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Join Date: Oct 2000
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POL: Iraq's Parliament Approves New Cabinet
Some pretty important (good) news out of Iraq. You wouldn't have seen this 3 years ago. Slowly but surely--progress.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
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That is good news but I must admit that when I read the title I thought "Iraq's Parliament Approves New Cabinet but they are locked in a bloody conflict over the end table."
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Personally, I think every new home should start with a wet-bar. |
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This is from the AP Dutch, so how do you know it's not a lie??
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Ah, wish I'd have thought of that. I didn't really like end table but it's the best I could do from work. I'm really not a furniture guy as you can tell but a wet-bar... yep.
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I've never said they lie. I say they slant the facts by showing one side vs another. And take a closer look at the article, it's been well crafted. ![]() |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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"The task is to create an environment that is sufficiently permissive that the Iraqi people can fashion a new government. And what they will do is come together in one way or another and select an interim authority of some kind. Then that group will propose a constitution and a more permanent authority of some kind. And over some period of months, the Iraqis will have their government selected by Iraqi people." - Donald Rumsfeld, Meet the Press, April 13th, 2003. |
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Flere, I'm just curious, but how can you personally quanitify "over some period of months?" To me, that could mean 3 months or 72 months.
Now, I'll admit that he obviously constructed his wording so that he wouldn't technically be wrong about the amount of time, but I'm curious as to how you came to your conclusion.
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Personally, I'm not very optimistic about this as they still haven't gotten all the cabinet positions filled. I think that if the PM puts in the wrong person that the process could easily breakdown again.
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There's also the huge question of whether the Shiites and Kurds will stick to their word and allow the Sunnis to reopen portions of the constitution for changes. That agreement is what allowed for the formation of the government in the first place and nobody knows what will happen if the Sunnis don't get what they were promised.
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I agree, JPhillips. It's still a very fragile situation over there.
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I'm not answering for Flere but this is a good question. I'd quantify "over some period of months" to be valid until the term "over some period of years" would also be valid. Just like I'd quantify "over some period of weeks" to be valid until "over some period of months" was also valid. Make sense?
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Be honest, if you thought something would take 3-6 years, would you say "over some period of months" or "within a few years"? Quote:
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What conclusion did I come to? ![]() Last edited by flere-imsaho : 05-22-2006 at 08:50 AM. |
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That's my thinking. The power brokers have essentially avoided the problem for the moment in order to get the process a few more steps down the road. This still leaves a few key positions without leaders, and the underlying question of cooperation between the ethnic groups (heck, the underlying problem of stopping them from killing each other) still hasn't been solved. |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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I don't care anymore. These dudes will get killed by the insurgent animals, and that'll mean more kids from america will waste their time defending a lost cause.
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