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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Boulder, Colorado Kicks Ass!
That's where I've been for the past 2 weeks on 'training' for my job. What an awesome town
. Great restaruants, right next to a national park, almost NO humidity, and LOTS of alcohol (including micro-breweries and a meadery.. and yes I now am in possession of some mead).The most intriguing thing, though, is the Dushanbe Teahouse, an entire Tajik teahouse, constructed in Dushanbe, Tajikistan, and shipped over piece by piece! Unfortunatly I only brought my camera to the National Park: ![]() That's what you first see when entering the park. First bridge on the trail we went on: ![]() Which leads to: ![]() Close up: ![]() And wide view: ![]() If you go a little further: ![]() And this fatass is me in front of those mountains: ![]() There is also a town nearby called Estes Park. Apparently it is just as photogenic: ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Here
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This must the nightly I'm drunk thread, because no one I know thinks Boulder rocks.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Boulder was very awesome. I can't wait to go back in August for another 2 weeks. We already have a list of restaurants listed that we missed on the first go around.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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I like Boulder, I think it's very cute, but can you imagine what it would be like to live there. I think the hippie culture would make me go postal.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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All college towns are very hippie... that's why we move away after graduating
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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No, Boulder isn't like all college towns. It's the Berkley of the mountains. Have always cheered for the Buffs and the town is indeed beautiful. (as is Estes Park), but the culture is just bizzare. I live about 20 minutes from Boulder. Go up there a few times a month for work. You couldn't pay me to actually live there. |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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I went to Rutgers. Boulder didn't seem all that strange to me for a college town comparatively.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Boulder is a place where a guy like Ward Churchill can call Americans who died 9/11 Nazis, says he gets excited when he sees large numbers of Americans die, commits academic fraud, and even lies about his heritage. . . and has over 100 profs spend thousands of dollars taking an ad out to support him. It's also a town where they refused to hang an American flag outside the library but did hang a dildo inside the library. If you spent more than a couple of weeks on vacation seeing the pretty sites, you'd see that Boulder was one of the biggest left wing towns in America. The joke in Denver is that Boulder is 10 square miles surrounded by reality. It's a great place to visit. It has spectacular scenery. Most of the people are pretty cool so long as you don't mention that you voted for a Repbulican candidate once back in the mid 70's. ![]() |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Geez ... can't some of you people have a discussion about anything without making it about politics or putting someone else down because they aren't on the same ideology you are? Why don't you keep the politics in the political threads?
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I've been to Denver/Colorado a few times the last few years. I was in Denver on business a few years ago and we didn't make it all the way to Boulder, but we did go up to Prospect for a tour. Beautiful setting.
Mrs. kcchief19 and I have gone to Breckenridge for vacation during the summer the last two years. Neither of us is a skier or has much interest in cold weather sports, but the summers are absolutely beautiful in the mountains. The only problem is that either my evergreen allergy, mountain sickness or a combination of both hits me hard. I'm fine in Denver, but in the mountains I get headaches, nosebleeds, lack of air, loss of apetite, fatigue -- the whole ball of wax. I played a round of golf and then went back to the condo and slept for about 12 hours. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Geez. . . can't some of you people understand that when reading the context of the thread, someone who lives near Boulder may have some insight into the makeup of the town? The politics of the town are a big part of what make it a strange place to live. The events described above aren't fabricated, they are real. Now, if your politics lean far, far left, you'll find Boulder a wonderful place to live. If you lean left, you'll find it difficult. If you are in the center, it will be nearly unbearable. And if you are to the right? It'd be less painful to hop on a slide with razor blades everyday. Personally, I can't stand the politics of the town. Not going to lie. Yet Boulder is NOT a typical college town. The reason IS politics. If you want to blind yourself to the facts, so be it. Do a search and find out how many times I've ever brought up politics in a non political thread. Get comfortable. It'll be a really, really long search. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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Boulder was how I fell in love with Colorado. After my best friend and I graduated from SDSU, he went to Boulder for a summer intern at NOAA. I spent a week with him staying in a small, quaint house on Pine Street. I would spend the glorious evenings on Boulder Mall watching the street magicians, listening to the musicians and rummaging though the shelves at Boulder Bookstore and Rocky Mountain Music. After that summer, I would be back to Boulder and Colorado every chance I got, even though I would be going to school on the east coast and then flying all over as a consultant. Other trips back to Boulder including hiking in the Flat Irons, skiing at Eldora, wading in Boulder Canyon and hanging around on Flagstaff Mountain. Even after I moved to Colorado (75 miles south of Boulder), I would spend weekends up there since at first, I knew more people there than here. But after while, I would only go up there for authentic bbq and for training classes. It's been a long time since I've been back but will never forget the wonderful weeks I spent there in the 1980s.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Like I said, I went to Rutgers. Boulder doesn't seem that strange to me comparatively. For example, our most celebrated alumnist is Paul Robeson, who supported Stalin in the 1950s and was a BIG USSR backer. Apparently Milton Friedman went to Rutgers as an undergrad, but you'd never know it if you stepped foot in New Brunswick.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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![]() The street performances were fun. I saw some rastafarian contortionist dude stick himself in a small box. Lots of musical performers as well, but it was funny watching all the hippies try to sing with their guitars when they'd just blown out of the water by some guy sitting a bench away on the Pearl Street Mall . And the Boulder Bookstore is freaking HUGE! You wouldn't know it by looking at it from outside, but it has all sorts of nooks and crannies. Great stuff .
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Like ISiddiqui noted, there are a lot liberal college towns. I went to college in the only city in the country with a local mandatory bottle recycling program, and we had our controversies over the flag and condoms -- have you seen the giant column phallic symbols that are the icon of the University of Missouri? I just don't see the point in running down a place because you don't agree with politics. I mean, c'mon -- Bucc likes Boulder and I think if you put him and Ward Churchill in a room one of them wouldn't walk out -- and I'm pretty sure Bucc would walk out. ![]() |
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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I wasn't actually talking about politics. I've lived in Madison, Wisconsin (the ultimate college town) and currently live in Santa Fe, New Mexico (possibly the most lefty place in America). I was thinking just about all the homeless old hippies who just hang around Boulder. I was also partly thinking about what that town did to Gary Barnett, which is a complete scandal imo.
I like Boulder, I will probably be visiting it this summer. But of all the college towns in America, it's the last one that I'd choose to live in. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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I've probably been in about 25-30 college towns throughout the country (I love the "true" college towns like Chapel Hill) and I would say Boulder is the second most liberal in the West (after Berkeley). In comparison to some of the ones in New England and other parts of the Northeast, it doesn't even compare.
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA
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Ahh, I miss Colorado. Did my undergrad in Colorado Springs, which is quite a contrast to Boulder. But the weather and the mountains are just such a great combination.
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Yeah, 300 days of sunshine is great if you are visting... not so great if you are trying to grow a lawn
.And as Bucc says, to go to the politics thing again, compared to Northeastern schools (especially liberal arts schools... look into Boudoin or Mount Holoyoke... and the cities they reside in) Boulder is nothing.
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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I lived in the South Hadley area for a couple of years. Boulder is way more liberal. Way more. Trust me, it's not even close. |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Hey, I didn't see lesbian orgies (and the lesbians were not the ones you want to see) on the front lawn of the University of Colorado - Boulder. So Boulder already gets a less liberal checkmark from me.
My ex had to leave Holyoke because some of the women on her floor 'declared war' on her because she was straight. The college has basically been taken over by militant feminists (well at least the student body).
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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I'm sorry, but if you think Santa Fe is one of the most lefty places in America, then your comparative view of Boulder also misses the mark. I've probably spent more time in Santa Fe than most other places that I did not live in and while it does offer a contrast to Los Alamos, Santa Fe is too big, diverse and cosmopolitan to be so one-dimensional. Even in the West, there are smaller artist colonies/towns that are much more exclusionary and non-diverse than places like Santa Fe and Boulder. Boulder is not even the most leftist town in Colorado (Nederland, Telluride, Ouray, Durango and other like them) and Santa Fe is not the most leftist town in New Mexico (Taos, Abiquie, Chimayo and those like them). But all of these places are definitely worth visiting. In fact, my wife and I going back down to Ouray the week of the 4th (my very favorite place in the world) and the following two weekends, I'll be in Santa Fe and Las Lunas. |
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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Taos, Abiqui and Chimayo are all smaller towns than Santa Fe, plus Abiqui and Chimayo I believe are both actually reservations, so the context is quite a bit different. Let's just say it's the most lefty place I've ever lived - including Boulder, Madison, and S Hadley. I am mostly going by the letters to the editor in our daily paper, the bumper stickers, and the daily protests. Not exactly a scientific approach, I grant. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Mad City, WI
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Boulder is a lot like Madison. They just have nicer scenery, a little more money, and a lot more Jerry Garcia sightings.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Are people in Boulder as full of themselves as people in Madison?
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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Both places have over 100,000 people, I believe. Madison is the state capital so you have all of the political elements and Boulder is home to many scientific and high-tech companies. I think the comparison between the two is pretty good but they are more diverse than what makes them famous.
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: sans pants
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Boulder is the one place my wife and I have both agreed to move to in the off chance we ever decide to leave DC.
I have actually never been there, but I fell in love with the state during a ski trip to Steamboat. I love college towns and have always wanted to live in one. I am highly envious of anyone who lives in Colorado. PS. Politics are only a big deal if you make it a big deal. This is America, folks. Ignore it if you so choose.
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: williamsburg, va
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I live in a certain college town, and I love it... I have the added aspect that it is a college/tourist town.. but anyway, having a constant influx of young, bright kids to me is a very cool thing.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PNW
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I'm going to be going to Colorado Springs, CO to train some people in a couple months, and then might be moving there if my fiancee and I like it.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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Madison is a lot bigger, I think. Boulder's population is I believe around 50,000. |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Burlington, VT USA
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You'd love Burlington then. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PNW
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Per http://www.city-data.com/city/Boulder-Colorado.html Population (year 2000): 94,673, Est. population in July 2004: 92,196 (-2.6% change) Males: 48,895 (51.6%), Females: 45,778 (48.4%) |
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tennessee
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Boulder is an absolutely phenomenal place to live. I moved out to Boulder after I graduated from college and stayed for 5 years. Sure it is known as being a liberal bastion in Colorado. If you want the real liberal atmosphere go to Vail or Aspen. But honestly, people in Boulder do not really have the time nor tend to exert the effort worrying about politics. They are too busy biking, hiking, running, sunning, skiing, drinking micro brews and having a general good time. With 300 plus sunny days a year how can you not just have fun?
They have a high transient population of youngsters moving through town. I would not classify it as a hippie town. There just are not any real hippies. Mostly kids from New Jersey playing at the hippie thing while daddy pays the bills. I met a ton of people that were perpetual students and pretty grungy, but not hippie or anything like you would see at a grateful dead show. Now, I did often feel like I was the only person in town that did not smoke pot. But, wherever there was pot, there were high quality micro brews! I miss it and would move back in a heartbeat. Of course when I lived there, the Buffs were at the top of the college football polls and nobody ever heard of an idiot named Ward Churchill. The one area where Boulder needs an upgrade is the beautiful girls department. They have a lot of good looking chicks, so you’re not left lacking. But overall, the town rates below average. But then again I went to Ole Miss so maybe I have an unrealistic expectation for incredibly hot chicks on college campuses. |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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Wow, it's a lot bigger than I thought. |
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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Madison's population 208,000. So I was right that it's the larger city. It's also a lot more diverse, and I think it would be a much nicer place to live.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Wisconsin.html |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PNW
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA
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Colorado Springs is kind of strange (or it was when I was there 10 years ago). A lot of military and a number of religious headquarters, so it's one of the more conservative areas of the state. The college I went to there was much more liberal and felt rather out of place. But the climate was absolutely gorgeous and the view of Pikes Peak looming over the city is quite incredible. And Denver is not much more than an hour away. If I moved back to Colorado, I think I'd want to go back to that area.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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That is spot on. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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The same rules apply here as to Boulder only more so because we are a lot bigger (the Pikes Peak area has about 500,00 people). Sure there are a lot of military and ministries but there are a lot of everything else as well. Too many mistakenly point to those making the most noise and paint everyone the same way. A good example is a city I visit at least once a year: San Francisco. Seems like everyone has a view of what SF is like (of those not been there) but every time I go there, I see very little of the more unique elements of that place. One would not know that it is one of the more liberal cities in the US because in everyday life, work, travel, socializing and hanging around, they are not in the forefront. It's the same with any other places that have an "extremist" label like Colo Springs, Boulder et al, you can always find what you are looking for. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Seattle
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I've only spent about a day in Boulder, but I'd love to go back. Great location, beautiful natural scenery, and I've always liked college towns. If I were to ever move someplace far away from lots of water, Boulder would rank very high on my list. Plus I could bond with the locals over my distaste for Rick Neuheisel...
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: sans pants
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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All he had to do was go down the road to Provo. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA
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I don't know, I found the military presence especially quite noticeable when I was living there. Of course, considering the people I lived with, it's not surprising that I noticed such a contrast. That and I tended to go to bars and such that had a large number of military personnel for it's client base. The area has grown considerably since I was there as well, so I'm sure the increased population is blurring the edges some. I never thought the contrasts were a bad thing. I was right wing when compared to the rest of the Colorado College campus, which put me pretty much in the middle compared to everyone else.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Tampa, FL
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I like to joke that I'm the only person who ever votes Republican in Los Angeles County. And the reason is because I'm a non-resident. ![]() But truth be told, I think the % of Republicans in Los Angeles County is somewhere between 30% and 40%. You just wouldn't know it because the newspapers and the local TV stations obviously have to play to the majority. And that's were our stereotypes on those sorts of things come from. |
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Mad City, WI
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My brother lived in Boulder for years before he and his wife moved into more affordable housing in Longmont. The people you are referring to are called "Trustafarians". If I ever left the Madison area, Colorado would be #1 on my list. I like Boulder, Golden, etc, but I'd probably want to live south / southwest of Denver. I have friends that live in Castle Rock (south of Denver, north of the Springs on I-25), and that area seems like a good spot. It's close enough to the Tech Center, the big mall, Colorado Springs / Pikes Peak, yet it's not a horribly long way away from I-70 heading west towards the ski resorts. |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tennessee
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That is something, when I lived in Boulder, the tech center was the complete south end of Denver and Castle Rock was a suburb where a lot of pilots lived. Now I hear the area has grown up so much that Castle Rock has basically merged with Denver.
The whole Denver are is such a great city, I'm starting to get all homesick for the old days. Heck, I remember all the Rockies games from season one in Mile High. I bought into a shared group of season tickets with a bunch of friends. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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One downside though. Last Friday we got a 45 minutes cool, steady rain shower. That was the first measureable precipitation since..........get ready for it..............August 20 of last year!
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
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The college may be militantly feminist (and probably Smith too) but I'd say Amherst is more your typical leftist campus town. But even here (or there as I'm back East now) that's only the more vocal people.OOC Bucc, do you actually work for/are connected with the Park Service? I ask because my sister was working out in Gunnison and now up in Glacier NP. Loves it out there. |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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How does your brother like Longmont. I will be moving out their in 2008 for a permanent relocation. My job is going to be moving to Greenwood village which is south of the Denver. I am looking at buying a home in Longmont, Morrison, castlerock. The problem with Longmont is you got to drive through downtown denver to get there. I want to live alittle closer to the mountains and hopefully some snow. So Colorado Springs is out. Boulder also along with the commute. Anyone have suggestions about nice out suburbs that meet what I at. Thanks. |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tennessee
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Longmont is actually further from Denver than Boulder. Castle Rock would be close to Greenwood Village, but not really closer to the mountains. You will get plenty of snow anywhere in the Denver area. |
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