Somewhat humorous FOF confession

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 05:29 AM

I've realized something that's pretty funny about myself with regard to FOF/TCY. Back in the day before TCY, I identified my players with the colleges that the game generated, and I paid attention to what college was listed. Since TCY was released, however, I don't pay attention to it at all unless they are imported from TCY. Somehow, my internal, uh, "logic," is telling me that now that there's a TCY, the FOF-generated colleges aren't their "real" colleges.

In short, I'm perfectly fine with my fake football players coming from fake colleges, but ONLY if those fake colleges are generated from another fake football game. I am NOT ok with my fake football players having FAKED fake colleges, dadgummit!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2006, 05:33 AM

You gotta get out more

Poli · 10-06-2006, 05:57 AM

What if they're injured in high school?

Dutch · 10-06-2006, 06:21 AM

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I identified my players with the colleges that the game generated, and I paid attention to what college was listed.

I always hoped Jim could somehow make this relevant. Even in the sense of team chemistry. Maybe just provide a way to make most of the amateur draft qualified players come from the bigger schools.

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

I always hoped Jim could somehow make this relevant. Even in the sense of team chemistry. Maybe just provide a way to make most of the amateur draft qualified players come from the bigger schools.

It would help me if their home towns matched up with their colleges. My research tells me that even the so-called "national" recruiting schools have 50-65% of their guys coming from in-state or nearby states. The major schools in hotbed states like California, Texas, Georgia and Florida run in the 75-85% home state players, and pretty much 95% coming from either in-state or nearby states. In the FOF logic, they come from all over the country. That certainly doesn't help me. Non-elite D1 schools in hotbed states (think Central Florida) are stocked 90% or more from home state, and it is quite rare for kids from outside the home region to go places like that.

Dutch · 10-06-2006, 06:43 AM

Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

It's a numbers game. There just aren't enough good players in Mississippi to sustain a program. Look at UGA's current roster. There are only 7 players from outside the Southeast. 57 are from Georgia. 25 are from other southeastern states (mainly Florida, of course).

	Name	Pos.	Yr.	Exp.	Ht./Wt.	Hometown (last school)
1	Mohamed Massaquoi	WR	So.	1V	6-2/196	Charlotte, NC (Independence)
2	Asher Allen	CB	Fr.	HS	5-10/180	Tucker, GA (Tucker)
3	Bryan Evans	CB	Fr.	RS	5-11/181	Jacksonville, FL (Ed White)
4	Sean Bailey	WR	Sr.	3V	6-1/172	Alpharetta, GA (Milton)
5	C.J. Byrd	S	So.	1V	6-2/187	North Augusta, SC (North Augusta)
6	Kregg Lumpkin	TB	Jr.	2V	6-1/224	Lithonia, GA (Stephenson)
7	Matthew Stafford	QB	Fr.	HS	6-3/225	Dallas, TX (Highland Park)
8	Paul Oliver	CB	Jr.	2V	6-0/208	Kennesaw, GA (Harrison)
9	Reshad Jones	S	Fr.	HS	6-2/188	Atlanta, GA (Washington HS)
10	Donovan Baldwin	CB	Fr.	RS	6-2/193	Ft. Lauderdale, FL (American Heritage)
11	Ramarcus Brown	CB	So.	1V	5-11/173	East Point, GA (Tri-Cities)
12	Brandon Miller	OLB	Jr.	2V	6-4/254	Colquitt, GA (Miller County)
13	Joe Tereshinski	QB	Sr.	3V	6-3/223	Athens, GA (Athens Academy)
14	Joe Cox	QB	Fr.	RS	6-1/218	Charlotte, NC (Independence)
15	Blake Barnes	QB	So.	1V	6-3/228	Baldwyn, MS (Baldwyn)
16	Kris Durham	WR	Fr.	HS	6-5/202	Calhoun, GA (Calhoun)
17	Antavious Coates	S	Fr.	SQ	6-4/207	Greenwood, SC (Greenwood)
18	A.J. Bryant	WR	Jr.	2V	6-2/199	Fort Valley, GA (Peach County)
19	Marquis Elmore	DT	Sr.	3V	6-4/289	Folkston, GA (Charlton County)
20	Thomas Brown	TB	Jr.	2V	5-8/208	Tucker, GA (Tucker)
22	Antonio Sims	S	So.	SQ	6-0/189	Hiram, GA (Hiram)
23	Prince Miller	CB	Fr.	HS	5-8/192	Duncan, SC (Byrnes HS)
24	Knowshon Moreno	TB	Fr.	HS	5-11/205	Belford, NJ (Middletown South HS)
25	Tra Battle	ROV	Sr.	3V	5-11/176	Forsyth, GA (Mary Persons)
26	Tony Wilson	WR	Fr.	HS	5-10/196	Daytona Beach, FL (Mainland HS)
27	Mikey Henderson	WR	Jr.	2V	5-10/163	Buford, GA (Buford)
28	Danny Ware	TB	Jr.	2V	6-1/222	Aragon, GA (Rockmart)
29	Thomas Flowers	CB	Jr.	2V	5-10/181	Austell, GA (Pebblebrook)
30	Kelin Johnson	ROV	Jr.	2V	6-1/194	Daytona Beach, FL (Mainland)
31	Quintin Banks	S	Fr.	HS	6-2/192	Warner Robins, GA (Houston County HS)
33	Dannell Ellerbe	OLB	So.	1V	6-2/228	Hamlet, NC (Richmond County)
35	Des Williams	FB	Jr.	2V	6-1/251	Dacula, GA (Dacula)
36	Brannan Southerland	FB	So.	1V	6-0/244	Dacula, GA (Greater Atl. Christian School)
37	Akeem Hebron	LB	Fr.	HS	6-1/214	Gaithersburg, MD (Good Counsel HS)
38	Marcus Howard	DE	Jr.	3V	6-2/222	Huger, SC (Hanahan)
39	Jason Johnson	FB	Jr.	SQ	5-9/191	Chicago, IL (Dunbar VCA)
41	Roderick Battle	DE	Fr.	RS	6-4/248	Atlanta, GA (Douglass)
42	Danny Verdun	OLB	Sr.	3V	6-2/248	Thomson, GA (Thomson)
43	Tony Taylor	ILB	Sr.	3V	6-1/237	Watkinsville, GA (Oconee County)
44	Marcus Washington	ILB	So.	1V	6-0/248	Keysville, GA (Burke County)
45	Jarvis Jackson	ILB	Sr.	3V	6-2/226	Atlanta, GA (Booker T. Washington)
46	Stephen White	FB	Sr.	SQ	5-11/217	Bronwood, GA (Terrell Academy)
47	Drew Williams	S	Jr.	1V	6-0/192	Blairsville, GA (Union County)
48	Fred Munzenmaier	FB	Fr.	HS	6-2/240	Norcross, GA (Norcross HS)
49	Shaun Chapas	FB	Fr.	HS	6-2/237	St. Augustine, FL (Jacksonville Bolles HS)
50	Darryl Gamble	LB	Fr.	HS	6-2/224	Bainbridge, GA (Bainbridge HS)
51	Akeem Dent	OLB	Fr.	HS	6-2/214	Atlanta, GA (Douglass HS)
52	Darius Dewberry	LB	Fr.	HS	6-3/224	Fort Valley, GA (Peach County HS)
54	Dale Dixson	NT	Sr.	3V	6-2/305	Garland, TX (Garland)
55	Jeremy Lomax	DE	So.	1V	6-4/230	Jonesboro, GA (Lovejoy)
56	Geno Atkins	DT	Fr.	HS	6-1/270	Pembroke Pines, FL (St. Thomas Aquinas)
58	Demarcus Dobbs	DE	Fr.	HS	6-2/270	Savannah, GA (Calvary Baptist HS)
59	Michael Lemon	DT	Fr.	HS	6-4/261	Lizella, GA (Stratford Academy)
61	Michael Turner	OT	Sr.	3V	6-4/287	Snellville, GA (Brookwood)
63	Chris Davis	OG	Fr.	HS	6-4/278	Jefferson, GA (Jefferson HS)
64	Ian Smith	C	Fr.	RS	6-3/298	Cartersville, GA (Cartersville)
65	Jeff Henson	LS	Jr.	SQ	6-3/248	Gainesville, GA (Gainesville State)
66	John Miller	OT	Fr.	HS	6-6/302	Cartersville, GA (Woodland)
67	Chester Adams	OT	Jr.	2V	6-4/320	Luvern, AL (Luvern HS)
68	Chris Abbott	G	Sr.	SQ	6-0/278	Douglasville, GA (Douglas Co.)
70	Nick Jones	C	Sr.	3V	6-3/296	Bowden, GA (Bowden)
72	Daniel Inman	OT	Sr.	2V	6-7/316	Hope Mills, NC (Southview)
74	Kevin Perez	C	Fr.	HS	6-3/274	Miami, FL (Killian)
75	Fernando Velasco	OG	Jr.	2V	6-4/327	Wrens, GA (Jefferson Co. )
76	Seth Watts	OG	So.	1V	6-4/313	Sandersville, GA (Washington County HS)
77	Zeb McKinzey	OG	Jr.	2V	6-3/276	Lilburn, GA (Parkview)
78	Josh Davis	OT	Fr.	HS	6-6/302	Jayess, MS (Tylertown HS)
79	Ken Shackleford	OT	Sr.	3V	6-5/325	Villa Rica, GA (Villa Rica)
80	Mario Raley	WR	Sr.	3V	6-0/193	Charlotte, NC (Independence)
81	NaDerris Ward	TE	Fr.	HS	6-5/252	Oakland, CA (McClymonds HS)
82	Mike Moore	WR	Fr.	RS	6-2/197	Coconut Creek, FL (American Heritage)
83	T.J. Gartrell	WR	Jr.	2V	6-1/185	Lithonia, GA (Stephenson)
84	Coleman Watson	TE	Jr.	1V	6-6/253	Atlanta, GA (North Springs)
85	Demiko Goodman	WR	So.	1V	6-2/192	Newnan, GA (Newnan)
86	Tripp Chandler	TE	So.	1V	6-6/262	Woodstock, GA (Woodstock)
87	Martrez Milner	TE	Sr.	3V	6-4/255	Oakwood, GA (West Hall)
88	Kenneth Harris	WR	So.	1V	6-3/212	Cherryville, NC (Cherryville)
89	Trahern Holden	TE	Jr.	2V	6-5/247	Warner Robins, GA (Houston Co.)
90	Ray Gant	DT	Sr.	3V	6-2/281	Chapel Hill, NC (Chapel Hill)
91	Kade Weston	DT	Fr.	RS	6-5/315	Red Bank, NJ (Red Bank Reg.)
92	Kiante Tripp	DE	Fr.	HS	6-6/272	Atlanta, GA (Westlake HS)
93	Andy Bailey	K	Jr.	1V	6-2/226	Athens, TN (McMinn Co.)
94	Quentin Moses	DE	Sr.	3V	6-5/257	Athens, GA (Cedar Shoals)
95	Gordon Ely-Kelso	P	Sr.	3V	6-2/227	Athens, GA (Clarke Central)
95	Jeff Owens	DT	So.	1V	6-3/290	Sunrise, FL (Plantation)
96	Brandon Coutu	K	Jr.	2V	6-0/182	Lawrenceville, GA (Collins Hill)
97	Brandon Wood	DE	Fr.	HS	6-1/265	Buchanan, GA (Haralson County HS)
98	Ricardo Crawford	DT	Fr.	HS	6-1/298	Cerro Gordo, NC (West Columbus)
99	Charles Johnson	DE	Jr.	2V	6-2/270	Hawkinsville, GA (Hawkinsville)

Even nearby LSU only has four guys from Mississippi. Now, they may be the BEST guys from Mississippi, but there just aren't that many.

Name	Pos.	Yr.	Exp.	Ht./Wt.	Hometown (last school)
1	Brandon LaFell	WR	Fr.	RS	6-3/180	Houston, TX (Lamar)
1	Tyson Andrus	DB	Fr.	RS	6-0/170	Lafayette, LA (Northside HS)
2	JaMarcus Russell	QB	Jr.	2V	6-5/248	Mobile, AL (Williamson)
3	Craig Davis	WR	Sr.	3V	6-2/195	New Orleans, LA (O. Perry Walker)
3	Buster Davis	WR	Sr.	3V	6-2/207	New Orleans, LA (Walker)
4	Jai Eugene	CB	Fr.	HS	6-0/175	Destrehan, LA (Destrehan)
5	Keiland Williams	RB	Fr.	HS	5-11/223	Lafayette, LA (Hargrave Military Academy)
5	Darrell Glasper	DB	Fr.	HS	5-6/162	Baton Rouge, LA (Redemptorist)
6	Terrell Clayton	WR	Sr.	1V	5-9/175	Shreveport, LA (C.E. Byrd)
6	Colt David	K	So.	1V	5-10/170	Grapevine, TX (Grapevine)
7	Ali Highsmith	LB	Jr.	2V	6-1/225	Miami, FL (Central)
8	Trindon Holliday	RB	Fr.	HS	5-6/170	Zachary, LA (Northeast)
9	Early Doucet	WR	Jr.	2V	6-0/213	St. Martinville, LA (St. Martinville)
10	Ricky Dixon	WR	Fr.	HS	6-2/205	LaPlace, LA (East St. John)
11	Ryan Perrilloux	QB	Fr.	RS	6-2/207	Reserve, LA (East St. Johns)
11	Kelvin Sheppard	LB	Fr.	HS	6-3/220	Stone Mountain, GA (Stephenson)
12	James Welker	QB	Jr.	1V	6-4/215	Tarzana, CA (Notre Dame)
12	Troy Giddens	DB	Fr.	HS	5-11/218	Hammond, LA (Hammond)
14	Sammy Joseph	DB	Sr.	1V	5-11/179	New Orleans, LA (Archbishop Shaw)
15	Matt Flynn	QB	Jr.	2V	6-2/230	Tyler, TX (Robert E. Lee)
16	Craig Steltz	DB	Jr.	1V	6-2/205	New Orleans, LA (Archbishop Rummel)
18	Jacob Hester	FB	Jr.	2V	6-0/225	Shreveport, LA (Evangel Christian)
19	Jonathan Zenon	DB	Sr.	3V	6-1/175	Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge)
21	Chevis Jackson	DB	Jr.	2V	6-0/185	Mobile, AL (St. Paul's)
22	Alley Broussard	RB	Jr.	2V	6-0/233	Lafayette, LA (Acadiana)
23	Renaldo Thompson	DB	Jr.	1V	5-10/172	Shreveport, LA (Byrd)
24	Keron Gordon	DB	Sr.	3V	6-1/199	Tampa, FL (Plant)
25	Justin Vincent	RB	Sr.	3V	5-11/213	Lake Charles, LA (Barbe)
26	Jared Fugate	FB	So.	HS	6-1/200	Brentwood, TN (Brentwood HS)
26	Richard Murphy	RB	Fr.	HS	6-1/198	Rayville, LA (Rayville)
27	Curtis Taylor	DB	So.	1V	6-3/196	Franklinton, LA (Franklinton)
27	Joshua McManus	WR	Jr.	1V	5-11/180	New Orleans, LA (Brother Martin)
28	R.J. Jackson	RB	Fr.	RS	6-0/197	Houston, TX (Westside)
29	Chris Hawkins	DB	Fr.	RS	6-1/180	Walker, LA (Walker)
30	LaRon Landry	DB	Sr.	3V	6-2/187	Boutte, LA (Hahnville)
30	Chad Baniecki	FB	So.	SQ	6-1/223	Seton, AZ (Seton HS)
31	Jessie Daniels	DB	Sr.	3V	5-11/200	Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge)
32	Charles Scott	RB	Fr.	HS	5-11/221	Saline, LA (Jonesboro-Hodge HS)
33	Jason Spadoni	RB	Sr.	3V	6-0/218	Kenner, LA (John Curtis)
34	Antonio Robinson	RB	Fr.	RS	6-1/199	Winnfield, LA (Winnfield)
35	Luke Sanders	LB	Jr.	1V	6-4/222	West Monroe, LA (West Monroe)
36	Patrick Fisher	P	Jr.	1V	6-5/240	Hyattsville, MD (DeMatha)
37	Daniel Francis	DB	Sr.	3V	5-11/181	Port Barre, LA (Port Barre)
38	Brady Dalfrey	P	So.	SQ	6-0/198	Carencro, LA (Carencro)
38	Anthony Zehyoue	LB	Jr.	1V	6-1/259	Baton Rouge, LA (McKinley)
39	Ryan Gaudet	K	Sr.	3V	5-9/170	New Orleans, LA (Jesuit)
39	Carlos Rachel	WR	Jr.	1V	5-9/176	New Orleans, LA (Shaw)
39	Caleb Angelle	TE	Jr.	1V	6-2/195	Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge)
40	Shawn Jordan	FB	So.	SQ	6-0/230	El Paso, TX (Riverside)
41	Chris Jackson	K	Sr.	3V	6-0/175	River Ridge, LA (John Curtis)
42	Steven Korte	FB	So.	SQ	6-2/230	Mandeville, LA (Fontainebleau)
42	Micah Metrailer	LB	Jr.	1V	6-0/240	Baton Rouge, LA (Central)
43	Harry Coleman	LB	Fr.	RS	6-3/225	Baldwin, LA (West St. Mary)
44	Danny McCray	S	Fr.	HS	6-1/205	Houston, TX (Westfield)
45	Quinn Johnson	LB	So.	SQ	6-2/230	Edgard, LA (West St. John)
46	J.D. Lott	TE	Fr.	HS	6-4/232	Shoal Creek, AL (Briarwood Christian School)
47	Tremaine Johnson	DE	So.	1V	6-2/263	Galena Park, TX (Galena Park)
48	Darry Beckwith	LB	So.	1V	6-1/225	Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist)
51	Jacob Ohair	C	.		6-2/224	Rancho Cucamonga, CA (Mt. San Antonio)
52	Ryan Willis	DE	Sr.	2V	6-3/276	New Orleans, LA (Holy Cross)
52	Jeremy Benton	LB	So.	SQ	6-1/212	Monroe, LA (Quachita)
54	Jacob Cutrera	LB	Fr.	HS	6-4/225	Lafayette, LA (Acadiana)
55	Andrew Decker	OL	So.	TR	6-4/275	Holland, OH (St. John's)
57	Derrick Odom	LB	Fr.	HS	6-2/202	Jackson, MS (Callaway)
58	Ace Foyil	LB	So.	TR	6-1/225	Mandeville, LA (Mandeville HS)
59	Leo Desselle	DL	Sr.	1V	6-0/266	New Orleans, LA (Shaw)
60	Steven Singleton	OL	Fr.	HS	6-3/295	Buford, GA (Buford HS)
61	Zhamal Thomas	OL	Fr.	HS	6-4/331	New Iberia, LA (New Iberia HS)
62	Robert Smith	OL	So.	SQ	6-2/259	Bossier City, LA (Airline)
63	Ryan Miller	OL	So.	SQ	6-6/305	Lake Charles, LA (Barbe)
64	Matt Allen	OL	Fr.	HS	6-3/285	Spring, TX (Collins HS)
65	P.J. Zimmerman	LS	So.	SQ	6-3/245	New Orleans, LA (Jesuit)
66	Max Holmes	OL	Fr.	RS	6-4/275	Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist)
67	Brandon Millen	OL	Fr.	RS	6-3/240	Bossier City, LA (Airline)
67	Mark Snyder	OL	Fr.	HS	6-7/284	Kenner, LA (West Monroe)
69	Garett Wibel	OL	Sr.	1V	6-3/303	Metairie, LA (Rummel)
70	Ciron Black	OL	Fr.	RS	6-5/315	Tyler, TX (Robert E. Lee)
71	Carnell Stewart	OT	Jr.	1V	6-4/299	River Ridge, LA (John Curtis)
72	Glenn Dorsey	DT	Jr.	2V	6-2/300	Gonzales, LA (East Ascension)
72	Cole Louviere	OL	So.	1V	6-5/262	River Ridge, LA (Archbishop Rummel)
73	Will Arnold	OL	Jr.	2V	6-4/320	Centreville, MS (Centreville Academy)
74	Brett Helms	OL	So.	1V	6-2/275	Stuttgart, AR (Stuttgart)
75	Brian Johnson	G	Sr.	3V	6-4/315	Tallahassee, FL (Godby)
77	Peter Dyakowski	OT	Sr.	1V	6-4/300	Vancouver, B.C. (Vancouver College)
78	Paris Hodges	OT	Sr.	2V	6-5/350	Vacaville, CA (Vanden)
79	Herman Johnson	OL	So.	1V	6-7/371	Denton, TX (Denton)
80	Dwayne Bowe	WR	Sr.	3V	6-3/213	Miami, FL (Norland)
81	Mit Cole	TE	Jr.	2V	6-4/260	Picayune, MS (Picayune Memorial)
82	Richard Dickson	TE	Fr.	HS	6-3/237	Ocean Springs, MS (Ocean Springs)
83	Kyle Anderson	TE	Fr.	RS	6-6/260	The Woodlands, TX (The Woodlands)
84	Andrew Wright	OL	Jr.	1V	6-7/248	Lake Charles, LA (Barbe)
84	Rahim Alem	DE	Fr.	RS	6-3/252	New Orleans, LA (St. Augustine HS)
85	Doug Planchard	TE	Sr.	3V	6-3/291	Baton Rouge, LA (Catholic)
86	Chris Mitchell	WR	Fr.	HS	6-0/176	Marrero, LA (John Ehret)
87	Jared Mitchell	WR	Fr.	HS	5-11/192	New Iberia, LA (Westgate)
88	Alonzo Manuel	DT	Sr.	2V	6-2/234	Jennings, LA (Jennings)
89	Keith Zinger	TE	Sr.	3V	6-5/260	Leesville, LA (Leesville)
90	Ricky Jean-Francois	DE	Fr.	RS	6-3/245	Miami, FL (Carol City)
91	Charles Alexander	DE	So.	SQ	6-3/295	Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge)
92	Tim Washington	DE	So.	1V	6-3/261	Sugar Land, TX (Dulles)
93	Tyson Jackson	DE	So.	1V	6-5/289	Edgard, LA (West St. John)
94	Chase Pittman	DL	Sr.	1V	6-4/258	Shreveport, LA (Evangel)
95	Pep Levingston	DE	Fr.	HS	6-4/258	Ruston, LA (Ruston)
97	Al Woods	DT	Fr.	HS	6-5/325	Elton, LA (Elton)
97	Al Woods	DT	.		6-5/325	Elton, LA (Elton)
98	Lyle Hitt	DT	Fr.	RS	6-2/272	Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist)
99	Marlon Favorite	DT	So.	1V	6-1/310	Harvey, LA (West Jefferson)

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Non-elite D1 schools in hotbed states (think Central Florida) are stocked 90% or more from home state, and it is quite rare for kids from outside the home region to go places like that.

That might have been a bad example to use.

Of the 85 players on the UCF roster:
Georgia - 9
Louisiana - 4
SC, PA, CA, and Canada - 2 each
NY, OH,WA,TX,MS,NC,IL,AL

That's 29 of 85, or 34% of the roster, being from out of state.
with more than 10% of the roster from outside the Southeast region.

Now, why on earth did I count this up? Because I remembered similar findings from one or the other of the college basketball games in the past, which basically showed that out-of-state/ out-of-region players were significantly more common than we usually perceive them to be.

It surprised me a little when I looked at it then, it didn't surprise me at all when I looked it up this morning.

Just to see if UCF was really a fluke, I checked the North Texas roster.
19 of their 113 players are from out of state (17%), but only 4 of 113 are out of region (just 3.5%)

And, just in case anybody wondered about states with fewer total prospects, 78 of 111 players (70%) on the Middle Tenn State roster are from out of state.

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That might have been a bad example to use.

Of the 85 players on the UCF roster:
Georgia - 9
Louisiana - 4
SC, PA, CA, and Canada - 2 each
NY, OH,WA,TX,MS,NC,IL,AL

That's 29 of 85, or 34% of the roster, being from out of state.
with more than 10% of the roster from outside the Southeast region.

Heh. That's funny. Bad example, but the point still holds to some degree: 90% of their players from the SE, 66% from Florida.

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Now, why on earth did I count this up? Because I remembered similar findings from one or the other of the college basketball games in the past, which basically showed that out-of-state/ out-of-region players were significantly more common than we usually perceive them to be.

In basketball, that's absolutely true. In football, though, I don't think so.

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Just to see if UCF was really a fluke, I checked the North Texas roster.
19 of their 113 players are from out of state (17%), but only 4 of 113 are out of region (just 3.5%)

Yeah, that makes more sense.

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And, just in case anybody wondered about states with fewer total prospects, 78 of 111 players (70%) on the Middle Tenn State roster are from out of state.

Yup. That's generally true for that kind of state. Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)

I could save you the trouble. Their roster looks like a GA-FL high school (3rd tier) all-star game.

edit to add: Meanwhile, South Florida looks like a much better example of what you were saying.
Only 9 of 90 are from out of state, with 4 from outside the region.

And, on another hand, Cincinnati is somewhere in between (which kind of makes sense), 46 of 114 are from out of state (40%), 26 of 114 from out of region (23%).

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Yup. That's generally true for that kind of state. Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)

I was sandbagging a bit, to account for guys from Ohio. I didn't need to, and there was no need to count up all the details. I only see six players from outside the SE on their roster.

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And, on another hand, Cincinnati is somewhere in between (which kind of makes sense), 46 of 114 are from out of state (40%), 26 of 114 from out of region (23%).

And even so, you'll never see a TCY roster or FOF draft class that reflects anything remotely resembling 60% in-state and 77% in-region, and therefore will never approach anything like UGA's 64% in-state and 92% in-region.

Ben E Lou · 10-06-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

...you'll never see a TCY roster or FOF draft class...

Let me rephrase that one: it hasn't been that way in the past. I am holding out hope that this will be more accurately depicted in future versions of the games.

Grammaticus · 10-06-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

Grammaticus · 10-06-2006, 08:52 AM

Maybe now Blake Barnes will wish he went to Ole Miss. Or maybe not, but he probably will not start at Georgia.

cthomer5000 · 10-06-2006, 08:58 AM

I know Rutgers is like 60% New Jersey guys, 25% Flordia guys, 15% other.

lighthousekeeper · 10-06-2006, 10:58 AM

Not to get off topic, but i can't believe there's a 371 pound sophomore. When I was a sophomore in college, I think I weighed 130.

timmynausea · 10-06-2006, 12:36 PM

Here's the breakdown for West Virginia:

PA - 30
FL - 19
WV - 17
OH - 13
VA - 8
MD - 6
AL - 4
NY - 4
LA - 3
NJ - 2
TX, GA, NC, SC, MS - 1 each

Just under 85% (94/111) from out of state, and that is skewed as probably less than 9 or 10 of the in state guys are actually on scholarship. Still, around 70% are from within a state or two.

Subby · 10-06-2006, 12:37 PM

emphasis on somewhat

Toddzilla · 10-06-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I know Rutgers is like 60% New Jersey guys, 25% Flordia guys, 15% other.

Virginia Tech is about 90% Virginia, and then a few players each from NC, DC, MD, NJ (Thanks for Adjepong!), and a player or 2 from FL, SC, GA, MA, TN, and OH.

yabanci · 10-06-2006, 03:54 PM

I suppose I can live with the cities being random. But when the #1 overall pick comes from a tiny liberal arts college that shut down its football program a few years ago, that bugs me.

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10-06-2006, 10:58 AM	#17
lighthousekeeper College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Not to get off topic, but i can't believe there's a 371 pound sophomore. When I was a sophomore in college, I think I weighed 130. __________________ ...

10-06-2006, 06:43 AM	#6
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

10-06-2006, 08:52 AM	#15
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Maybe now Blake Barnes will wish he went to Ole Miss. Or maybe not, but he probably will not start at Georgia.

10-06-2006, 12:36 PM	#18
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Here's the breakdown for West Virginia: PA - 30 FL - 19 WV - 17 OH - 13 VA - 8 MD - 6 AL - 4 NY - 4 LA - 3 NJ - 2 TX, GA, NC, SC, MS - 1 each Just under 85% (94/111) from out of state, and that is skewed as probably less than 9 or 10 of the in state guys are actually on scholarship. Still, around 70% are from within a state or two.

10-06-2006, 12:37 PM	#19
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	emphasis on somewhat

10-06-2006, 03:54 PM	#21
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	I suppose I can live with the cities being random. But when the #1 overall pick comes from a tiny liberal arts college that shut down its football program a few years ago, that bugs me.

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