Sebastian Telfair - Louisville?

st.cronin · 04-08-2006, 03:42 PM

As I'm working on a rather massive school project, I'm sort of half-assed watching this documentary on him, and apparently there were a whole bunch of people who actually believed he might go to college. Is my memory faulty or hadn't he practically declared for the nba draft in the 9th grade? I thought the idea that he had 'committed' to Louisville was taken about as seriously as Lebron 'committing' to Duke.

chinaski · 04-08-2006, 03:54 PM

Yea, youre right. There was no chance of him going to college.

chinaski · 04-08-2006, 03:57 PM

dola
i wish he would have, he could have really used the discipline. He is looking outstanding though the last few weeks. McMillan really should have let him start all year, screw Blake damnit!

st.cronin · 04-08-2006, 04:06 PM

So, surely Rick Pitino knew that? What was the point of that whole charade?

TheOhioStateUniversity · 04-08-2006, 04:34 PM

No, going into his senior year it was not known that his stock would soar like it did. Given that he was an undersized point guard only an incredible season like he had could have propelled him into the lottery. From watching the documentary it seemed clear he was going to head to Louisville until he started putting on awesome performances against the out of state teams in front of pro scouts.

BishopMVP · 04-08-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

dola
i wish he would have, he could have really used the discipline. He is looking outstanding though the last few weeks. McMillan really should have let him start all year, screw Blake damnit!

He was looking outstanding the last few weeks last year... then this year they tried sticking him in a pick and roll offense. It'll probably make him better, and might be necessary, for the long run, but right now his strength is open court transition offense, and the Blazers refused to run that style.

And w/L'ville - what tOSU said

chinaski · 04-08-2006, 04:47 PM

ill have to search the Oregonian, I remember him telling the paper he already made up his mind by the McDonalds game and that Marbury was pushing him to go as well. But its more likely if he wasnt looking to be a first rounder, he'd be going to college.

Young Drachma · 04-08-2006, 04:58 PM

Well, the Adidas deal sealed it, I think. I mean, Pitino probably had people talking to him about it, too. Even Telfair said that Pitino being that well connected helped him a ton and having Telfair sign and not come to school there probably kept Louisville in the news and so, it couldn't have hurt Pitino or anything.

EagleFan · 04-08-2006, 05:30 PM

Didn't the NBA declare that they will not draft someone straight out of high school starting this season's draft? Doesn't that mean that he either has to go to college for a year or sit out a year?

Cap Ologist · 04-08-2006, 05:45 PM

I think you have to be 19 to enter the draft, there's no set waiting period like the nfl has.

st.cronin · 04-08-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

I think you have to be 19 to enter the draft, there's no set waiting period like the nfl has.

I think that's correct. One possible side effect of this is more 'fifth year' high school seniors.

HerRealName · 04-08-2006, 06:04 PM

Actually, the rule is for a year following high school graduation. Age limit is not a factor otherwise OJ Mayo and Bill Walker could go straight to the NBA next year and they cannot.

BishopMVP · 04-08-2006, 08:34 PM

By 5th-year seniors, I think st. cronin means PG's and Prep schools turning into a stepping stone from high school to the NBA rather than players staying back a year at their HS.

Philliesfan980 · 04-08-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

By 5th-year seniors, I think st. cronin means PG's and Prep schools turning into a stepping stone from high school to the NBA rather than players staying back a year at their HS.

If they are going to have to go somewhere for a year, why not just go to College?

timmynausea · 04-08-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

If they are going to have to go somewhere for a year, why not just go to College?

My understanding is that they can get a shoe deal while serving their year at a prep school and then go to the NBA, which obviously would be against NCAA rules.

st.cronin · 04-08-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

By 5th-year seniors, I think st. cronin means PG's and Prep schools turning into a stepping stone from high school to the NBA rather than players staying back a year at their HS.

Yes, that's actually how West Point and some others do their redshirts, since you can't take 5 years to graduate there.

stevew · 04-08-2006, 09:06 PM

Mayo may be able to score a foreign deal for one year for some pretty decent money. Probably depends on the club, but I would think it could be in the low hundred thousands. The club would get a lot of notoriety for having a future NBA prospect having played there.

IMetTrentGreen · 04-09-2006, 03:39 AM

its 19 or one year out of high school. i dont know how they handle prep schools

HerRealName · 04-09-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IMetTrentGreen

its 19 or one year out of high school. i dont know how they handle prep schools

It's 19 AND one year out of high school.

04-08-2006, 04:06 PM	#4
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04-08-2006, 04:34 PM	#5
TheOhioStateUniversity High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, GA via Columbus, OH	No, going into his senior year it was not known that his stock would soar like it did. Given that he was an undersized point guard only an incredible season like he had could have propelled him into the lottery. From watching the documentary it seemed clear he was going to head to Louisville until he started putting on awesome performances against the out of state teams in front of pro scouts. __________________ Buckeyes Football/Basketball >>>> Your Favorite School

04-08-2006, 04:58 PM	#8
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Well, the Adidas deal sealed it, I think. I mean, Pitino probably had people talking to him about it, too. Even Telfair said that Pitino being that well connected helped him a ton and having Telfair sign and not come to school there probably kept Louisville in the news and so, it couldn't have hurt Pitino or anything. __________________ Current dynasty: Playtesting chaos (Viperball 26) \| OOTP Mod: Managerial Strategy Files \| GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

04-08-2006, 03:54 PM	#2
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	Yea, youre right. There was no chance of him going to college.

04-08-2006, 03:57 PM	#3
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	dola i wish he would have, he could have really used the discipline. He is looking outstanding though the last few weeks. McMillan really should have let him start all year, screw Blake damnit!

04-08-2006, 04:47 PM	#7
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	ill have to search the Oregonian, I remember him telling the paper he already made up his mind by the McDonalds game and that Marbury was pushing him to go as well. But its more likely if he wasnt looking to be a first rounder, he'd be going to college.

04-08-2006, 05:30 PM	#9
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Didn't the NBA declare that they will not draft someone straight out of high school starting this season's draft? Doesn't that mean that he either has to go to college for a year or sit out a year?

04-08-2006, 05:45 PM	#10
Cap Ologist College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flower Mound, TX	I think you have to be 19 to enter the draft, there's no set waiting period like the nfl has.

04-08-2006, 06:04 PM	#12
HerRealName College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2002	Actually, the rule is for a year following high school graduation. Age limit is not a factor otherwise OJ Mayo and Bill Walker could go straight to the NBA next year and they cannot.

04-08-2006, 08:34 PM	#13
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	By 5th-year seniors, I think st. cronin means PG's and Prep schools turning into a stepping stone from high school to the NBA rather than players staying back a year at their HS.

04-08-2006, 09:06 PM	#17
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Mayo may be able to score a foreign deal for one year for some pretty decent money. Probably depends on the club, but I would think it could be in the low hundred thousands. The club would get a lot of notoriety for having a future NBA prospect having played there.

04-09-2006, 03:39 AM	#18
IMetTrentGreen College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Austin, Texas	its 19 or one year out of high school. i dont know how they handle prep schools

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