Players and officials.

SackAttack · 05-16-2006, 10:58 PM

Why is it that arguing balls and strikes can get you thrown out in baseball, but you can jump in a referee's face like Steve Nash did a few minutes ago and signal for the call you want, and it's not even a technical foul?

Play the damn game, and let the officials do their jobs.

I firmly believe that that sort of grandstanding should be a "T" in basketball and a 5 yard penalty (and replay of the previous down on offense) in football. I know what you think the call is or should be, but you're just showing up the official by dancing around like a trained monkey waving your arms.

JS19 · 05-16-2006, 11:09 PM

Didn't see the play you are talking about, but from what I have always seen, it's more of what you say to an official than the way you act.

SackAttack · 05-17-2006, 12:58 AM

If you kick dirt on an umpire, what's going to happen? It's still a gesture that shows up the official.

Let them make their calls. Waving your hand isn't going to make the official go "Well, I thought it was short, but that guy who has a vested interest in it being a first down thinks it's across, so what the hell."

JS19 · 05-17-2006, 01:11 AM

I agree 100%. I will say this, being that I have been playing baseball all my life, sometimes you just get caught up in the moment and let emotions get the best of you.

miami_fan · 05-17-2006, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

If you kick dirt on an umpire, what's going to happen? It's still a gesture that shows up the official.

Let them make their calls. Waving your hand isn't going to make the official go "Well, I thought it was short, but that guy who has a vested interest in it being a first down thinks it's across, so what the hell."

However a lot of times that is the case. The official makes a call, the player complains, another official comes in says he had a better angle, and then the call gets changed. I am not advocating players complaining to the refs about a call. I think it happens far too often. But Nash, I believe, is the captain of his team and captains are supposed to be the one player who can talk to the refs about things that happen on the court.

jeff061 · 05-17-2006, 06:47 AM

I think it's more about trying to influence future calls.

That and just straight up losing your temper.

05-17-2006, 06:47 AM	#6
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I think it's more about trying to influence future calls. That and just straight up losing your temper. __________________

05-16-2006, 11:09 PM	#2
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Didn't see the play you are talking about, but from what I have always seen, it's more of what you say to an official than the way you act.

05-17-2006, 12:58 AM	#3
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	If you kick dirt on an umpire, what's going to happen? It's still a gesture that shows up the official. Let them make their calls. Waving your hand isn't going to make the official go "Well, I thought it was short, but that guy who has a vested interest in it being a first down thinks it's across, so what the hell."

05-17-2006, 01:11 AM	#4
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I agree 100%. I will say this, being that I have been playing baseball all my life, sometimes you just get caught up in the moment and let emotions get the best of you.

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