Rediscovering Music

oliegirl · 04-13-2006, 02:06 PM

Last night I was searching for new music for my iPod and downloaded an album I loved in high school and college, but haven't really listened to since then. 10,000 Maniacs - In my Tribe. I listened to it in the car today and realized that I had forgotten how much I loved that album...I like every song on it, and was able to pull the lyrics to over half of them from a dusty corner somewhere in the back of my mind. It got me to thinking: how many other "forgotten" albums are there that we used to listen to that would still hold up to the test of time and provide us with listening pleasure again today?

hawk4669 · 04-13-2006, 02:25 PM

I was always partial to 10,000 Maniacs' "Our Time in Eden", but enjoyed "In My Tribe as Well." Don't listen to them much anymore, but they've always been a guilty pleasure of mine.

As to the topic, being a huge music person, let me give that a tiny bit of thought.

Cheers!

AlexB · 04-13-2006, 02:34 PM

I bought a 60Gb iPod in January, and have been trying to buy my old cassettes on CDs through eBay, Amazon marketplace, etc.

I had about 200-250 old cassettes, junked about 50 of them (Onslaught! Gringos Locos! good grief what was I thinking!) but am trying to get the others. Basically I have'nt opened up these tapes for a long time. As they are all second hand, some are slightly scratched or marked, I've been listening as they come in - not a problem so far on a single one.

And I've had the joy of remembering how good the likes of Burning Tree, Goat, Dogs D'Amour, Suicidal Tendencies, Sisters of Mercy, Crazyhead, hell even Bon Jovi and Poison sound great when you haven't been force fed it over radio and MTV for ten years!

About halfway through now - the ones that are left are tending to be more than the £4 limit per CD I've set myself, so I'll have to work out a different strategy soon.

oliegirl · 04-13-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hawk4669

I was always partial to 10,000 Maniacs' "Our Time in Eden", but enjoyed "In My Tribe as Well." Don't listen to them much anymore, but they've always been a guilty pleasure of mine.

As to the topic, being a huge music person, let me give that a tiny bit of thought.

Cheers!

I've never listened to Our Time in Eden...I'll check it out though. Is it similar to In My Tribe?

When I was listening today I remembered that the first time I heard 10,000 Maniacs was on Saturday Night Live, they did "About the Weather" and I fell in love with the song and bought the cassette, obviously a very very long time ago!

FrogMan · 04-13-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

I bought a 60Gb iPod in January, and have been trying to buy my old cassettes on CDs through eBay, Amazon marketplace, etc.

I had about 200-250 old cassettes, junked about 50 of them (Onslaught! Gringos Locos! good grief what was I thinking!) but am trying to get the others. Basically I have'nt opened up these tapes for a long time. As they are all second hand, some are slightly scratched or marked, I've been listening as they come in - not a problem so far on a single one.

And I've had the joy of remembering how good the likes of Burning Tree, Goat, Dogs D'Amour, Suicidal Tendencies, Sisters of Mercy, Crazyhead, hell even Bon Jovi and Poison sound great when you haven't been force fed it over radio and MTV for ten years!

About halfway through now - the ones that are left are tending to be more than the £4 limit per CD I've set myself, so I'll have to work out a different strategy soon.

oh wow, I thought I was the only one on this planet that liked them so much. Before I changed my car and I was driving my 1994 Dodge Colt with only a cassette player in it, In the Dynamite Jet Saloon was the one older tape that kept coming back in the rotation. Man how I've listened to that tape.

One I used to go back pretty often was from a band called Electric Angels. Not sure if anyone knows them but it's similar to the Dogs D'Amour.

FM

AlexB · 04-13-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

oh wow, I thought I was the only one on this planet that liked them so much. Before I changed my car and I was driving my 1994 Dodge Colt with only a cassette player in it, In the Dynamite Jet Saloon was the one older tape that kept coming back in the rotation. Man how I've listened to that tape.

One I used to go back pretty often was from a band called Electric Angels. Not sure if anyone knows them but it's similar to the Dogs D'Amour.

FM

I went to see them live twice: first time Tyla was so drunk he fell off the stage, the second time they were just plain crap!

But their albums are still great, and neither gig was a waste as both of the support acts were quality, and I bought their CDs (Burning Tree and Under Neath What)

I was such a fan that I even skipped school when they released their limited edition 'Graveyard of Empty Bottles' 10" vinyl-only EP to make sure I got one (originally they pressed 15,000 copies only, each numbered: I have number 4281!)

Great days, great band

Daimyo · 04-13-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

About halfway through now - the ones that are left are tending to be more than the £4 limit per CD I've set myself, so I'll have to work out a different strategy soon.

You might want to check out hxxp://www.allofmp3.com although it is a bit of a legal/ethical grey area.

NoMyths · 04-13-2006, 04:54 PM

I'm a pretty big 10,000 Maniacs fan (or was). Be sure to check out "Our Time in Eden" -- one of the best albums of its period, in my opinion. You won't be disappointed.

Also, be sure to check out Natalie Merchant's solo work -- "Ophelia" is the strongest of her albums, but if you can get past the overly sentimental radio songs (which are uniformly terrible, imo), she's got a lot of really great work.

CamEdwards · 04-13-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo

You might want to check out hxxp://www.allofmp3.com although it is a bit of a legal/ethical grey area.

Screw ethics. I just want to know if the site's secure. I'm not all that thrilled about giving financial information to some foreign website. Have you (or a hypothetical friend) used them for a decent period of time without problems?

Grid Iron · 04-13-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Screw ethics. I just want to know if the site's secure. I'm not all that thrilled about giving financial information to some foreign website. Have you (or a hypothetical friend) used them for a decent period of time without problems?

I suggest getting a virtual credit card number just to be safe and using that.

"What's a virtual credit card number?" Citibank will generate temporary credit card numbers that automatically expire in 30 days which will link purchases to your main card. Also, once the card number is used it can only be used on that site and no other. So, no one can take the virtual card number and use it on a different website than the one on which the original purchase was made.

I don't know if other card companies have virtual card numbers, but I suspect they would have something similar.

Daimyo · 04-13-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Screw ethics. I just want to know if the site's secure. I'm not all that thrilled about giving financial information to some foreign website. Have you (or a hypothetical friend) used them for a decent period of time without problems?

I, uh, have a "friend" who has used them near a year now, but ALWAYS with a virtual credit card number. Shopping on the online without a virtual credit card number is not very smart anymore. Even if you trust a site completely you really would have to trust so much more than that like their network security, the competence of their staff, the security/competence of the firm that stores their backup tapes, their longterm financial stability, etc, etc to ensure your personal info is secure. Working in the infosec field myself, I don't trust anyone (except maybe the banks and CC companies out of necessity) to that extent.

Grid Iron · 04-13-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo

I, uh, have a "friend" who has used them near a year now.

I too have a friend who has used allofmp3.com for around 2 years now and loves it. S/he tells me s/he has never had any problems.

oliegirl · 04-13-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Screw ethics. I just want to know if the site's secure. I'm not all that thrilled about giving financial information to some foreign website. Have you (or a hypothetical friend) used them for a decent period of time without problems?

I've used it for over a year and deposited money onto it about 8 - 10 times now, all in $10 increments so if something were to go wrong, I'm only out $10. I've had no problems. They recently launched a downloadable interface similar to itunes that is great...makes downloading and importing to itunes much simpler than it was before.

CamEdwards · 04-13-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

I've used it for over a year and deposited money onto it about 8 - 10 times now, all in $10 increments so if something were to go wrong, I'm only out $10. I've had no problems. They recently launched a downloadable interface similar to itunes that is great...makes downloading and importing to itunes much simpler than it was before.

You mean your hypothetical friend, right?

Ryan S · 04-13-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Screw ethics. I just want to know if the site's secure. I'm not all that thrilled about giving financial information to some foreign website. Have you (or a hypothetical friend) used them for a decent period of time without problems?

While you can't use paypal on the allofmp3.com site, you can buy an "xrost prepaid icard" with your paypal account then you can use that to pay for allofmp3.

CamEdwards · 04-13-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

While you can't use paypal on the allofmp3.com site, you can buy an "xrost prepaid icard" with your paypal account then you can use that to pay for allofmp3.

I saw that. Of course I have no idea what the hell "xrost" is anymore than I do allofmp3.com, or whether or not they're any safer. :P

And of course my stupid bank doesn't DO virtual credit card numbers. I think I'll probably just bite the bullet and plug in ten bucks.

Ryan S · 04-13-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

I saw that. Of course I have no idea what the hell "xrost" is anymore than I do allofmp3.com, or whether or not they're any safer. :P

And of course my stupid bank doesn't DO virtual credit card numbers. I think I'll probably just bite the bullet and plug in ten bucks.

You pay xrost with paypal so you are not giving them your credit card number.

oliegirl · 04-13-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

You mean your hypothetical friend, right?

Of course! That is what I meant to say...

amdaily · 04-13-2006, 09:09 PM

I've been using allmp3.mp3.com with my CC for over a year. Perfectly safe.

RPI-Fan · 04-13-2006, 09:29 PM

This has me thinking...

From my days of making cassette mixes (and CD's, to some extent)... I get certain strings of songs "attached" because they came one after another. So when I hear one song I honestly except to hear the next one from the tape, after it.

Anyone else have this?

FrogMan · 04-13-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

This has me thinking...

From my days of making cassette mixes (and CD's, to some extent)... I get certain strings of songs "attached" because they came one after another. So when I hear one song I honestly except to hear the next one from the tape, after it.

Anyone else have this?

Happened and still happens to me all the time.

I remember dubbing Appetite for Destruction and it wouldn't fit one side of a 90 minute tape so it would cut in the middle of Rocket Queen and I'd know exactly where a split second before it would happen...

I try listening to some of my CDs with the shuffle one every once in a while now to kind of kill that effect...

FM

04-13-2006, 02:25 PM	#2
hawk4669 High School JV Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern California	I was always partial to 10,000 Maniacs' "Our Time in Eden", but enjoyed "In My Tribe as Well." Don't listen to them much anymore, but they've always been a guilty pleasure of mine. As to the topic, being a huge music person, let me give that a tiny bit of thought. Cheers! __________________ Hawk4669 www.hbfire.org

04-13-2006, 02:34 PM	#3
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	I bought a 60Gb iPod in January, and have been trying to buy my old cassettes on CDs through eBay, Amazon marketplace, etc. I had about 200-250 old cassettes, junked about 50 of them (Onslaught! Gringos Locos! good grief what was I thinking!) but am trying to get the others. Basically I have'nt opened up these tapes for a long time. As they are all second hand, some are slightly scratched or marked, I've been listening as they come in - not a problem so far on a single one. And I've had the joy of remembering how good the likes of Burning Tree, Goat, Dogs D'Amour, Suicidal Tendencies, Sisters of Mercy, Crazyhead, hell even Bon Jovi and Poison sound great when you haven't been force fed it over radio and MTV for ten years! About halfway through now - the ones that are left are tending to be more than the £4 limit per CD I've set myself, so I'll have to work out a different strategy soon. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 04-13-2006 at 02:35 PM.

04-13-2006, 09:09 PM	#19
amdaily College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003	I've been using allmp3.mp3.com with my CC for over a year. Perfectly safe. Last edited by amdaily : 04-13-2006 at 09:09 PM.

04-13-2006, 09:29 PM	#20
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	This has me thinking... From my days of making cassette mixes (and CD's, to some extent)... I get certain strings of songs "attached" because they came one after another. So when I hear one song I honestly except to hear the next one from the tape, after it. Anyone else have this? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

04-13-2006, 04:54 PM	#8
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	I'm a pretty big 10,000 Maniacs fan (or was). Be sure to check out "Our Time in Eden" -- one of the best albums of its period, in my opinion. You won't be disappointed. Also, be sure to check out Natalie Merchant's solo work -- "Ophelia" is the strongest of her albums, but if you can get past the overly sentimental radio songs (which are uniformly terrible, imo), she's got a lot of really great work.

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