Female Advice

JustAnotherGuy · 05-28-2006, 08:24 PM

Let me start out by saying I've read this board for years, but never posted. In that time I've come to have a high respect for the various viewpoints and opinions of the posters.

My problem is this, I've been with a girl for a little over 2 years now. Im 20 and she's 17. We had a little argument and broke up a month or so ago. Yet recently we've gotten back together and see each other in secret. During the time off it made us both realize just how great the other one was and we came back appreciating each other more than ever. This girl's mom does not want her to see me, not because I'm a bad guy, but rather because the mom has nothing better to do than live vicariously through her daughter and wants to be able to brag to her middle aged friends about who her daughter is dating, and I guess I just don't make that exciting of a story anymore. She threatens her daughter to not see me and stuff like that. I could understand if I was a bad guy or mean to her but I've always treated her so well. Her daughter loves me very much and I love her very much. I've always been a gentlemen to her and treated her above and beyond what most guys do for their girl. Anyway we're trying to figure out a way to break it to her mom without her getting in too much trouble, and not being able to see me ever again. Yes I do realize that we can't keep it secret forever. I was just wondering if maybe any of you guys have been in similar situations and have some sort of advice or helpful insight. Her and I have a really special connection and I don't want to lose that because of her mother. Any advice at all would be much appreciated and if u need more info just let me know,,,,Thanks!!

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 08:26 PM

This should be fun.

stevew · 05-28-2006, 08:27 PM

What's the legal age of consent. Not sure you would want to piss mom off when you could get a statuatory rape charge. 18 and 15.....that's warning bells for a relationship right there.

JustAnotherGuy · 05-28-2006, 08:31 PM

I know,,,Its not really about that anyway. Its just one of those things where I met this girl when I was a little under 18, and we fell for each other. I always keep in mind, if I had a daughter how would I want the guy dating her to treat her. My intentions are perfectly honorable. I used to be pretty tight with the mom anyway, but she just got bored of me I guess.

NoMyths · 05-28-2006, 08:33 PM

Longtime lurker. With a relationship question for this crew. Right.

Groundhog · 05-28-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

What's the legal age of consent. Not sure you would want to piss mom off when you could get a statuatory rape charge. 18 and 15.....that's warning bells for a relationship right there.

Indeed. Something to be very careful of.

saldana · 05-28-2006, 08:33 PM

cant........control........fingers.......

must.........type..........it........

pix pls k thxs

MrBug708 · 05-28-2006, 08:36 PM

Why did you break up once?

JustAnotherGuy · 05-28-2006, 08:41 PM

It wasn't really a break up. It was just kind of one of those time apart things. We kind of just needed to take a step back and see what we wanted. Like I told her if she had some wildness in her system or needed to see what was out there it was best to do it now, and get it out of her system than always wonder if she's with the right guy. Basicaly she figured out most guys aren't respectful and are only trying to get one thing.

stevew · 05-28-2006, 08:47 PM

I'm interested as to what other people will say. 20 and 17 is a huge difference in levels of maturity and responsibility. If you have your own apartment, pay the bills, deal with the consequences of her, it's cool. If not, there's no real good that can come out of a 17 year old girl being in a committed relationship with a guy that's 3 years older than her.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'm interested as to what other people will say.

I'm not much with relationship advice. I just know that Tom Brady is a better QB than Peyton Manning.

stevew · 05-28-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm not much with relationship advice. I just know that Tom Brady is a better QB than Peyton Manning.

So is big Ben.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So is big Ben.

I concur with the gentleman from the Amish paradise.

JustAnotherGuy · 05-28-2006, 08:56 PM

In a few months she'll be 18 anyway I guess. However, Is being 2 and a half years older than someone really that big of a difference in the grand scheme of things? I mean, I know a lot of couples around here who have much bigger age differences, such as 25 year olds dating high schoolers, which I do feel is extreme. However, around here its just kinda accepted I guess. Should I maybe write a letter to the mom and just say something along the lines of your daughter and I care for each other and would like to see one another every once in a while. The reason I ask is that yeah I do care about her and I want what is best for her, and if it really isn't in her best interest to be dating someone of my age than yeah I think we can wait a bit. However, we're really kind of at the same place in life right now, I live with my parents and goto college, so I'm not like out on my own. I also don't drink or do anything like that. Im a good kid. I have no problem with asking the mother's permission and if we can't get it waiting. It would hurt but I'd do it.

stevew · 05-28-2006, 09:02 PM

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25 year olds dating high schoolers, which I do feel is extreme

Obligatory, "That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age" reference.

Make sure you don't knock her up, that's my main advice in all of this. I had a kid at 23, and it took us a long time to get to okay, if you want life to turn out like you hope, just make sure that you wrap it up.

Franklinnoble · 05-28-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths

Longtime lurker. With a relationship question for this crew. Right.

Yeah, I second the "bullshit" call here.

Can we get an IP check on aisle 4, please?

JustAnotherGuy · 05-28-2006, 10:30 PM

I've been here long enough to remember Horns Maniac and that whole fiasco. Was here quite a bit before that. Ive played since FOF 2001. I have been here a while. I remember Blackadar I believe or whoever used to run this board before Skydog. I just never really had an urge or time to sign up and take part.

Passacaglia · 05-28-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

I've been here long enough to remember Horns Maniac and that whole fiasco. Was here quite a bit before that. Ive played since FOF 2001. I have been here a while. I remember Blackadar I believe or whoever used to run this board before Skydog. I just never really had an urge or time to sign up and take part.

It's not the longtime part that people dispute. I think what people don't believe is that this is your first time posting -- they think you're an established user with a different name.

Anthony · 05-28-2006, 11:22 PM

your life is pathetic if you need advice from anonymous strangers on an internet message board devoted to a text sim football game that is made by a ghostware company. i would contemplate suicide if i were you. it's memorial day weekend, and even i know you should not be living anymore. don't slash your wrists, it never works. just do it the right way and walk in front of an oncoming truck. you shouldn't be living anymore.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

your life is pathetic if you need advice from anonymous strangers on an internet message board devoted to a text sim football game that is made by a ghostware company. i would contemplate suicide if i were you. it's memorial day weekend, and even i know you should not be living anymore. don't slash your wrists, it never works. just do it the right way and walk in front of an oncoming truck. you shouldn't be living anymore.

Yes, but what do you think of Ben Roethlisberger as compared to Peyton Manning? That's the important question.

Eaglesfan27 · 05-28-2006, 11:31 PM

It doesn't matter that this girl is almost 18 now. You were 18 and she was 15 when you started dating. In most states, you face a real risk of statuatory rape charges (even if that wasn't what the relationship was about.) Mom can press those charges YEARS after the fact in most states, and therefore you are certainly still at risk for stuff you may have done a year or two ago. Therefore, you better be very careful about pissing her mom off, which might mean not seeing the girl...

stevew · 05-28-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Yes, but what do you think of Ben Roethlisberger as compared to Peyton Manning? That's the important question.

I think he likes Eli Manning.

Anthony · 05-28-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Yes, but what do you think of Ben Roethlisberger as compared to Peyton Manning? That's the important question.

Ben is a winner. i'm sorry, when Ben and Peyton are naked in a locker room after a long day of golf and Peyton is all "i tossed a record 49 touchdowns" Ben will stand there with (hopefully) a fat flacid penis and say "does this championship ring make me look fat? Ben is a winner. championships beat great individual stellar seasons. rock. paper. scissors.

Anthony · 05-28-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I think he likes Eli Manning.

Eli will take us to the promised land. Archie told me so.

ok, he didn't, but Eli is gonna be a good one. his RB's name is Tiki.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 11:43 PM

There should be more threads about Ben Roethlisberger's penis, and fewer threads about Brad Pitt's baby.

Anthony · 05-28-2006, 11:48 PM

Ben will always be A OK in my book. when i was in Vegas in '05 i had $10 in my pocket and i put it down on the Steelers to win on my wife's hunch. steelers started out like fags and i was like "well, it was only $10, not like the Steelers were gonna win a bleeping championship anyway just cuz i bet on them" and he stood up with his robust male genitalia - he literally stood up - and decided this was the year he was gonna make the Steerlers a winner. i won $110 cuz it was 10-1 odds and now i will spend that money in Vegas this year when i go with my friends June 14-19. i might spend that money on whores or booze or whores pouring booze on themselves.

ok, i'm married, so there won't be any whores in the cards for me, but there will be plenty of booze Goddammit.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

Ben will always be A OK in my book. when i was in Vegas in '05 i had $10 in my pocket and i put it down on the Steelers to win on my wife's hunch. steelers started out like fags and i was like "well, it was only $10, not like the Steelers were gonna win a bleeping championship anyway just cuz i bet on them" and he stood up with his robust male genitalia - he literally stood up - and decided this was the year he was gonna make the Steerlers a winner. i won $110 cuz it was 10-1 odds and now i will spend that money in Vegas this year when i go with my friends June 14-19. i might spend that money on whores or booze or whores pouring booze on themselves.

ok, i'm married, so there won't be any whores in the cards for me, but there will be plenty of booze Goddammit.

I bet that Ben would kick Peyton's ass if they got into a fight. Actually, is there any NFL player that couldn't kick Peyton's ass in a fight? I bet Steve Smith would have Peyton crying like a little girl.

stevew · 05-28-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I bet that Ben would kick Peyton's ass if they got into a fight. Actually, is there any NFL player that couldn't kick Peyton's ass in a fight? I bet Steve Smith would have Peyton crying like a little girl.

Garo Yapremian?

Anthony · 05-28-2006, 11:59 PM

i have no feelings of ill-will against Peyton. this AFC championship was a predicament for me - root for Ben's manly package and win $110....OR cheer for Peyton (one of my favorite players in the NFL) and have him basically win the championship.

no matter what it was win-win. $110 goes a long way. that cash is waiting in my sock drawer as we speak to be spent on something sinful. i'm tempted to bet it on black as soon as i touch ground and try to turn that original $10 investment into $220. that would be the greatest investment of all time. don't tempt me, cuz i'll do it.

st.cronin · 05-28-2006, 11:59 PM

How many 5 year olds could Peyton Manning take?

Anthony · 05-29-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

How many 5 year olds could Peyton Manning take?

27

ahbrady · 05-29-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I bet that Ben would kick Peyton's ass if they got into a fight. Actually, is there any NFL player that couldn't kick Peyton's ass in a fight? I bet Steve Smith would have Peyton crying like a little girl.

I'm not sure the Grammatica that got injured while celebrating a field goal could, but I bet it would be a good fight. I'm not sure kickers count as players though.

st.cronin · 05-29-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

27

No way. Not more than 12.

Anthony · 05-29-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

No way. Not more than 12.

stop it. he's a professional athlete, from a long lineage of athletes.

doesn't the word "lineage" make it sound more dramatic? still, it's 27. he lacks the ferocity of say, Warren Sapp, but, that's a golden right arm he's got. helluva cannon. i wouldn't want to be in the line of fire once he unleashes it.

st.cronin · 05-29-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

stop it. he's a professional athlete, from a long lineage of athletes.

doesn't the word "lineage" make it sound more dramatic? still, it's 27. he lacks the ferocity of say, Warren Sapp, but, that's a golden right arm he's got. helluva cannon. i wouldn't want to be in the line of fire once he unleashes it.

He doesn't get to pelt the kids with footballs, and he doesn't get an offensive line. If he did, that might be different. 12 5 year olds, and Peyton will be running for his life.

duckman · 05-29-2006, 12:07 AM

Troy Aikman would destroy all those bitches.

Groundhog · 05-29-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Yes, but what do you think of Ben Roethlisberger as compared to Peyton Manning? That's the important question.

Peyton Manning is a much cooler name than Ben Roflburger. And at the end of the day, isn't that what really matters?

Groundhog · 05-29-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

stop it. he's a professional athlete, from a long lineage of athletes.

doesn't the word "lineage" make it sound more dramatic? still, it's 27. he lacks the ferocity of say, Warren Sapp, but, that's a golden right arm he's got. helluva cannon. i wouldn't want to be in the line of fire once he unleashes it.

You know, I would pay good money to see Sapp take that particular challenge. My money would be on 10,000.

stevew · 05-29-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman

Troy Aikman would destroy all those bitches.

He of the umpteen concussions?

stevew · 05-29-2006, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

You know, I would pay good money to see Sapp take that particular challenge. My money would be on 10,000.

Sapp would get winded after the first 30 kids. First and foremost, these days he's a big fat fuck, so I doubt he has the stamina to last that long.

Franklinnoble · 05-29-2006, 12:31 AM

Why stop at Warren Sapp? Let's really unleash the fury, and turn someone truly crazy loose, like Dexter Manley in his cocaine-fueled prime...

Groundhog · 05-29-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Sapp would get winded after the first 30 kids. First and foremost, these days he's a big fat fuck, so I doubt he has the stamina to last that long.

Perhaps... but damn... that first 30... it would be a hell of a sight.

duckman · 05-29-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

He of the umpteen concussions?

The man wrestled steers. One thing I have learn in this state is that you don't fuck with a man who wrestled steers. He'll fuck you up.

Franklinnoble · 05-29-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman

Troy Aikman would destroy all those bitches.

Anthony · 05-29-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Sapp would get winded after the first 30 kids. First and foremost, these days he's a big fat fuck, so I doubt he has the stamina to last that long.

you would deficate in your pants if you were to be in the same room as Sapp. literally, feces would come out of your anus and be deposited into your underwear just from the very sight of such a man.

stevew · 05-29-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman

The man wrestled steers. One thing I have learn in this state is that you don't fuck with a man who wrestled steers. He'll fuck you up.

Well, with steers taken, we know where Aikman fits according to the infamous stament about Texas.

duckman · 05-29-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Die.

sterlingice · 05-29-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

He doesn't get to pelt the kids with footballs, and he doesn't get an offensive line. If he did, that might be different. 12 5 year olds, and Peyton will be running for his life.

There's a Bengals joke here or something.

SI

Arctus · 05-29-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Why stop at Warren Sapp? Let's really unleash the fury, and turn someone truly crazy loose, like Dexter Manley in his cocaine-fueled prime...

Would just Manley be coked up, or would the 5 year olds get to toot up also? Seems like it would be only fair to let the little ones enhance their performance too.

Franklinnoble · 05-29-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctus

Would just Manley be coked up, or would the 5 year olds get to toot up also? Seems like it would be only fair to let the little ones enhance their performance too.

Why? Were the 1987 Denver Broncos on coke? I doubt it.

Although, now that I think about it, it's probably pretty obvious where Timmy Smith picked up the habit. But I digress...

05-28-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	This should be fun. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-28-2006, 08:27 PM	#3
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	What's the legal age of consent. Not sure you would want to piss mom off when you could get a statuatory rape charge. 18 and 15.....that's warning bells for a relationship right there. Last edited by stevew : 05-28-2006 at 08:28 PM.

05-28-2006, 11:22 PM	#19
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	your life is pathetic if you need advice from anonymous strangers on an internet message board devoted to a text sim football game that is made by a ghostware company. i would contemplate suicide if i were you. it's memorial day weekend, and even i know you should not be living anymore. don't slash your wrists, it never works. just do it the right way and walk in front of an oncoming truck. you shouldn't be living anymore. Last edited by Anthony : 05-28-2006 at 11:23 PM.

05-28-2006, 11:31 PM	#21
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	It doesn't matter that this girl is almost 18 now. You were 18 and she was 15 when you started dating. In most states, you face a real risk of statuatory rape charges (even if that wasn't what the relationship was about.) Mom can press those charges YEARS after the fact in most states, and therefore you are certainly still at risk for stuff you may have done a year or two ago. Therefore, you better be very careful about pissing her mom off, which might mean not seeing the girl... __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

05-28-2006, 11:43 PM	#25
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There should be more threads about Ben Roethlisberger's penis, and fewer threads about Brad Pitt's baby. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-28-2006, 08:31 PM	#4
JustAnotherGuy n00b Join Date: May 2006	I know,,,Its not really about that anyway. Its just one of those things where I met this girl when I was a little under 18, and we fell for each other. I always keep in mind, if I had a daughter how would I want the guy dating her to treat her. My intentions are perfectly honorable. I used to be pretty tight with the mom anyway, but she just got bored of me I guess.

05-28-2006, 08:33 PM	#5
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Longtime lurker. With a relationship question for this crew. Right.

05-28-2006, 08:33 PM	#7
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	cant........control........fingers....... must.........type..........it........ pix pls k thxs

05-28-2006, 08:36 PM	#8
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Why did you break up once?

05-28-2006, 08:41 PM	#9
JustAnotherGuy n00b Join Date: May 2006	It wasn't really a break up. It was just kind of one of those time apart things. We kind of just needed to take a step back and see what we wanted. Like I told her if she had some wildness in her system or needed to see what was out there it was best to do it now, and get it out of her system than always wonder if she's with the right guy. Basicaly she figured out most guys aren't respectful and are only trying to get one thing.

05-28-2006, 08:47 PM	#10
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm interested as to what other people will say. 20 and 17 is a huge difference in levels of maturity and responsibility. If you have your own apartment, pay the bills, deal with the consequences of her, it's cool. If not, there's no real good that can come out of a 17 year old girl being in a committed relationship with a guy that's 3 years older than her.

05-28-2006, 08:56 PM	#14
JustAnotherGuy n00b Join Date: May 2006	In a few months she'll be 18 anyway I guess. However, Is being 2 and a half years older than someone really that big of a difference in the grand scheme of things? I mean, I know a lot of couples around here who have much bigger age differences, such as 25 year olds dating high schoolers, which I do feel is extreme. However, around here its just kinda accepted I guess. Should I maybe write a letter to the mom and just say something along the lines of your daughter and I care for each other and would like to see one another every once in a while. The reason I ask is that yeah I do care about her and I want what is best for her, and if it really isn't in her best interest to be dating someone of my age than yeah I think we can wait a bit. However, we're really kind of at the same place in life right now, I live with my parents and goto college, so I'm not like out on my own. I also don't drink or do anything like that. Im a good kid. I have no problem with asking the mother's permission and if we can't get it waiting. It would hurt but I'd do it.

05-28-2006, 10:30 PM	#17
JustAnotherGuy n00b Join Date: May 2006	I've been here long enough to remember Horns Maniac and that whole fiasco. Was here quite a bit before that. Ive played since FOF 2001. I have been here a while. I remember Blackadar I believe or whoever used to run this board before Skydog. I just never really had an urge or time to sign up and take part.

05-28-2006, 11:48 PM	#26
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	Ben will always be A OK in my book. when i was in Vegas in '05 i had $10 in my pocket and i put it down on the Steelers to win on my wife's hunch. steelers started out like fags and i was like "well, it was only $10, not like the Steelers were gonna win a bleeping championship anyway just cuz i bet on them" and he stood up with his robust male genitalia - he literally stood up - and decided this was the year he was gonna make the Steerlers a winner. i won $110 cuz it was 10-1 odds and now i will spend that money in Vegas this year when i go with my friends June 14-19. i might spend that money on whores or booze or whores pouring booze on themselves. ok, i'm married, so there won't be any whores in the cards for me, but there will be plenty of booze Goddammit.

05-28-2006, 11:59 PM	#29
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i have no feelings of ill-will against Peyton. this AFC championship was a predicament for me - root for Ben's manly package and win $110....OR cheer for Peyton (one of my favorite players in the NFL) and have him basically win the championship. no matter what it was win-win. $110 goes a long way. that cash is waiting in my sock drawer as we speak to be spent on something sinful. i'm tempted to bet it on black as soon as i touch ground and try to turn that original $10 investment into $220. that would be the greatest investment of all time. don't tempt me, cuz i'll do it.

05-29-2006, 12:31 AM	#41
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Why stop at Warren Sapp? Let's really unleash the fury, and turn someone truly crazy loose, like Dexter Manley in his cocaine-fueled prime...

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