UFC: Ortiz vs Shamrock III tonight (on free tv)

Deattribution · 10-10-2006, 03:34 PM

Just a reminder for anyone who might be interested in watching or checking out the UFC. 8 pm est live on Spike TV

Main card is ---

Tito Ortiz (203.5) vs. Ken Shamrock (204.5)
Kendall Grove (184.5) vs. Chris Price (185)
Jason MacDonald (185) vs. Ed Herman (186)
Matt Hamill (205) vs. Seth Petruzelli (203.5)

Preliminary Card:
Nate Marquardt (184.5) vs. Crafton Wallace (175.5)
Dustin Hazelett (167.5) vs. Tony DeSouza (171)
Josh Haynes (184.5) vs. Rory Singer (185.5)
John Alessio (169.5) vs. Thiago Alves (171)
Marcus Davis (170) vs. Forrest Petz (169.5)

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 03:36 PM

Can someone give me the history between Ortiz and Shamrock?

Maple Leafs · 10-10-2006, 03:38 PM

This is the one where the old guy is going to get killed on live tv, right?

heybrad · 10-10-2006, 03:40 PM

Taken from this link: hxxp://ultimate-fighting.blogspot.com/2006/06/ortiz-vs-shamrock-history-of-violence.html

After nearly a decade of bad blood, arch rivals Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock are stepping into the Octagon to try and prove who the better fighter is once and for all at UFC 61: Bitter Rivals on July 8th at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

Ortiz first encountered Shamrock's Lion's Den back at UFC 13 (5/30/97), when Tito was an alternate in the under-200 pound tournament. He got the call after Enson Inoue won his quarterfinal bout but could not continue due to an injury. The 22-year-old kid from Hunting Beach took full advantage of his opportunity, destroying his semifinal opponent in 31 seconds to advance to the finals where he would face Lion's Den fighter Guy Mezger.

In the opening minute of the fight, Tito snared Mezger in an inside cradle and began driving home knees to his head. After Tito had inflicted some serious punishment, referee Big John McCarthy separated the fighters, seemingly because Mezger had tapped. But McCarthy was only having Mezger's cuts checked, and when the action resumed, Tito quickly shot in for a takedown and got caught in a guillotine choke which forced "The Hunting Beach Bad Boy" to tap out.

Tito returned to the Octagon at UFC 18 to take on Mezger's training partner Jerry Bohlander. Tito clobbered Bohlander for over 14 minutes until the doctor stopped the fight due to a bad cut.

Things really started to heat up at UFC 19 when Tito defeated Mezger by referee stoppage due to strikes on the ground at 9:56 of the first round. After the fight, Tito bore a shirt that read "Gay Mezger is my bitch." This act of disrespect enraged Shamrock, and he immediately engaged Ortiz in a verbal sparring match.

In one of the greatest matches in UFC history, Tito went to war with Ken's brother Frank for the title at UFC 22. Frank submitted Tito due to strikes with only 11 seconds to go in the fourth round. After the match, Tito bore a Frank Shamrock T-shirt.

Tito and Ken finally got it on at UFC 40 (11/22/02). The bout lasted three action-packed rounds, with both fighters displaying tremendous heart and determination. At the end of the third, Shamrock's corner decided he was taking too much punishment, so they threw in the towel.

This brings us to present day, where the two veterans are currently training like animals for their upcoming showdown in July. You can also see Tito and Ken butting heads as coaches on The Ultimate Fighter 3.

When all is said and done, I expect Tito and Ken will bury the hatchet and show one another the respect they deserve. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Deattribution · 10-10-2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Can someone give me the history between Ortiz and Shamrock?

http://tv.ign.com/articles/737/737788p1.html

If you have a broadband connection, IGN has both previous full fights on that article for free.

They've fought twice, Tito won big the first time, and the last fight was considered by alot of people to be ended way too quickly (like 40 seconds into the fight) so they opted to do another fight this time on free tv to make up for the way the ppv match ended.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 03:45 PM

I will have to check this out. I catch the stuff that comes on HD Net every now and again, but I have never seen any of the series stuff. Since this is free, I will have to watch it.

JS19 · 10-10-2006, 04:16 PM

I saw the interview with Tito and Shamrock on that show on ESPN, I think the guys name is Steve Smith. Anyhow, I know Tito is fighting Lidell again in December, but whatever happened to a Ortiz, Griffin rematch? It wasn't all too long ago those two had an amazing fight that ended with an Ortiz decision.

Raiders Army · 10-10-2006, 06:24 PM

Tito will destroy Shamrock.

moriarty · 10-10-2006, 08:09 PM

Don't expect this one to go much longer than last one.

So far we've had one boring fight (Hammil vs. Petruzzi) and one pretty sweet grappling fight (Herman vs. McDonald). I supect the last fight is going to be a butt whooping so hopefully the Grove fight is good.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 08:24 PM

I need to see Shamrock putting on his cup!

UFC Rocks!

Neuqua · 10-10-2006, 08:34 PM

In case this is Shamrock's last fight, I just hope he does not go out embarassed. A true pioneer for UFC.

Logan · 10-10-2006, 08:34 PM

Watching a UFC match for the first time in years. Thanks for the heads-up.

Glad I tuned in.

DaddyTorgo · 10-10-2006, 08:53 PM

classy end for shamrock & ortiz showed class too

moriarty · 10-10-2006, 08:57 PM

Yawn ... but at least we won't be seeing that fight again.

bbor · 10-10-2006, 09:53 PM

All 4 fights were pretty poor....thank god it was free.UFC has hooked me for the last 2 ppv's.

JS19 · 10-10-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor

All 4 fights were pretty poor....thank god it was free.UFC has hooked me for the last 2 ppv's.

I stopped getting them after the Ortiz/Shamrock disaster. Not that it was all too long ago anyway, but im not gonna get the Franklin one either. I will, however, be getting Ortiz and Lidell. I don't see how that can be a bad fight.

bart_58 · 10-10-2006, 10:57 PM

who won ?

RGunner · 10-10-2006, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart_58

who won ?

Ortiz in about 2 minutes via knockout, then he taunted the obviously hurt Shamrock by mock-digging a grave and burying him and finally showed class after that with Shamrock..

BishopMVP · 10-10-2006, 11:58 PM

Was the Grove fight any good? I only got home for the Ortiz-Shamrock beatdown that occurred exactly as expected, and might try to catch the Grove/Price match-up if it was good.

Ortiz-Liddell should be good.

JeffNights · 10-11-2006, 12:07 AM

Tito Ortiz will get knocked the fuck out by Chuck liddell again.

Tito is strong, however, he cant take chuck down at will if at all.

Tito's ego will again make him try and stand with the Iceman, and he'll pay for it.

That being said...

SHAMROCK AT 31 YEARS OLD ABSOLUTELY PWNS THE CURRENT TITO ORTIZ.

WAR SHAMROCK!!!

EagleFan · 10-11-2006, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffNights

That being said...

SHAMROCK AT 31 YEARS OLD ABSOLUTELY PWNS THE CURRENT TITO ORTIZ.

WAR SHAMROCK!!!

It's a shame the way-back machine is broken.

10-10-2006, 03:38 PM	#3
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	This is the one where the old guy is going to get killed on live tv, right? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-10-2006, 08:34 PM	#11
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	In case this is Shamrock's last fight, I just hope he does not go out embarassed. A true pioneer for UFC. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

10-10-2006, 08:34 PM	#12
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Watching a UFC match for the first time in years. Thanks for the heads-up. Glad I tuned in. Last edited by Logan : 10-10-2006 at 08:45 PM.

10-10-2006, 09:53 PM	#15
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	All 4 fights were pretty poor....thank god it was free.UFC has hooked me for the last 2 ppv's. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

10-10-2006, 10:57 PM	#17
bart_58 n00b Join Date: Dec 2004	who won ? who won ?

10-10-2006, 03:36 PM	#2
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Can someone give me the history between Ortiz and Shamrock?

10-10-2006, 03:40 PM	#4
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Taken from this link: hxxp://ultimate-fighting.blogspot.com/2006/06/ortiz-vs-shamrock-history-of-violence.html After nearly a decade of bad blood, arch rivals Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock are stepping into the Octagon to try and prove who the better fighter is once and for all at UFC 61: Bitter Rivals on July 8th at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. Ortiz first encountered Shamrock's Lion's Den back at UFC 13 (5/30/97), when Tito was an alternate in the under-200 pound tournament. He got the call after Enson Inoue won his quarterfinal bout but could not continue due to an injury. The 22-year-old kid from Hunting Beach took full advantage of his opportunity, destroying his semifinal opponent in 31 seconds to advance to the finals where he would face Lion's Den fighter Guy Mezger. In the opening minute of the fight, Tito snared Mezger in an inside cradle and began driving home knees to his head. After Tito had inflicted some serious punishment, referee Big John McCarthy separated the fighters, seemingly because Mezger had tapped. But McCarthy was only having Mezger's cuts checked, and when the action resumed, Tito quickly shot in for a takedown and got caught in a guillotine choke which forced "The Hunting Beach Bad Boy" to tap out. Tito returned to the Octagon at UFC 18 to take on Mezger's training partner Jerry Bohlander. Tito clobbered Bohlander for over 14 minutes until the doctor stopped the fight due to a bad cut. Things really started to heat up at UFC 19 when Tito defeated Mezger by referee stoppage due to strikes on the ground at 9:56 of the first round. After the fight, Tito bore a shirt that read "Gay Mezger is my bitch." This act of disrespect enraged Shamrock, and he immediately engaged Ortiz in a verbal sparring match. In one of the greatest matches in UFC history, Tito went to war with Ken's brother Frank for the title at UFC 22. Frank submitted Tito due to strikes with only 11 seconds to go in the fourth round. After the match, Tito bore a Frank Shamrock T-shirt. Tito and Ken finally got it on at UFC 40 (11/22/02). The bout lasted three action-packed rounds, with both fighters displaying tremendous heart and determination. At the end of the third, Shamrock's corner decided he was taking too much punishment, so they threw in the towel. This brings us to present day, where the two veterans are currently training like animals for their upcoming showdown in July. You can also see Tito and Ken butting heads as coaches on The Ultimate Fighter 3. When all is said and done, I expect Tito and Ken will bury the hatchet and show one another the respect they deserve. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

10-10-2006, 03:45 PM	#6
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I will have to check this out. I catch the stuff that comes on HD Net every now and again, but I have never seen any of the series stuff. Since this is free, I will have to watch it.

10-10-2006, 04:16 PM	#7
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I saw the interview with Tito and Shamrock on that show on ESPN, I think the guys name is Steve Smith. Anyhow, I know Tito is fighting Lidell again in December, but whatever happened to a Ortiz, Griffin rematch? It wasn't all too long ago those two had an amazing fight that ended with an Ortiz decision.

10-10-2006, 06:24 PM	#8
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Tito will destroy Shamrock.

10-10-2006, 08:09 PM	#9
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Don't expect this one to go much longer than last one. So far we've had one boring fight (Hammil vs. Petruzzi) and one pretty sweet grappling fight (Herman vs. McDonald). I supect the last fight is going to be a butt whooping so hopefully the Grove fight is good.

10-10-2006, 08:24 PM	#10
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I need to see Shamrock putting on his cup! UFC Rocks!

10-10-2006, 08:53 PM	#13
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	classy end for shamrock & ortiz showed class too

10-10-2006, 08:57 PM	#14
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	Yawn ... but at least we won't be seeing that fight again.

10-10-2006, 11:58 PM	#19
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Was the Grove fight any good? I only got home for the Ortiz-Shamrock beatdown that occurred exactly as expected, and might try to catch the Grove/Price match-up if it was good. Ortiz-Liddell should be good.

10-11-2006, 12:07 AM	#20
JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	Tito Ortiz will get knocked the fuck out by Chuck liddell again. Tito is strong, however, he cant take chuck down at will if at all. Tito's ego will again make him try and stand with the Iceman, and he'll pay for it. That being said... SHAMROCK AT 31 YEARS OLD ABSOLUTELY PWNS THE CURRENT TITO ORTIZ. WAR SHAMROCK!!!

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