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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Option?
From NFL.com
(May 18, 2006) -- The Tennessee Titans are exploring their options. Or, more specifically, the option. Since the NFL draft wrapped up, the Titans have begun studying various option formations, with the intent of making some a limited part of their playbook this season for their first-round pick, Vince Young. Now, the Titans are planning on installing a "Vince Young Package," one that would include the option and force opposing defenses to have to prepare for more than just Tennesee's basic offensive attack. Behind the scenes, Titans coaches already have begun sifting through some of the various option options, pondering which to include for Young. It would not be a difficult offense for Young to learn. At Texas, Young ran the "option read," in which he would watch the defensive end, then decide whether to hand the football to his running back or carry it himself. It is how he transformed himself into college football's most dangerous quarterback. More of those opportunities could come this season in a package that could be a nightmare for opposing defenses. This is part of the reason the Titans are so intrigued about it. But it also could produce key yards in specific situations for Tennessee, which is why the franchise began debating the merits of it. Young could become the ultimate red-zone weapon, in an area where many offenses struggle to score touchdowns. No NFL team is thought to have used the option for about 20 years, since around the time Young was born. But this could be about to change. These are different times, and Young is a different quarterback. The Titans would have preferred to keep the idea secret, and even closed their team minicamp to the media on Wednesday. But the option offense is expected to get its share of practice in Tennessee, particularly in training camp, when the team will determine if its offense can be as adept at it as Young had been at Texas. What Titans coaches also will have to wrestle with is their desire to keep Young on the bench and season him. Using him to run the offense would expose him to NFL defenses sooner than the organization would like. But in certain situations, it could be highly effective. The quarterback who many consider to be the total package now will have his own package. And it is expected to include the option. |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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they've lost it over there in ten
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College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The DMV
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Chow running the option? Next thing you'll tell me, Cowher will be installing the run and shoot...
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
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I don't know whether it will work or not, but this is about the only way drafting Young that high makes sense. He's going to flame out as a typical drop-back passer.
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Rider Of Rohan
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep
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Running the option against an NFL defense is a quick way to get your QB killed.
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wisconsin
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What kind of options can you put on your package?
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n00b
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dallas
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I just appreciated the references to VY's package.
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Especially with bad boys like this playing D! ![]()
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Apr 2005
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My memory might be a little fuzzy on this, but didn't the Eagles do something similar when Randal Cunningham was a first year player? I know it wasn't a "true" option, but I seem to remember Cunningham would come in on running situations and basically just do that.
But that could just be a "sample size" error on my part.
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Rider Of Rohan
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
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Damn, the Bears aren't playing Tenn this year.
Watching Urlacher race down an option running Young would be great fun. |
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Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Kennesaw, GA
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I hate to break it to Tennessee, but in college, Vince wasn't the master of eluding defenders...from what I saw, he had a tendency to run through or bounce off guys. That ain't gonna happen in the pros...he's gonna get decapitated.
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The boy who cried Trout
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: TX
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Broken tibia. probably compound fracture. |
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Agreed. This is a bad idea. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Maybe it's a ruse.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Dayton, OH
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I like how the article says that this package would become a nightmare for opposing defenses. It'll be a nightmare, alright.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Agreed. I give it 1 play and they will be taking Young out on a stretcher. The they will be thinking of their next "option" at QB. |
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Join Date: May 2001
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This was my first thought as well. Was VY a running threat? Yes. Was he a threat to run away from guys? No. This is just a recipe for disaster.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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People seem to forget that football players will rattle the QBs cage any chance they get. The first time they run the option, the DE or LB won't care about guessing which player they need to stop. They are just going to smack the QB while he is standing straight up locked in the pitching motion. Pro teams that think they are going to run the option usually change their mind after the first attempt.
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I want to see Volek run the option first.
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FOFC Survivor
Join Date: Apr 2002
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I wonder when they'll consider the WISHbone.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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actually buddy ryan used to put randal in on 3rd and long so he could run for a first down if needed and sometimes he would punt on 3rd down |
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He rarely ran through or bounced off guys. He was very elusive at the college level and he absolutely always ran out of bounds if it was available. I'd say he was actually tackled by a defender on around 50% of his running plays. Probably less. That being said, he obviously won't be as elusive for NFL defenders. But the weirdest thing about this thread is the general take that the Titans are planning to run the option often. Do you guys seriously think they're planning on running more than 2-3 option plays in a given game, tops? The likeliest scenario by far is busting it out once per game if the situation arises.
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Agreed. A package of bootleg passes, and occasional options seems to be a way to get Vince to be a full weapon at the next level. |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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Dark Cloud is to Wie as Huckleberry is to Young.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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I think sprinkling some option stuff in makes sense for them. They need to do something to keep other teams on their toes, and force them to play a little more tentatively. Otherwise you're gonna have a rookie Qb back there who can't make the reads and a defense that is just attacking constantly. There's a pretty good chance he's getting killed no matter what they do.
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Interesting. Do you have anything to say regarding the content of the post? Another thing is that I doubt the Titans are putting in traditional option plays that most people are probably thinking of, i.e., the option play to the outside with the HB as a pitch man. Young doesn't even run that type of option very well at all. The option that Texas used enables the QB to get rid of the ball immediately if he sees the DE coming to take his head off.
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
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They're going to run 67 variations of the shotgun-QB option/draw play.
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no, i'm still waiting for you to reveal all your vince young secrets.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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I see. I have one and he hasn't signed a contract yet. So keep waiting.
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that will be one huge wristband
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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When I think option I think of Ron Powlus.
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Load up on WR who can run a quick curl route. |
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Somewhere Eric Crouch is.... quitting
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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What space for the wristband with instructions on turning the other wristband inside out?
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Everyone knows Vince Young was in an airport hangar in Cleveland when that Wonderlic was administered. |
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Rider Of Rohan
Join Date: Jul 2001
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But regardless of what type of "option" running play you are referring to, if the QB is a ballcarrier the defense has a much more legitimate opportunity to nail him than if he is a passer (and thus protected by the rules). As a runner he becomes fair game.
He better work on his hook slide.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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Vince Young in LT voice: "I was setup like a muthaf*cker."
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Chow: Why did you hand the ball off? There wasn't anyone within 5 yards of you! Young: Yeah, but you should have seen the look on the guy 5 yards away from me!
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Vince Young will probably have a better career than Akili Smith.
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Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi
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Being able to and consistently doing it are different matters altogether. I guess I must not have watched all of every game he played at Texas. Oh wait, my mistake, I did just that. I will say that he took on a lot more contact in his last game than he had previously. I have a feeling it was because of the stakes.
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
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I remember having some pretty good success with this offense in Tecmo Super Bowl, using Scott Mitchell (?!?!) and the Miami Dolphins. Don't knock it.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Hey, the Titans have had a lot of success with the permanently-injured Steve McNair at QB. This is just part of their plan to "break Young in" as it were.
Everyone knows that the "running quarterbacks" who became good quarterbacks only did so once they'd had the stuffing knocked out of them a few times and learned to live behind the protection. Tennesse is just trying to speed this process up. ![]() |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I used a similar offense with Chiefs. It involved using "the motion" play and was near unstoppable. The Steve DeBerg to Christian Okoye "option" play was what allowed me to have an undefeated season, even beating those late season games were the computer "picks" your play almost every down.
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Good times. An undefeated season without resorting to any of the gadget plays... that was the holy grail right there. No DT-as-sack-machine... no option-run-play...no QB-rollout-for-eight-yards-every-time... just good old fashioned luck. |
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