Quarterback/Defensive Leaders Affinity Connection

Subby · 06-28-2006, 09:43 AM

I just made an offer to a player that would become a leader for my secondary. A ton of my secondary guys are happy (as planned). However, my QB is disappointed. This is the first time I have seen a link between QB and defensive leaders in the affinity department.

Interestingly, this never shows up on the QB's player card, nor does it appear on the Attitude screen for my roster.

So my question is - is this just a programming bug that shows up in the FA signing process or is there an actual affinity/conflict link between QBs and defensive leaders?

Anyone have a definitive answer?

QuikSand · 06-28-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

definitive answer?

Heh.

Subby · 06-28-2006, 10:30 AM

That's just the Bat Signal for Jim to swoop in and let me know the dealio.

QuikSand · 06-28-2006, 10:37 AM

The game's help file (let's not get anyone started on this again) sayeth:

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Team chemistry is fairly simple in nature. The team is broken into five leadership groups (backfield, receivers, offensive line, defensive front and secondary). Each group has a leader, which can be any player on the roster. Every other player in the group may have a conflict or affinity with that leader. Conflicts or affinities can affect the performance of every player in that group. Quarterbacks may have conflicts or affinities with all of the other leaders on the team.

To me, this suggests that:

-yes, it was put into the game deliberately, it's not a bug in the notification system

-yes, the chemistry stuff still applies between QBs and defensive position leaders

-this does not appear in the game in any other fashion (player cards, attitude advisory page) out of some kind of space-saving decision

But I have nothing definitive to offer, at all, of course.

WSUCougar · 06-28-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

But I have nothing definitive to offer, at all, of course.

heh

Subby · 06-28-2006, 10:56 PM

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In this case, the help file is incorrect. Thanks for the report.

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Definitive.

flere-imsaho · 06-29-2006, 08:37 AM

I wasn't confused about this before, but I am now. Thanks a lot guys....

Fonzie · 06-29-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Definitive.

Okay, so just to clarify: QB affinities/conflicts with defensive leaders do not matter?

Subby · 06-29-2006, 09:26 AM

Correctamundo

Daimyo · 06-29-2006, 09:30 AM

Ethan. Heh.

Vegas Vic · 07-02-2006, 03:41 AM

On a related note, I would like to see affinity/conflict apply to the coaching staff. If it's really bad, we might see a pop-up stating that the defensive coordinator just took a swing at the offensive coordinator on the sidelines.

Dutch · 07-02-2006, 08:36 AM

Good 'ole Buddy Ryan. Man, myth, legend.

Just doing a wiki search on Buddy revealed that his two sons are the DC's for Baltimore and Oakland. I had no idea.

sovereignstar · 08-15-2006, 08:59 AM

So are quarterbacks totally meaningless in regards to team chemistry? Or do their affinities (or lack thereof) with backfield leaders mean something? Because I don't think I've ever seen a QB be a backfield leader which leads me to think there is something up with their relationship to that position group as well.

Subby · 08-15-2006, 09:19 AM

Quarterbacks are the lynchpin for offensive team chemistry. The goal is to get a quarterback that has a strong affinity with all three offensive position group leaders.

The game isn't set up for them to be a position group leader...that's why you have never seen one as a backfield leader...

sovereignstar · 08-15-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Quarterbacks are the lynchpin for offensive team chemistry. The goal is to get a quarterback that has a strong affinity with all three offensive position group leaders.

The game isn't set up for them to be a position group leader...that's why you have never seen one as a backfield leader...

Is that definitive?

QuikSand · 08-15-2006, 09:45 AM

There's nothing definitive about the "lynchpin" stuff... but it's true that QBs are treated differently. They are not part of your backfield group - that's only RB and FB players.

Each QB on your team interacts with the position leader from each of your offensive groups -- backs, receivers, and line. If you work at your leadership structure, you can indeed arrange QBs with double or even triple affinities.

Whether QB affinities benefits the QB play, that of the affected group, both, or neither... I don't think there's any easy way to tell.

06-28-2006, 10:30 AM	#3
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	That's just the Bat Signal for Jim to swoop in and let me know the dealio. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

06-29-2006, 09:26 AM	#9
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Correctamundo __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-15-2006, 09:19 AM	#14
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Quarterbacks are the lynchpin for offensive team chemistry. The goal is to get a quarterback that has a strong affinity with all three offensive position group leaders. The game isn't set up for them to be a position group leader...that's why you have never seen one as a backfield leader... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

06-29-2006, 08:37 AM	#7
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I wasn't confused about this before, but I am now. Thanks a lot guys....

06-29-2006, 09:30 AM	#10
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Ethan. Heh.

07-02-2006, 03:41 AM	#11
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	On a related note, I would like to see affinity/conflict apply to the coaching staff. If it's really bad, we might see a pop-up stating that the defensive coordinator just took a swing at the offensive coordinator on the sidelines.

07-02-2006, 08:36 AM	#12
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Good 'ole Buddy Ryan. Man, myth, legend. Just doing a wiki search on Buddy revealed that his two sons are the DC's for Baltimore and Oakland. I had no idea.

08-15-2006, 08:59 AM	#13
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	So are quarterbacks totally meaningless in regards to team chemistry? Or do their affinities (or lack thereof) with backfield leaders mean something? Because I don't think I've ever seen a QB be a backfield leader which leads me to think there is something up with their relationship to that position group as well.

08-15-2006, 09:45 AM	#16
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	There's nothing definitive about the "lynchpin" stuff... but it's true that QBs are treated differently. They are not part of your backfield group - that's only RB and FB players. Each QB on your team interacts with the position leader from each of your offensive groups -- backs, receivers, and line. If you work at your leadership structure, you can indeed arrange QBs with double or even triple affinities. Whether QB affinities benefits the QB play, that of the affected group, both, or neither... I don't think there's any easy way to tell.

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