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Old 04-30-2006, 03:19 PM   #1
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Difference between supplemental and compensatory pick?

Can anyone explain the difference to me? I know the compensatory picks are awarded based on losing more in FA than you bring in. What in the world are the "supplemental" picks awarded for?

And if you have no idea what i'm talking about, check out the key at the bottom of the pick listings here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...y_round/7.html
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:20 PM   #2
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Supplemental picks aren't awarded, it means that a team doesn't have the pick because they used it in the supplemental draft.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:20 PM   #3
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Based on the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement:

A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year's free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula that was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a team is covered by this formula.

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Old 04-30-2006, 03:22 PM   #4
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Supplemental picks are obviously teams that opted to use a pick in the supplemental draft to pick a player in the previous year, so they lose this year's pick.

Compensatory picks are listed above.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:25 PM   #5
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Supplemental picks aren't awarded, it means that a team doesn't have the pick because they used it in the supplemental draft.

I know what the supplemental draft is. Click the link I provided and try to explain to me what's going on at the bottom of the draft there.

Are you telling me Houston, Green Bay, San Francisco, New Orleans, and Oakland all used 7th round picks in last summer's supplemental draft?

And if they did, why are those picks still listed under each team?
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:26 PM   #6
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/...aftyear%3D2006

ESPN uses slightly different language, labeleing them "compenstatory selections" and "supplemental compensatory selections."
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:27 PM   #7
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I don't know why they have that there though, as they didn't indicate Miami used their 5th round pick on Manuel Wright and instead don't show the pick at all, it just goes from Green Bay at 5.15 to Minnesota which should be listed as 5.17 instead of 5.16.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:37 PM   #8
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/...aftyear%3D2006

ESPN uses slightly different language, labeleing them "compenstatory selections" and "supplemental compensatory selections."


Ah, I see that now. The best I've been able to find is that their additional compensatory picks awarded to reach a minimum number of compensatory picks.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9341500
Picks 251-255 are supplemental compensatory picks (based upon draft-order formula) to fulfill the number of draft choices permitted by agreement with the NFL Players Association in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:50 PM   #9
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After all the compensatory selections are awarded, if there are less than 32, the rest are handed out in draft order, like it would be the 8th round. They essentially draft 8 rounds worth of guys each year.

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Old 04-30-2006, 04:54 PM   #10
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All I know is that Colts better get an excellent pick for losing James and perhaps Vandy (After all, statistically he IS the best regular season kicker ever)
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:55 PM   #11
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All I know is that Colts better get an excellent pick for losing James and perhaps Vandy (After all, statistically he IS the best regular season kicker ever)

But they signed Vinatieri, so that will wash with Vanderjagt. You're probably right about James though, it's good for the Colts if he has a huge year in Arizona.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:59 PM   #12
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James is definately a lock to bring back a 3rd rounder due to the contract size, I think even if he gets hurt next year.

The kickers should cancel each other out dollar value wise. Primary factor for compensatory picks is dollar value per year, and then playing time/production/awards. According to their contract terms, I think Thorton brings back a 4/5th, and Tripplett a 5/6 next year. Probably depends on playing time some though.

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