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Not sure about this episode. It seemed like they were trying a bit too hard, and some of the House-isms were tough to follow. It also seemed like the editing wasn't that sharp. They crammed a lot of stuff in but fast-forwarded through a lot of it. I dunno.
It took me awhile to figure out what it was with her hair, but Cameron's got bangs now. I liked the old way better. She is fine, regardless. And what, no breast comments or sexual innuendo from House when he sees Cuddy in her nighty? Come on now.
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09-08-2006, 09:05 AM
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This was the most dissapointing thing in the show. As for the show in general... I like it, a lot... but I'm starting to feel the way I did about it 1/2 through season 1 when I stopped watching for awhile... In fact, this summer I saw a repeat of MAD TV where they made fun of it.. it's VERY VERY VERY formulaic in the medical portion of the show.. If I did not like the characters so much, the medical stories really leave something to be desired.
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09-08-2006, 09:08 AM
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Agreed. And I think what struck me this episode was that - even within the formula - they fast-forwarded through it. Sort of like: "Okay, viewers, you know how this goes, so we won't bother with the details."
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09-08-2006, 09:10 AM
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I thought it was a brilliant episode. I like Cameron's bangs, but thought she was still fine without them. I agree the lack of comment to Cuddy was the biggest disappointment. I loved seeing House steal the Rx at the end of the show, and thought it was great that he didn't know he was right about the Addison's (even if it was just a hunch.) House is more uncertain than ever, and I find the psychological undercurrents absolutely fascinating.
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Good point, hadn't thought about it that way. We've had what, one person die? And no one (besides his token "clinic" visit of the die) cured without almost dying because of the treatment given like 5 times? *sigh*.. I wish the characters weren't so damned compelling  ... For the medical side of it, I still think ER really takes the cake for not knowing what might happen at any moment.
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09-08-2006, 09:13 AM
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To be honest, to an extent it bothers me that he was right. It just furthers the idea that no matter what they'll fix the person, even when House makes an out and out guess that he knows is a guess.
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09-08-2006, 09:21 AM
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That's the point. I don't think it was a wild guess. House is still a brilliant diagnostician, and the symptoms made sense for that diagnosis. For the first time, at least that I have seen, he is doubting his own judgment and that prevented him from administering what is a fairly innocous test that would have been given to anyone who might have Addison's. |
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09-08-2006, 09:23 AM
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Interesting that they use the term "guess," and maybe Doc EF can comment on this. Aren't many diagnoses educated guesses anyway? I mean House pegged the thing in the end - it was a viable theory, even if it was a Hail Mary pass, so to speak. Why was that deemed a "guess" any more than his other theories in different cases?
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09-08-2006, 09:23 AM
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Okay, I cross-posted there.
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Hadn't thought about it that way, good point. I guess then maybe what to me (the professional TV Writer that I am) would have been better is if they did something similar, but a patient died and they found out later if they would have done what he said he would have lived. Of course, maybe this is in store down the road, who knows. Anyway. I still like the show, there are just certain aspects that bother me. But the character of House is one of the best characters on TV.
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09-08-2006, 09:30 AM
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Exactly. Everything doctors do are "guesses" except we call them a hypothesis. During internal medicine, we used a white board and wrote symptoms down and came up with the best hypothesis based on the clusters of symptoms, just like they do on the show. Of course, we didn't have so many exotic cases. As my professor said, "When you hear hooves, think horses not zebras." But, the basic process is the same. Come up with the most plausible hypothesis and test it via the appropriate measure (labs, scans, etc.) I loved it. Most good doctors are detectives, they just don't usually get the exotic, difficult to diagnose cases that House gets. However, there are a few clinics that do specialize in those types of cases. As a drastic tangent, that is the part of psychiatry that most medical students can't stand. They can't stand the uncertainty of ever finding out if they hypothesis is really correct, since most psychiatric illnesses cannot be confirmed via blood tests or scans. However, I really think within my generation functional MRI's or some more advanced to be discovered test will bring that certainty to psychiatry (and then neurologists will try to impinge on our diagnosis more.) |
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09-08-2006, 09:33 AM
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I love it when you talk medical.
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09-08-2006, 09:33 AM
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I do think more patients on the show should die. It happens, but not frequently enough, however, I accept that as a liberty taken for TV. Even brilliant doctors lose a fair percentage of patients when treating these obscure deadly illnesses. |
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09-08-2006, 09:36 AM
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The episode was a bit different, but I liked it. The first episode of any new season of TV is usually a bit different than the rest. The writers/directors of the show genreally try some new things or introduce new themes (or hairstyles).
Lady H_B was a bit misty-eyed at the end there.
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09-08-2006, 09:40 AM
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09-28-2006, 05:02 PM
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I've enjoyed this season so far. Some good stuff. A shame we ont be getting our "House" fix for another month...
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This has been my favorite season. I loved what happened with the 17 year old and how that affected House. I think I might go into withdrawls this next month.
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Who else is disappointed that he is not going to bang her when she turns 18?
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09-28-2006, 06:52 PM
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The "Alien Abduction" episode was a bit much. But other than that it's been quality.
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09-28-2006, 08:44 PM
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Not in my opinion. Seizures can produce some very vivid hallucinations. Then again, I might like that episode because it was the only one this season where I figured out the diagnosis well before it was revealed. |
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11-16-2006, 09:25 AM
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Glad that House is back. I've been enjoying the season quite a bit. Cameron hasn't been nearly as annoying as she has been in the past, so that's all good.
The only plotline I haven't enjoyed is this whole cop vs. House thing. I like David Morse. He's a great actor and has great screen presence, but I'm already tired of it. Outside of how his investigation affects House's relationship with the other core members (Wilson, Cameron, etc.), I find the whole thing kind of tedious and annoying. It's very similar to the plotline they tried to go with in the first season where that guy from Boston Public was brought in as the Hospital owner or whatever and was bullying House around and was going to force him to fire one of his staff. I found that annoying and lame as well and, luckily for me, they ended it pretty quickly. It seems like they feel they need to bring in some other Alpha Male every once in a while to really test House and push him around a bit. They've chosen the characters/actors well for this role, but I just haven't been thrilled with it. It was nice to see John Larroquette on the small screen again.
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Larroquette did a damn good job.
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Agreed. I disagree about the cop storyline. I think it is great. House acts like an asshole to so many patients, and I think it is nice to see some natural consequences finally arise from that behavior. Also, I think it is an opportunity to further explore how deep each person's allegiance to House really runs. Clearly, Wilson's allegiance runs very deep with him providing an alibi for the suicide. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the team members betrayed him (even though the cop is clearly turning up the heat on Wilson by freezing his assets.)
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02-02-2007, 09:26 AM
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House finally came back after another too long hiatus. While I usually enjoy when procedural shows like "House" (shows that follow the same format week-in/week-out) change things up a bit, I really didnt' like Tuesday's episode. It really felt like a waste of time.
I didn't really buy either the sick homeless guy or the rape victim. Something just sort of felt off about them. They didn't feel like complete characters and just seemed to be forced upon the show without any good explanation. The whole episode was very unsatisfying. I look forward to feature episodes that look to "break the mold", I just hope they're better executed. I have to say it: Worst. Episode. Ever.
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The Homeless guy came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with anything. Very strange. As for the other part, I think that it will depend on whether they build on what happened in order to further develop House's character. If they go forward like this episode never happened, then I agree that the whole thing was a waste of time. |
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I agree to some extent. The homeless guy was an utter throwaway piece that was totally disconnected from anything else. As for the rape victim, it seemed like they used her more as a sounding board for allowing the audience to finally hear some more intimate philosophy from House on life. The whole "rooms" thing was a humongous eye-roller, though. It's a medical drama, not a Shakespearean play on the human condition.
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The homeless guy just seemed to be there to give Dr. Cameron an opportunity to sit there and look concerned/tortured. She's very good at that. She does it a lot. It really wasn't necessary to have an entire subplot devoted to it.
I agree with the fact that the woman was there to be a sounding board for House, but it just felt so forced. The fact that she'd only "talk" to him and just wanted to "talk". It went on and on and on... It just wasn't handled very elegantly. At all.
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02-02-2007, 09:52 AM
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I have to agree. The episode was a disappointment because of the execution. The homeless guy was a complete waste of time and the rest of it could have been executed better. I love the idea of exploring House's psyche more and the main events in his life that have had a large part in shaping him, but I don't think this was the best way to do it. That being said, I still enjoyed Laurie's acting in this episode.
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Agreed... that episode was just poorly executed. As much as I try to suspend my disbelief during TV shows, it was impossible to do with either of the medical "victims" this week. Neither one made any sense at all.
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02-02-2007, 05:22 PM
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I have yet to watch the last ten minutes, but both my wife and I thought that this was the episode designed to show House's shred of humanity since he's been such an incredible dick lately. My wife (who absolutely loves this show) even said that she's getting tired of House's attitude/behavior, so it would make sense that you have to show the "softer side" every now and then.
But yeah, the execution leaves a lot to be desired.
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I didn't like the latest episode either as I didn't buy the rape victim. Was nice to see Geoffery Lewis again though. I hadn't seen him in ages. Just too bad he couldn't bring Clyde with him.
 I kept expecting some crazy turn at the end; like her father or her boyfriend raped her. And, why didn't anyone ever mention calling the police? Hello, if the girl really had been raped shouldn't they of eventually contacted the police? EDIT: Does the Hospital legally have to contact the police for every rape victim that they take in?
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The other thing about the rape victim was that at times she looked a lot like some weird combination of a poorman's Scarlet Johansen and a poorman's Elisha Cuthbert. And other times she didn't, usually when she started talking.
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For the sake of the show, I hope you're wrong. It was the most watched episode in the history of the series (by nearly 10%) and the most watched scripted program on television this season. Interesting to note too that the episode only lost 2% of its viewers in the 2nd half hour versus the first, which might indicate that at least first time viewers didn't dislike what they were seeing. http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...ticle_9884.asp
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I'm not too surprised by that 2% figure. I am not sure if a first time viewer would be as turned off by the episode as someone who watches the show regularly. Even at its worst, "House" is better than 95% of the crap out there. Hughe Laurie was great as always.
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Not that it hasn't been mentioned, but zero character growth from the inception of this series is starting to turn me off. They could just get rid of his three minions and the show wouldn't suffer all that much. It's like they got lightning in a bottle and don't want to risk losing it by changing anything at all.
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I'm really enjoying tonight's episode. I think they've done a really good job of adding a twist to the usual formula. Also, like House, I really like this week's guest.
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Surprising ending. One of my favorite episodes this year.
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man I better stop reading. I'm not up to the ending yet
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well thanky to you sir
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