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Old 07-21-2006, 12:15 AM   #1
Radii
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After reading sabotai's thread I went and played a 180 man SNG on pokerstars. I'm not going to post all of the hands here(I don't have them formatted nearly as nicely as sab did, I may do that later though). Here are the ones where I was unsure of myself:


5th hand of the tourney, I haven't seen a flop yet:

I'm in the SB with T1470, 10/20blinds. two limp, and I complete with T7o(ok? 70 pot/10 to call). Flop comes KT3. Its checked around. Turn is a 9. I bet 60 chips into the 80 chip pot, get raised by one of the limpers, and fold


No tough decisions at all for the next... quite awhile it felt like. I played one hand based on a read and picked up an ok sized pot.


50/100 blinds. I've played about 10% of my hands so far here.

T1605, I have 66 in the BB. UTG+1 min-raises to 200. I have seen him limp in repeatedly, but I have not yet seen him min-raise. Its folded around to me. What should I do? Pot 350, 100 to call. I call, the flop comes AJ7. I check, he checks. Turn is a queen. I check, he bets half the pot, I fold.




New table, I haven't seen many hands here yet:

75/150 blinds. I have AT suited UTG+1, and 1505 in chips. UTG folds. I should??? All in, 3x BB raise, something else?



75/150 blinds. I have ATo in the small blind. T1505 chips. Its folded to me. The big blind has about 3000 chips. I should???? I struggled with this because I knew if I raised to 3x the blinds and he pushed, I'd call, but what do I do on a flopthat misses? All in on any flop? Or all in pre-flop?




75/150 blinds. I have T7s in the big blind. 1805 chips. Min raise from mid position and one caller. Pot is ~800, 150 for me to call. Call with T7s?



100/200 blinds. T1655 UTG+1. M is about 5.5. I have A3o. Push or fold?



100/200 blinds. T1855. A9o, UTG+1. I have an M of just over 6. Push, fold, or does anyone do anything else but push or fold here?



I was hoping to get some more difficult postflop decisions to post here, but I struggle a lot with that Orange zone play too where giving up a hand after a 3x BB raise sucks but I feel like I have a bit too much to go all in PF.

HOH3, here I come, I've done the first 4 or 5 problems, and will be putting a lot of time into that this weekend.

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Old 07-21-2006, 12:42 AM   #2
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As you can tell with my thread, I'm no expert, so most of what I say may in fact be wrong.

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I'm in the SB with T1470, 10/20blinds. two limp, and I complete with T7o(ok? 70 pot/10 to call). Flop comes KT3. Its checked around. Turn is a 9. I bet 60 chips into the 80 chip pot, get raised by one of the limpers, and fold

I dunno. People keep talking about pot odds, but as prime said in my thread when I completed with Q8o with 5 limpers, just fold. It's early in the tournament and you don't need to take any chances. With T7o, what kind of flop are you hoping to see? (A question I try to ask myself before I make any kind of play - something I picked up from reading Harrington's books) I would have just folded it.

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T1605, I have 66 in the BB. UTG+1 min-raises to 200. I have seen him limp in repeatedly, but I have not yet seen him min-raise. Its folded around to me. What should I do? Pot 350, 100 to call. I call, the flop comes AJ7. I check, he checks. Turn is a queen. I check, he bets half the pot, I fold.

Repeatably limped and then puts out a min raise from UTG+1? Sounds to me like someone who got a monster, knows he's supposed to raise, but doesn't want to chase out customers or is afraid to put money in the pot pre-flop. If he was a cronic limper, I don't know if he would just up and decide to steal a pot from UTG+1 with a min raise. Still, 350 pot and 100 to call with 66, I might still call it and see what happens.

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75/150 blinds. I have AT suited UTG+1, and 1505 in chips. UTG folds. I should??? All in, 3x BB raise, something else?

An M of just over 6.5. Well, a 3BB raise puts about 30% of your stack into the pot. Do you plan to call a reraise? If so, just push now. If not, you're going to be in the Red Zone (M of about 4.5). I would say just push it or fold (lean towards folding)


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75/150 blinds. I have ATo in the small blind. T1505 chips. Its folded to me. The big blind has about 3000 chips. I should???? I struggled with this because I knew if I raised to 3x the blinds and he pushed, I'd call, but what do I do on a flopthat misses? All in on any flop? Or all in pre-flop?

If you're going to call if he pushes, you might as well just push. He might fold some hands that are beating you (small pairs, 2 face cards) to a push that he would call or reraise with if you raise 3BB. I would say either push, or maybe just complete and hope he checks to see what the flop brings (passive play, but you are close to the red zone, but not quite there yet)

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75/150 blinds. I have T7s in the big blind. 1805 chips. Min raise from mid position and one caller. Pot is ~800, 150 for me to call. Call with T7s?

No.

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100/200 blinds. T1655 UTG+1. M is about 5.5. I have A3o. Push or fold?

Fold.

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100/200 blinds. T1855. A9o, UTG+1. I have an M of just over 6. Push, fold, or does anyone do anything else but push or fold here?

Fold, you're not quite desperate enough to push with that yet.

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HOH3, here I come, I've done the first 4 or 5 problems, and will be putting a lot of time into that this weekend.

Great book that has helped me a lot (even if it doesn't seem like it from my thread. ). The topics and discussions in there has gotten me thinking a lot more about my play. Now I just have to start making the right plays.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:34 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Radii
After reading sabotai's thread I went and played a 180 man SNG on pokerstars. I'm not going to post all of the hands here(I don't have them formatted nearly as nicely as sab did, I may do that later though). Here are the ones where I was unsure of myself:


5th hand of the tourney, I haven't seen a flop yet:

I'm in the SB with T1470, 10/20blinds. two limp, and I complete with T7o(ok? 70 pot/10 to call). Flop comes KT3. Its checked around. Turn is a 9. I bet 60 chips into the 80 chip pot, get raised by one of the limpers, and fold

I play it the same
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No tough decisions at all for the next... quite awhile it felt like. I played one hand based on a read and picked up an ok sized pot.


50/100 blinds. I've played about 10% of my hands so far here.

T1605, I have 66 in the BB. UTG+1 min-raises to 200. I have seen him limp in repeatedly, but I have not yet seen him min-raise. Its folded around to me. What should I do? Pot 350, 100 to call. I call, the flop comes AJ7. I check, he checks. Turn is a queen. I check, he bets half the pot, I fold.

Same I am basically looking to flop a 6 or I am folding maybe getting frisky if I flop an OESD with my pair but im looking to hit the flop hard or fold.

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New table, I haven't seen many hands here yet:

75/150 blinds. I have AT suited UTG+1, and 1505 in chips. UTG folds. I should??? All in, 3x BB raise, something else?

I would just fold this one
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75/150 blinds. I have ATo in the small blind. T1505 chips. Its folded to me. The big blind has about 3000 chips. I should???? I struggled with this because I knew if I raised to 3x the blinds and he pushed, I'd call, but what do I do on a flopthat misses? All in on any flop? Or all in pre-flop?


I would probably just push here since you only have 10 BBs and you certianly arent folding.
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75/150 blinds. I have T7s in the big blind. 1805 chips. Min raise from mid position and one caller. Pot is ~800, 150 for me to call. Call with T7s?

I would actually be tempted to push all in here especially if the other players were in the 2-3.5k range in chip count

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100/200 blinds. T1655 UTG+1. M is about 5.5. I have A3o. Push or fold?

I would fold I dislike Ax
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100/200 blinds. T1855. A9o, UTG+1. I have an M of just over 6. Push, fold, or does anyone do anything else but push or fold here?

Push if there are antes fold if there arent
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:45 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Radii
After reading sabotai's thread I went and played a 180 man SNG on pokerstars. I'm not going to post all of the hands here(I don't have them formatted nearly as nicely as sab did, I may do that later though). Here are the ones where I was unsure of myself:


5th hand of the tourney, I haven't seen a flop yet:

I'm in the SB with T1470, 10/20blinds. two limp, and I complete with T7o(ok? 70 pot/10 to call). Flop comes KT3. Its checked around. Turn is a 9. I bet 60 chips into the 80 chip pot, get raised by one of the limpers, and fold

I like to limp in, it's cheap and maybe you'll flop a monster.

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No tough decisions at all for the next... quite awhile it felt like. I played one hand based on a read and picked up an ok sized pot.


50/100 blinds. I've played about 10% of my hands so far here.

T1605, I have 66 in the BB. UTG+1 min-raises to 200. I have seen him limp in repeatedly, but I have not yet seen him min-raise. Its folded around to me. What should I do? Pot 350, 100 to call. I call, the flop comes AJ7. I check, he checks. Turn is a queen. I check, he bets half the pot, I fold.
Minimum raise in early position is usually a sign of a huge hand. I love the call here as if he has something like KK and the flop comes something like Q 9 6 you've got him for all his chips. 3.5 to 1 to call with a PP is good.

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New table, I haven't seen many hands here yet:

75/150 blinds. I have AT suited UTG+1, and 1505 in chips. UTG folds. I should??? All in, 3x BB raise, something else?

I wouldn't go all in yet. You're not that desperate and everybody and their brother is left to act behind you.

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75/150 blinds. I have ATo in the small blind. T1505 chips. Its folded to me. The big blind has about 3000 chips. I should???? I struggled with this because I knew if I raised to 3x the blinds and he pushed, I'd call, but what do I do on a flopthat misses? All in on any flop? Or all in pre-flop?

Completely different position than the last one. AT is a favorite over a random BB hand: All in.

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75/150 blinds. I have T7s in the big blind. 1805 chips. Min raise from mid position and one caller. Pot is ~800, 150 for me to call. Call with T7s?

Big pot odds, decent hand, I would call here as you can still afford it. If you miss the flop, check and fold.

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100/200 blinds. T1655 UTG+1. M is about 5.5. I have A3o. Push or fold?

Fold. Just like the A10, too many to act, likely you'll be dominated by a bigger ace.

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100/200 blinds. T1855. A9o, UTG+1. I have an M of just over 6. Push, fold, or does anyone do anything else but push or fold here?

If you had 800-1000 less chips I'd say all in, but you're not too desperate yet, I fold.

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I was hoping to get some more difficult postflop decisions to post here, but I struggle a lot with that Orange zone play too where giving up a hand after a 3x BB raise sucks but I feel like I have a bit too much to go all in PF.

HOH3, here I come, I've done the first 4 or 5 problems, and will be putting a lot of time into that this weekend.

I have not picked this up yet, is it just mainly problems. I'm almost done with #2 and it's really helped me.

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Old 07-21-2006, 01:37 PM   #5
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I have not picked this up yet, is it just mainly problems. I'm almost done with #2 and it's really helped me.

There are 50 "topics" (hands, basically) and usually several multiple choice questions, but sometimes just one or two. What makes this a great book is that he really goes deep into each and every question, covering basically everything. One of the things he focuses on is analyzing a player's betting and position to determine his likely holding.
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