVib · 03-15-2006, 03:28 PM

While I may be a bit biased given my relationship with Grey Dog, I have played this game more then any other I have since mid-way through the beta to now.

I play out each game (5-15 minutes for each depending on how close the game is I play with speed set to 9) and really get into it. One of the things that helped me get used to who is who on the 2d was to record wave files of my teams names, putting those in the sounds folder will cause the announcer to say your players names after they score during home games (helps early in a career when all 12 guys are new).

Easily my number one most enjoyable game since Thanksgiving or so (during beta).

Critch · 03-15-2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Grr. Just bought GalCivII, and now i'm gonna wind up buying this as well.

"Grr. Just bought GalCivII" doesn't make sense. It should be "Woohoo!! Just bought GalCivII", because it super-splendiferous.

TheOhioStateUniversity · 03-15-2006, 07:13 PM

Quick questions:

1. Can you heavily recruit a player and he decides to go to the NBA, like the situation with Louisville and Telfair?

2. Do players on your team declare early for the draft?

3. Does the game tell you where your players are drafted and does having alot of NBA players affect your coaching reputation with recruits?

4. Is there a bubble watch?

5. Are there transfers can players become disgrutled with lack of playing time and such.

Thanks

King of New York · 03-15-2006, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt

I just tried the demo again, but I still can't get into it. Am I missing something or is recruiting way too time consuming and tedious? It seems like I spend more time filling two scholarships in TCB than I do filling 20 in BBCF. Just going through the screens to watch my 10 game films every week seems to take forever because you have to do a few clicks for each selection. And then I wasn't sure if I had to keep recruiting after I got verbals. So, I did as a precaution which took even more time. It just seems like a whole lot of clicking to do very little.

John, I've played BBCF too, and recruiting is much more labor-intensive in BBCF than in TCB, I think. To cut down on the grunt work in TCB, try the following: 1) Game films are useful when you are first sizing up players to bring to campus, but after you have watched film on a guy for three weeks or so, there's no need to do it any more--by that point, you'll be attending their games, bringing them to your campus, etc. 2) Once I get verbals, I stop recruiting. There is a fair amount of clicking at the start of each new recruiting session, but once you have added a load of players to your watch list, it moves a lot faster.

King of New York · 03-15-2006, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOhioStateUniversity

Quick questions:

1. Can you heavily recruit a player and he decides to go to the NBA, like the situation with Louisville and Telfair?

2. Do players on your team declare early for the draft?

3. Does the game tell you where your players are drafted and does having alot of NBA players affect your coaching reputation with recruits?

4. Is there a bubble watch?

5. Are there transfers can players become disgrutled with lack of playing time and such.

Thanks

TOSU, I can answer four and five for you: yes and yes. The bad news about the transfer sessions--and this is one of the few gentle criticisms that I have of the game--is that the game slows down considerably at that point. The good news, though, is that I have found the number of players transferring into and out of my program to be just about right. Each player has a rating for the amount of playing time that he expects. If you wind up with two guys at the same position who think that they should be playing 30+ minutes, one of those guys is probably going to leave. I cannot answer questions 1, 2, and 3, because I play with lower-tier programs--no pros come out of those schools.

jbmagic · 03-15-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOhioStateUniversity

Quick questions:

1. Can you heavily recruit a player and he decides to go to the NBA, like the situation with Louisville and Telfair?

2. Do players on your team declare early for the draft?

3. Does the game tell you where your players are drafted and does having alot of NBA players affect your coaching reputation with recruits?

4. Is there a bubble watch?

5. Are there transfers can players become disgrutled with lack of playing time and such.

Thanks

Try the demo out. You will be amaze how solid the game is

astrosfan64 · 03-15-2006, 07:53 PM

I have to agree this is a fantastic simulation.

HerRealName · 03-15-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOhioStateUniversity

Quick questions:

1. Can you heavily recruit a player and he decides to go to the NBA, like the situation with Louisville and Telfair?

Haven't you heard of Greg Oden?

HS kids have to spend a year in college now, it is the same in TCB. Players do declare early for the NBA.

TheOhioStateUniversity · 03-15-2006, 08:02 PM

I tried the Demo one time but it kept crashing on me, is the demo updated with the newest patches or not? If so I may give it another go. Also if someone could answer the questions King of New York couldnt I would appreciate it.

03-13-2006, 03:39 PM	#2
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I think I can talk my wife into this purchase on Wednesday. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-13-2006, 03:50 PM	#3
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Absolutely AE - for all you husbands out there who have had the wife walk in the door with yet another pair of shoes or purse because it was on sale this is your chance to get even!!! __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

03-13-2006, 04:08 PM	#5
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	This is kind of a stupid question, but how are the NCAA tournament seedings announced in TCB? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-14-2006, 07:52 PM	#7
mtaystl03 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO	OK, you got me. That's not easy to do but you got me. __________________ Go STL Sports!

03-14-2006, 09:16 PM	#8
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	Hey lurkers thinking of buying this game, version 1.4: You should do it. It's a quality product--as far as sims go, I put it in the same league as FM and EHM as regards enjoyability. __________________ Input A No Input

03-13-2006, 04:01 PM	#4
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	Nice to see sale events like this.

03-14-2006, 09:17 PM	#9
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I have enjoyed the demo. My wife made a good point to me today, though. I have a lot going on academically right now. A new game would only hinder my progress. Well, for that matter, so does FOFC. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-14-2006, 09:22 PM	#10
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	It's Steak and TCB day today! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-15-2006, 08:24 AM	#13
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	Quick bump for the morning crowd to remind you that this promo ends at noon tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who has come in to give it a shot at the discounted price - certainly if this promo generates a few more sales than we would have had I think we'll be inclined to try it again with our future titles. We appreciate the support and I especially appreciate the high praise of the King of NY - to be mentioned in the same league as FM and EHM is a massive compliment. __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

03-15-2006, 09:47 AM	#15
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I've played it MUCH more than EHM. Top product from Gary as usual.. see TPB.

03-15-2006, 10:09 AM	#17
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Make it 25% off and you've got yourself a deal, mister.

03-15-2006, 10:12 AM	#18
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Ok, what are the odds that Gary starts getting angry PMs from skippy at 12:03pm tomorrow afternoon that he's not getting the discount anymore? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-15-2006, 10:51 AM	#21
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	I know I could download the demo to get the answer to this question, but I figured I'd ask it anyways. How long does it take to get through a game with the 2d display? I've grown accustomed to getting through FM's 50-60 games/year and taking 5-10 minutes per game. Am I looking at taking an hour per game if I use the 2d display for TCB?

03-15-2006, 11:04 AM	#23
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I watch it with speed set at 7-8/10. I usually only call timeouts and make halftime adjustments. Each game takes about 5 minutes. (I will speed up the game if it is not close) Last edited by MJ4H : 03-15-2006 at 11:04 AM.

03-15-2006, 11:22 AM	#24
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Oh man, I want this game... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-15-2006, 11:27 AM	#25
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Sounds like I'm making a purchase tonight __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-15-2006, 11:35 AM	#26
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I watch most of the important games and always the first game of the season. I turn on auto-subs and turn off pause at stoppages. I also use a speed of 8 and the game flows quite nicely.

03-15-2006, 11:43 AM	#27
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	How come when you have offensive freedom frequency set to 0%, it sometimes shows current play: NONE on the bottom of the play by play screen? Shouldn't it run my offensive sets that I pick in team strategy?

03-15-2006, 12:25 PM	#29
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm in. Looks like it is going to be much more challenging than I suspected. I started off with Marshall, with hopes of moving up the ladder eventually to WVU, and really struggled with recruiting--eventually running out of money. I haven't played enough to know if the results of recruiting are going to be "great," but I like the immersion of following players to camps, watching them in games, and, basically, just hounding them to see if I have a shot with them. I think I will enjoy this one--particularly over the next few weeks of March Madness. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-15-2006, 12:48 PM	#30
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I really enjoyed this game and need to get back into my dynasty with the latest patch.. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-15-2006, 01:05 PM	#31
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Despite my attempts at haggling down the price being ignored, I'll probably be whipping out the credit card when I get home too.

03-15-2006, 01:08 PM	#32
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Just think, you can buy the game, and still have tree fiddy left over to give to the Lockaness Monster. Last edited by stevew : 03-15-2006 at 01:09 PM.

03-15-2006, 01:37 PM	#34
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	Does the new patch affect saved seasons? Or do I need to restart a season? After installing the new patch, I still notice that power conferences are still being bunched up in the same region. In one region, the top three seeds were big east teams, and, in another, an acc team played an acc team in the first round.

03-15-2006, 01:56 PM	#35
Gary Gorski Wolverine Studios Join Date: Oct 2003	There's no need to restart seasons after a patch. Im still working on the patch that is going to attempt the issue of conference teams playing each other in the first round __________________ Wolverine Studios http://www.wolverinestudios.com

03-15-2006, 02:18 PM	#36
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Grr. Just bought GalCivII, and now i'm gonna wind up buying this as well.

03-15-2006, 02:53 PM	#37
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Ok, I'm buying this. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-15-2006, 02:59 PM	#38
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	One of the games of the year in my opinion, a must have for those who has not purchased it yet, even more with the discounted price now. __________________ Last edited by Icy : 03-15-2006 at 02:59 PM.

03-15-2006, 03:06 PM	#39
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Gots to read me the review thread on it here. I just sorta missed this one entirely, which is surprising.

03-15-2006, 03:12 PM	#41
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	I just tried the demo again, but I still can't get into it. Am I missing something or is recruiting way too time consuming and tedious? It seems like I spend more time filling two scholarships in TCB than I do filling 20 in BBCF. Just going through the screens to watch my 10 game films every week seems to take forever because you have to do a few clicks for each selection. And then I wasn't sure if I had to keep recruiting after I got verbals. So, I did as a precaution which took even more time. It just seems like a whole lot of clicking to do very little. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

03-15-2006, 03:28 PM	#42
ScottVib High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My Computer	While I may be a bit biased given my relationship with Grey Dog, I have played this game more then any other I have since mid-way through the beta to now. I play out each game (5-15 minutes for each depending on how close the game is I play with speed set to 9) and really get into it. One of the things that helped me get used to who is who on the 2d was to record wave files of my teams names, putting those in the sounds folder will cause the announcer to say your players names after they score during home games (helps early in a career when all 12 guys are new). Easily my number one most enjoyable game since Thanksgiving or so (during beta).

03-15-2006, 07:13 PM	#44
TheOhioStateUniversity High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, GA via Columbus, OH	Quick questions: 1. Can you heavily recruit a player and he decides to go to the NBA, like the situation with Louisville and Telfair? 2. Do players on your team declare early for the draft? 3. Does the game tell you where your players are drafted and does having alot of NBA players affect your coaching reputation with recruits? 4. Is there a bubble watch? 5. Are there transfers can players become disgrutled with lack of playing time and such. Thanks __________________ Buckeyes Football/Basketball >>>> Your Favorite School

03-15-2006, 07:53 PM	#48
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	I have to agree this is a fantastic simulation.

03-15-2006, 08:02 PM	#50
TheOhioStateUniversity High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, GA via Columbus, OH	I tried the Demo one time but it kept crashing on me, is the demo updated with the newest patches or not? If so I may give it another go. Also if someone could answer the questions King of New York couldnt I would appreciate it. __________________ Buckeyes Football/Basketball >>>> Your Favorite School Last edited by TheOhioStateUniversity : 03-15-2006 at 08:02 PM.

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