Wrestling: ECW One Night Stand Thread

[DeToxRox]

So far the crowd is going nuts.

Angle/Orton is on right now and the crowd is so behind Angle it's sick. I'm loving the atmosphere.

People posting make sure you acknolwedge spoilers.

[DeToxRox]

so far a lot of fun

tazz/lawler wasnt much a match

orton vs angle had amazing crowd energy. angle was so over with the crowd, and orton was as hated as anyone i've seen in ecw.

tajiri/crazy vs fbi was amazing. amazing tag match.

[Terps]

I liked the "You can't wrestle chants" directed towards Orton.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Terps

I liked the "You can't wrestle chants" directed towards Orton.

the fans fucking destroyed orton lol. some amazing work.

[DeToxRox]

Terps -- That Sabu/Rey finish had to be a work right?

If not my god, how are either of them but especially Rey walking?

Amazing match.

[Terps]

I would think so. I didn't like how it ended though. But that table didn't really break the right way.

[Joe]

Kind of surprised Rey kept the title. I would've thought they'd have Sabu win, turn it to the ECW title, and set up some tournament on smackdown which Batista would win.

[Terps]

The other title match better end clean.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Terps

I would think so. I didn't like how it ended though. But that table didn't really break the right way.

Yeah, how loud the guy said it's over seemed like it was a work, but Rey landed head first perfectly vertical on the floor. Floor mat or not that was sick.

[Terps]

haha. Beulah, haven't seen her in a LONG time.

[Joe]

why isnt sandman on tonight?

[Terps]

Dave Meltzer on the Rey/Sabu ending:

The finish was spectacular. Sabu did a triple jump DDT on a table to the floor. Ugly landing, as designed. The doctor then stopped the match and it was ruled no contest. They acted as if both were hurt, but it was clearly designed as it was. It wouldn't shock me to see them brought back later because they don't have non-finishes, or this was the only way they could protect both sides.

[DeToxRox]

Wow. This tag team match was INSANE. barbed wire, fire, oh my god.

[Terps]

Another dumb ending for the Dreamer/Funk/Beulah vs. Edge/ Foley/Lita match.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Terps

Another dumb ending for the Dreamer/Funk/Beulah vs. Edge/ Foley/Lita match.

The ending in this match didnt matter to me, it was just insane.

[Terps]

Nice to see Tanaka back, wish he had a better opponent than Balls Mahoney though.

[Terps]

Lame match, Tanaka could've been used a lot better than that.

[Terps]

Cena is gonna get DESTROYED by the crowd. Even more so if he retains the title.

[JeffNights]

tanaka? he bites, balls mahoney should be pissed if anybody.

[Terps]

So Sandman gets to come out to beat up on Eugene. *yawn*

[Terps]

Fan sign of the night: If Cena Wins We Riot.

[DeToxRox]

Jesus. Cena throws his hat, it gets thrown back. He throws his shirt in the crowd. Its thrown back. He repeatedly tries, repeatedly tossed back. Then a guy wipes his ass with it and throws it back. Then they throw TP at Cena

And now they're chanting "Cena swallows" and "You can't wrestle"

[DeToxRox]

I have honestly never seen an atmosphere like this for any match ever. Not even Hogan vs Rock compares to the intensity of this crowd for this match.

[Pumpy Tudors]

What channel was all of this on?

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

What channel was all of this on?

PPV

[DeToxRox]

these fans are rabid. I love them calling out Cena with "You Can't Wrestle" and "Same Old Shit"

[Terps]

Yeah, apparently they haven't watched ECW too much either then cause RVD has been doing the 'Same Old Shit' forever.

[DeToxRox]

As this match goes on I am not doubting a riot if Cena wins.

[Joe]

[DeToxRox]

About the ending I suspected but damn did I love the THANK YOU EDGE chants

[Terps]

At least the spinner belt will be gone. Ok show overall.

[Schmidty]

The hate for Cena is ridiculous. I've been watching wrestling for 23-24 years, and have seen MUCH worse wrestlers (charisma and ability) than Cena get nothing but love. The whole hate thing started on the internet when a few self-styled "experts" convinced the rest of the sheep to hate him.

I really like the guy. I'm not saying he's even remotely one of the best wrestlers I've seen, but he sure as hell doesn't deserve the venom he recieves.

I'm sure someone will rebutt with a list of reasons to hate him, with detailed critiques of every move he does, and the flaws in gimmick. That's fine, but there are a ton of guys that are over who have just as many flaws, including Triple H (who I happen to like too).

[Joe]

RVD winning is so predictable

[DeToxRox]

I think the reason Cena is so hated is because they took him when he was popular and tried turning him into something hes not. He pulled an opposite Rock. Rock started off as forced down our throats, too nice, etc. He evolved into a guy people loved to cheer, and he could work both ways.

Cena has only worked his best as a heel, then he was forced into being a face and he just got old and repetitive fast.

I never liked him but thats how I've seen it anyway.

[Neuqua]

I miss The Rock.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

I think the reason Cena is so hated is because they took him when he was popular and tried turning him into something hes not. He pulled an opposite Rock. Rock started off as forced down our throats, too nice, etc. He evolved into a guy people loved to cheer, and he could work both ways.

Cena has only worked his best as a heel, then he was forced into being a face and he just got old and repetitive fast.

I never liked him but thats how I've seen it anyway.

You make a good point, but I also don't think it's his fault that the bookers (or whoever) pushed him into his current role.

He's a talented, hard-working guy, and it's a shame to see him get so much crap. At this point, I hope the WWE doesn't give in and put him on the backburner.

[Terps]

I'd bet the decision gets reversed on RAW tomorrow.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Terps

I'd bet the decision gets reversed on RAW tomorrow.

Ya think?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Terps

I'd bet the decision gets reversed on RAW tomorrow.

I hope it does.

[Terps]

I'd rather Rhino come back (if he really is leaving TNA soon) with the ECW World Title, since he never lost it.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You make a good point, but I also don't think it's his fault that the bookers (or whoever) pushed him into his current role.

He's a talented, hard-working guy, and it's a shame to see him get so much crap. At this point, I hope the WWE doesn't give in and put him on the backburner.

What I find amusing is the dweebs on the internets ( ) that wish Cena's death or to suffer a career ending injury. All the guy does is do what he is told to do and people wish the worst things for him.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Terps

I'd rather Rhino come back (if he really is leaving TNA soon) with the ECW World Title, since he never lost it.

FWIW, Rhino told the crowd at a TNA houseshow this weekend that he had turned down a contract offer from the WWE.

Like I said take that FWIW, could have been a work, could have been the truth, I guess we'll find out eventually.

[Terps]

From WWE.com:

"Controversy reigns supreme over the result of the WWE Championship match at ECW One Night Stand. Did John Cena really lose the WWE Championship? The Championship situation will be addressed right when RAW goes on the air tonight at 9/8 CT"

[Joe]

[Ryche]

I'm guessing they'll hold up the title and have a three way match between Cena, Edge and RVD at the next ppv. Or Van Dam might say screw that, I'm the ECW title holder now, leaving the WWE belt to be decided between Edge and Cena.

You have to love the "You can't wrestle" chants directed at Cena and Orton, and then the fans going nuts cheering for guys like Dreamer. I don't have a problem with Cena, but I think they will have to figure out a way to turn him heel soon. But that really can't happen until after his movie.

[MikeVic]

I enjoyed the PPV, but still liked the first One Night Stand better overall. The heat for the matches was awesome. I love this new Angle. No bullshit, just wrestle. The two tag matches were really fun too. Also, even if the ending for the Sabu/Rey match was a work, they both must have gotten hurt from that bump... especially Rey. That was one of the sickest DDTs ever.

There were just too many stupid endings for my liking...

As for why the hate on Cena... I liked him when he first started and had the funny raps. Then he just stopped doing them all of a sudden. The first time in a loooong time that I heard something funny from him was on Wednesday, when he said something like:

"The homocidal, suicidal, genocidal, dance recital sheik of the week."

[JonInMiddleGA]

Speaking of TNA earlier in the thread (and reasonably related to the "new" ECW as well) ... here's some video from the TNA show in Philly over the weekend, as the fans sort of recreated one of ECW's legendary moments.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vWPCrvMWZ1U&search=tna

(That's Bubba Ray Dudley cheering the crowd on, that's the James Gang wandering around trying not to get hit with chairs. Still not sure whether it was a shoot or a work, but the James Gang walked out & refused to finish the match afterwards)

[Terps]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

FWIW, Rhino told the crowd at a TNA houseshow this weekend that he had turned down a contract offer from the WWE.

Like I said take that FWIW, could have been a work, could have been the truth, I guess we'll find out eventually.

Yup,

PWInsider.com

Rhino has just signed a multi-year deal with TNA so he's not going to ECW as rumored. His TNA deal was set to expire this July.

[Schmidty]

I love TNA, but I just wish they had more than an hour to work with. It makes the wrestlers seem too cardboard as far as their gimmicks and such. That isn't to say that I want it to become another WWE (or even close), but I think the "characters" could be more interesting.

[Desmond]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I love TNA, but I just wish they had more than an hour to work with. It makes the wrestlers seem too cardboard as far as their gimmicks and such. That isn't to say that I want it to become another WWE (or even close), but I think the "characters" could be more interesting.

TNA is just now figuring out how to pace a 1 hour show, give em some time before asking for an extra hour.

I disliked the show last for 2 reasons.

1) It's clear that this is simply a Vince McMahon run show. Heyman can talk all he wants about having control and reviving the name of ECW but in the end this was nothing more than a RAW show from a storyline perspective.

2) The crowd. Alot of people are praising the crowd but I absolutely hated them. They were a faux ECW crowd at best and a mark crowd at worst. A real ECW crowd would of shit all over the angles and finishes, especially in the Sabu/Rey match. In the main event they could of given 2 shits for RVD, all they wanted to do was boo Cena because thats what "all the smarts are doing". They just came off as a total poser ECW wannabe crowd to me.

The end of the show with Joey and Taz declaring RVD the new WWECW champion was....so, fucking retarded. If you're gonna do an angle, do it, don't half ass it. The people running this company have no idea how to book wrestling.