Spider-Man Comic (spoiler)

jbmagic · 06-14-2006, 06:24 PM

Spider-Man has publicly revealed his mask to show his identity as Peter Parker. (Marvel Comics)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060614...n_060614153003

Draft Dodger · 06-14-2006, 06:40 PM

meh, I knew that all along

sovereignstar · 06-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Duh.. Tobey Maguire is Spider-Man.

Groundhog · 06-14-2006, 06:41 PM

I'd never heard of this "Civil War" series, and after reading that link... well, I'm glad I stopped reading comics years ago.

I know politics have always made their way in to comics, but I think this is a complete joke.

SackAttack · 06-14-2006, 06:41 PM

It just seems like the "Superhero Registration Act" or whatever the hell they're calling it is just a thinly disguised stand-in for the Patriot Act.

"Look, people died, superheroes were responsible, won't somebody please think of the children?!"

M GO BLUE!!! · 06-14-2006, 06:55 PM

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SackAttack · 06-14-2006, 06:56 PM

you know, the more I think about this, this doesn't work other than as a political allegory.

I mean, isn't the whole point of superheroes not revealing their true identity to protect the lives of their loved ones? Isn't Spider-Man basically giving the ol' f-you to his friends and family by going "Yeah, I'm Spider-Man, and I'm proud of it"?

Groundhog · 06-14-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

you know, the more I think about this, this doesn't work other than as a political allegory.

I mean, isn't the whole point of superheroes not revealing their true identity to protect the lives of their loved ones? Isn't Spider-Man basically giving the ol' f-you to his friends and family by going "Yeah, I'm Spider-Man, and I'm proud of it"?

Indeed. First thing I do if I hate spiderman is go out and kidnap every relative and friend of his and torture them.

WVUFAN · 06-14-2006, 07:06 PM

Parker's family is protected, as they live in the Avenger's mansion.

Y'all should read the books before passing judgement. Civil War is an excellent series.

Groundhog · 06-14-2006, 07:08 PM

What about his friends, do they all kick back at the Avenger's mansion too? C'mon, it's rediculous. It would be very easy to find someone who Spidey or any other superhero cares about.

Abe Sargent · 06-14-2006, 07:10 PM

You REALLY needed to put this in a thread and not in a title for those who hadn;t picked up comics today:

SackAttack · 06-14-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Parker's family is protected, as they live in the Avenger's mansion.

Y'all should read the books before passing judgement. Civil War is an excellent series.

Riiight.

1) What about other super-heroes who support the law. Are their families protected at the Avenger's mansion, too? I also notice you left off any mention of friends.

2) They can't stay in there forever. Or is that permanent protective custody? Guantanamo for good guys?

3) There's no possibility of super-villains capitalizing on this whole "Civil War" bit to take out the Avenger's mansion and any friends/family that are there in one fell swoop?

4) No, really. They can't stay in there forever.

I'm not passing judgment on the books. Maybe they're very well done, but it seems like this particular revelation would just be up there on the Really Bad Idea list for a superhero.

Hell, revenge is a dish best served cold. What's stopping somebody who hates Spider-Man from just laying low for about ten years, and then *pop*? Goes back to #2. Permanent protective custody?

Hurst2112 · 06-14-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

You REALLY needed to put this in a thread and not in a title for those who hadn;t picked up comics today:

ok oliegirl

cthomer5000 · 06-14-2006, 07:13 PM

The series sounds like the setup for the movie "The Incredibles."

Franklinnoble · 06-14-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Hell, revenge is a dish best served cold. What's stopping somebody who hates Spider-Man from just laying low for about ten years, and then *pop*? Goes back to #2. Permanent protective custody?

"My father's name was Antonio Andolini... and this is for you."

SackAttack · 06-14-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

You REALLY needed to put this in a thread and not in a title for those who hadn;t picked up comics today:

jbmagic not having an edit button is suddenly a bitch, isn't it?

SackAttack · 06-14-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

"My father's name was Antonio Andolini... and this is for you."

Basically. You don't fuck with the Godfather, and I'm pretty sure there's a super-villain out there with a similar reputation.

Logan · 06-14-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Riiight.

1) What about other super-heroes who support the law. Are their families protected at the Avenger's mansion, too? I also notice you left off any mention of friends.

2) They can't stay in there forever. Or is that permanent protective custody? Guantanamo for good guys?

3) There's no possibility of super-villains capitalizing on this whole "Civil War" bit to take out the Avenger's mansion and any friends/family that are there in one fell swoop?

4) No, really. They can't stay in there forever.

I'm not passing judgment on the books. Maybe they're very well done, but it seems like this particular revelation would just be up there on the Really Bad Idea list for a superhero.

Hell, revenge is a dish best served cold. What's stopping somebody who hates Spider-Man from just laying low for about ten years, and then *pop*? Goes back to #2. Permanent protective custody?

It's weird...I thought it was just a comic book.

sabotai · 06-14-2006, 08:02 PM

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"My father's name was Antonio Andolini... and this is for you."

I don't feel I have to wipe everybody out, Tom. Just my enemies.

Buccaneer · 06-14-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

It's weird...I thought it was just a comic book.

No, it's just business, not personal.

sabotai · 06-14-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Basically. You don't fuck with the Godfather, and I'm pretty sure there's a super-villain out there with a similar reputation.

If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone.

Desmond · 06-14-2006, 08:13 PM

I thought for certain there would be a man painted in blue and red with his junk hanging out when I opened this thread.

MikeVic · 06-14-2006, 08:21 PM

Yeah, spoiling this isn't cool.

Someone get jb his edit button back. What if I had spoiled the end to a movie that just came out or something.... not fun.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-14-2006, 08:25 PM

Is the Avenger mansion anything like the Playboy mansion?

Desmond · 06-14-2006, 08:29 PM

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Is the Avenger mansion anything like the Playboy mansion?

Im picturing Emma Peel and Uma Thurman lounging together in the grotto.

Bad-example · 06-14-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

I thought for certain there would be a man painted in blue and red with his junk hanging out when I opened this thread.

Heh. I thought Andre Rison was arrested for flashing.

WVUFAN · 06-14-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Riiight.

1) What about other super-heroes who support the law. Are their families protected at the Avenger's mansion, too? I also notice you left off any mention of friends.

Then they have to make that choice, which is the whole reason for the series to begin with -- should we allow vigilantes running the street "beating up bad guys" and doing damage to innocent lives (see Civil War #1), all the while not being able to control them -- hell, not even knowing who they are so they can be responsible for their own actions? Or do we regulate them, force them to register and be responsible. No one is forcing them to be superheros.

On the other hand, is forcing them to register putting them at risk, since they're trying to help the world with the talents they've been given?

They had spider-man side with the government, which presents all sorts of interesting story ideas right along the lines you mentioned. Basicallly, Marvel is saying their comics will have changes in them, things to push the title forward. Personally, I like the idea.

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I'm not passing judgment on the books. Maybe they're very well done, but it seems like this particular revelation would just be up there on the Really Bad Idea list for a superhero.

Yeah, I would agree, but that's the thing with Spider-man -- he's not known for always making the best decisions. In the book, it's pretty apparant that Iron Man influenced him in making the decision. Iron Man and Spider-man are pretty much best buddies right now -- Tony Stark even built a new suit for Spiderman a few months ago.

You're right -- it's a lousy decision that the character made, and I'm sure that the Spider-man writers will be able to write some good stories because of it.

cthomer5000 · 06-14-2006, 10:24 PM

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Heh. I thought Andre Rison was arrested for flashing.

wasn't it Daryl Talley who went by Spiderman? I can swear i recall the webbed-looking undershirts he'd wear.

edit: http://ssakai.web.infoseek.co.jp/auto_talley1.jpg

sterlingice · 06-14-2006, 10:33 PM

Didn't they have a mutant registration plot in X-Men quite a few years ago?

SI

WVUFAN · 06-14-2006, 10:39 PM

It's still ongoing. This expands to all superheros, not just mutants.

Franklinnoble · 06-15-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

On the other hand, is forcing them to register putting them at risk, since they're trying to help the world with the talents they've been given?

They had spider-man side with the government, which presents all sorts of interesting story ideas right along the lines you mentioned.

"Goddamn FBI don't respect nothin'."

Bad-example · 06-15-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

wasn't it Daryl Talley who went by Spiderman? I can swear i recall the webbed-looking undershirts he'd wear.

edit: http://ssakai.web.infoseek.co.jp/auto_talley1.jpg

"While playing for the Kansas City Chiefs, Rison also garnered the nickname Spider-Man. This resulted from his touchdown celebrations where he posed like the superhero flinging spiderwebs."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Rison

cthomer5000 · 06-15-2006, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

"While playing for the Kansas City Chiefs, Rison also garnered the nickname Spider-Man. This resulted from his touchdown celebrations where he posed like the superhero flinging spiderwebs."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Rison

Ah, a late-career nickname addition.

Franklinnoble · 06-15-2006, 09:13 AM

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Ah, a late-career nickname addition.

"I spent my whole life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless. But not men. "

DanGarion · 06-15-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

You REALLY needed to put this in a thread and not in a title for those who hadn;t picked up comics today:

This was the thrid place I read this EXACT title, so don't act like he's the only one that did it. This was on Yahoo news even.

DanGarion · 06-15-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Parker's family is protected, as they live in the Avenger's mansion.

Y'all should read the books before passing judgement. Civil War is an excellent series.

Why would people want to actually read something before they pass judgement. That would be like playing a game before you pass judgement and we know barely anyone on here does that!

I think this series sounds really cool and I'm going to go get them. I've bought a total of 5 comics my entire life, but I've always been a fan of comic books, just never bought them.

rkmsuf · 06-15-2006, 10:58 AM

fritz

DanGarion · 06-15-2006, 11:00 AM

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fritz

My comic book reading is on the fritz!

FrogMan · 06-15-2006, 11:01 AM

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ok oliegirl

LOL

FM

AZSpeechCoach · 06-15-2006, 01:42 PM

The only superhero who wouldn't want to register is the superhero who has something to hide.

SelzShoes · 06-15-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AZSpeechCoach

The only superhero who wouldn't want to register is the superhero who has something to hide.

Tell that to Sue Dibny.

stevew · 06-15-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The series sounds like the setup for the movie "The Incredibles."

Yep

WVUFAN · 06-15-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SelzShoes

Tell that to Sue Dibny.

Good point, wrong universe. :-)

SackAttack · 06-16-2006, 12:12 AM

It's really shitty that instead of being a man about it and giving jbmagic his edit button back, we had to see the thread title edited by a moderator.

Sure am glad to see the show is being run by a bunch of adults here.

WVUFAN · 06-16-2006, 12:54 AM

Out of curiosity, why was his edit button taken away?

Franklinnoble · 06-16-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

It's really shitty that instead of being a man about it and giving jbmagic his edit button back, we had to see the thread title edited by a moderator.

Sure am glad to see the show is being run by a bunch of adults here.

[generic moderator rant]
Blah Blah Blah... I'll save everybody the trouble...
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SackAttack · 06-16-2006, 01:54 AM

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[generic moderator rant]
Blah Blah Blah... I'll save everybody the trouble...
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You know, I don't *usually* have much of a problem with the moderators, but when I do take issue, I also don't have a problem with speaking my mind.

Taking it away was the wrong way for Ben to get the answers he was seeking in whatever thread that was.

The way the community responded with tons of "oops, had to edit that" posts in response was akin to a group of schoolyard bullies picking on the scrawny nerd just to make themselves feel good.

The solution to the 'spoiler' thread title was petty and childish. Given the opportunity to do the right thing, they chose to go back to playground tactics.

Weak.

Franklinnoble · 06-16-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

You know, I don't *usually* have much of a problem with the moderators, but when I do take issue, I also don't have a problem with speaking my mind.

Taking it away was the wrong way for Ben to get the answers he was seeking in whatever thread that was.

The way the community responded with tons of "oops, had to edit that" posts in response was akin to a group of schoolyard bullies picking on the scrawny nerd just to make themselves feel good.

The solution to the 'spoiler' thread title was petty and childish. Given the opportunity to do the right thing, they chose to go back to playground tactics.

Weak.

Agree. I just figure the people would rather hear someone else call bullshit for a change.

Passacaglia · 06-16-2006, 08:14 AM

As someone who's made a playful jab at jbmagic about this: Yeah, it's stupid to take away his edit button, but damn -- it's just an edit button on a stupid message board! I think most of us 'schoolyard' types are doing it only because of the sheer irrelevance of it all.

SFL Cat · 06-16-2006, 10:27 AM

Damn stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Spiderman has never recovered from the clone disaster.

06-14-2006, 06:41 PM	#4
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I'd never heard of this "Civil War" series, and after reading that link... well, I'm glad I stopped reading comics years ago. I know politics have always made their way in to comics, but I think this is a complete joke. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	Parker's family is protected, as they live in the Avenger's mansion. Y'all should read the books before passing judgement. Civil War is an excellent series. __________________

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	What about his friends, do they all kick back at the Avenger's mansion too? C'mon, it's rediculous. It would be very easy to find someone who Spidey or any other superhero cares about. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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06-14-2006, 06:56 PM	#7
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	you know, the more I think about this, this doesn't work other than as a political allegory. I mean, isn't the whole point of superheroes not revealing their true identity to protect the lives of their loved ones? Isn't Spider-Man basically giving the ol' f-you to his friends and family by going "Yeah, I'm Spider-Man, and I'm proud of it"?

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Yeah, spoiling this isn't cool. Someone get jb his edit button back. What if I had spoiled the end to a movie that just came out or something.... not fun.

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