Goth Yutes

[Flasch186]

So can you say that the Goth lifestyle is a cry for help and someone should step in? if so when? how? what do you say? can one step in?


"Goth" youths more likely to self-harm: study

Mon Apr 17, 8:24 AM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Young people who adopt the "Goth" lifestyle of dark clothes and introspective music are more likely to commit self-harm or attempt suicide than other youngsters, according to a study on Friday.


"Although only fairly small numbers of young people identify themselves as belonging to the Goth subculture, rates of self-harm and attempted suicide are very high among this group," said Robert Young, lead researcher of the Glasgow University study.

The Scottish team described Goths as being a subgenre of Punk "with a dark and sinister aesthetic, with aficionados conspicuous by their range of distinctive clothing and makeup and tastes in music."

Shock rockers such as Marilyn Manson are said to be popular amongst Goths and the subculture has often attracted suspicion and criticism from the media.

Two U.S. students who massacred 13 people at Columbine High School in Colorado in 1999 were said to have been fascinated by the Goth image.

The Glasgow researchers studied of 1,258 young people who were quizzed at the ages of 11, 13, 15 and 19 about self harm and their links to various youth cultures.

In the UK, the rate of self harm among young people is between 7-14 percent.

Although other subcultures were associated with self harm, such as Punk, the link was strongest with Goths.

The study, published in the British Medical Journal, found that 53 percent of those who were linked to the Goth subculture reported self-harm and 47 percent had attempted suicide.

Even adjusting for other factors, such as alcohol abuse and previous depression, Goth identification was the strongest predictor of self harm or suicide attempts, the report said.

"One common suggestion is they may be copying subcultural icons or peers," Young said.

"But since our study found that more reported self-harm before, rather than after, becoming a Goth, this suggests that young people with a tendency to self-harm are attracted to the Goth subculture."

Michael van Beinum, a child-and-adolescent psychiatrist, said the Goth subculture might be attractive to young people with mental health problems, allowing them to find a community where their distress might be more easily understood.

[Franklinnoble]

In other news, people who smoke cigarettes are more likely to get lung cancer.

[Cringer]

"Goth" lifestyle of dark clothes and introspective music

That's a piss poor definition.

[Marc Vaughan]

Being the ultimate cynic that I am (and being an ex-goth believe it or not ) I'd say that unless the actual suicide rates mirror these 'figures' then its totally fubar.

Surveys aren't wholly reliable at the best of times, let alone when you're talking with teenagers, what it probably shows is that people with a Goth image are more comfortable talking about negative aspects and possibly even exagerrating the negative whereas other 'types' of youth culture would probably be less inclined to do so (ie. it'd be considered acceptable to indicate self-harm if you're a Goth, if you were a jock on the other hand it'd be a no-no).

(when I was a kid most 'Goths' I knew were fairly cheerful chaps like myself and we saw the clothes style as rebellious but mainly somewhat ironic, the music was (and some stilll is ) imho fairly cool)

[Izulde]

This article sucks. Don't they know there's entire subsets of goth culture, each with different musical, dress, and philosophical tastes?

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Izulde

This article sucks. Don't they know there's entire subsets of goth culture, each with different musical, dress, and philosophical tastes?

Most notable of those being the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths.

[Flasch186]

you got me on that one cringe I laughed out loud, quietly so as to not wake anyone up.

[Joe]

whats a Yute?

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

whats a Yute?

Two what? What was that word? Did you say 'two yutes'?

[fantastic flying froggies]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Most notable of those being the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths.

lol

[JS19]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Two what? What was that word? Did you say 'two yutes'?

yea, two yutes....what?....oh, im sorry, two YOUTHS. (something along those lines anyhow)

I agree with the whole surveys not being the most reliable of sources among teens. I remember all those surveys we were given back in high school and i can gurantee those were not close to being accurate.

[King of New York]

Surveys are the greatest.

There's nothing I enjoy more than identifying myself as a polygamist free-market republican who drops acid weekly and makes $500,000 a year, and then thinking about the sociologist or the marketer who reads that survey later.

Sisters of Mercy were a great Goth band.

[DanGarion]

GOth chicks can be hot.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by dangarion

GOth chicks can be hot.

If your eyes have been clawed out of your sockets, sure, they can be gorgeous

[Ksyrup]

She's in love with herself
She likes the dark
On her milk white neck
The Devil's mark
It's All Hallows Eve
The moon is full
Will she trick or treat?
I bet she will

She's got a date at midnight with Nosferatu
Oh baby, Lily Munster ain't got nothing on you
Well, when I called her evil
She just laughed and cast that spell on me
Boo bitch craft

Yeah, you wanna go out 'cause it's raining and blowing
But you can't go out 'cause your roots are showing
Dye 'em black
Black black black No. 1 (Little Miss Scare-all)
Dye 'em black

Little wolf skin boots
And clove cigarettes
An erotic funeral
For which she's dressed
Her perfume smells like
Burning leaves
Everyday is Halloween

Loving you was like loving the dead
It was like, it was like fucking the dead!

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

If your eyes have been clawed out of your sockets, sure, they can be gorgeous

Haven't you ever checked out the girls from Suicide Girls? Sure that's more burlesque but it's hot.

[gi]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

She's in love with herself
She likes the dark
On her milk white neck
The Devil's mark
It's All Hallows Eve
The moon is full
Will she trick or treat?
I bet she will

I always bust out Type O when fall hits...great way to bring on a season.

[Ksyrup]

One of my favorite Christmas songs is Red Water (Christmas Mourning) by Type O. My wife says I have issues.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I didn't watch a lot of Utah games this past season, but I don't remember any of the Utes being "goth."

[gi]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

One of my favorite Christmas songs is Red Water (Christmas Mourning) by Type O. My wife says I have issues.

Ahh...great song for the 'holidays' I get the same from my fiance.