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10-23-2006, 07:49 PM
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Tony Kornheiser says T.O. is the Devil!
I know the guy is a cancer and he's selfish, but the devil??? Really? C'mon Tony, you're only hanging onto the MNF job because Theismann is making you look good in comparison.
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10-23-2006, 08:06 PM
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That was absurd and Kornheiser should be fined or fired. Moreover because it was clearly scripted and not just a moment of emotional outburst.
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10-23-2006, 08:44 PM
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Are you guys serious?
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10-23-2006, 08:45 PM
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Are you guys new to Tony's stuff?
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10-23-2006, 08:46 PM
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They're just not very big fans of sarcasm, that's okay though, they'll get used to him.
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10-23-2006, 08:52 PM
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If that's actually what he said, betcha a quarter he's either suspended or removed from future broadcasts.
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10-23-2006, 09:05 PM
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Suspended for using the phrase "making a deal with the devil"?
That's a bit of a stretch for the pc police don't you think? Last edited by ChiMatt : 10-23-2006 at 09:05 PM. |
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10-23-2006, 09:06 PM
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If that's what he said, then I don't figure anything is coming down. From the initial posts, I expected something more like a direct "he's the devil incarnate" or something.
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10-23-2006, 11:05 PM
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It would be an incredibly dumb thing if he is reprimanded for that. Besides being sarcastic, he is right. In the world of the NFL, TO seems to fit the character, thats all he was pointing out.
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10-23-2006, 11:20 PM
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if it was network TV I would say he could get in trouble, but It's espn and Tony is their boy.
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10-23-2006, 11:24 PM
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fired or fined??? why??? wtf???  |
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10-23-2006, 11:26 PM
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10-24-2006, 07:40 AM
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Well, the whole thing was so I could post the Waterboy's mama..."Foosball is the devil!" However...I found it inappropriate for Kornheiser to say that Jerry Jones made a deal with the devil (meaning T.O.). He went on for about a minute and referenced dealing with the devil at least twice and alluded to T.O. being the devil incarnate. I think that's going a little overboard and overstatements like this might be okay for PTI but they seem a little out of place for MNF. Then again, isn't that why they offered him the job? |
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10-24-2006, 07:43 AM
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I think any punishment against Tony for these comments, from what you're saying (I did not hear them) would be absurd.
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10-24-2006, 08:12 AM
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I don't care what the guy said, but this is the worst MNF booth that I've seen. Worse than when Miller was there. Far worse.
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10-24-2006, 08:16 AM
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Hey let's take what everyone says literally! Tony meant that TO is ACTUALLY THE REAL DEVIL!
When you call someone ACTUALLY THE REAL DEVIL then that is SERIOUS BUSINESS! |
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10-24-2006, 08:25 AM
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I don't mind Tirico, but I could do without the other two. Doesn't ruin the game for me, but adds absolutely nothing. All Kornheiser does is slag on Theismann (get in line). He's like the intelligencia version of Paul Maguire. And the celebrity interviews are getting old. Fast.
The unfortunate thing we all have to deal with is that for a "show" (and that's what it is) like MNF, it's all about bringing in as many viewers in as possible. So the booth has to be as much (or more) entertaining as informative. And that doesn't sit well with sports-first fans. The MNF booth situation is a smaller reflection of the bigger issues ESPN has been dealing with for years. That's why none of us enjoy watching Sportscenter anymore, because it's all about entertainment first, not providing sports information.
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Fixed.
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10-24-2006, 10:29 AM
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TO is the devil. You guys got something against the truth?
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10-24-2006, 10:43 AM
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I didn't watch the game last night.. (MNF has dropped so far off my radar screen..)
Who was the celebrity that just happened to be in the area and just happened to be strolling by the booth and was dragged in?
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10-24-2006, 10:45 AM
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Confession time: I forgot that the show wasn't on the main network anymore. It being cable, I'd say you're spot on.
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10-24-2006, 10:46 AM
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At best TO is a minor demon.
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10-24-2006, 10:46 AM
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Hank Williams Jr. I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't have used the term celebrity so loosely.
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10-24-2006, 10:48 AM
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Hank William Jr. or Pink. Hank William Jr. or Pink. You know it's a very difficult question.
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10-24-2006, 10:48 AM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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MNF is still on my radar - I mean, it's the NFL and it's on during the week! - but I have to admit that for at least 4 or 5 weeks, I have turned on NBC or ABC looking for the game and been freaked out until I remembered it was on ESPN. Old habits die hard, I guess.
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10-24-2006, 10:51 AM
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Was Pink there as well? I didn't see that. If it was the first quarter, I was at the gym. Or if it was toward the middle/end of the third quarter or fourth, I was already on to better things.
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10-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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No I mean as the theme song performer. Man that Pink is sexy but Hank is pretty cool.
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10-24-2006, 10:54 AM
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Isn't Pink the transvestite-looking thing from NBC, though? What are they doing promoting her on ESPN? And did she cop to stealing I Hate Myself For Loving You?
EDIT: Nevermind, I see what you're saying. I thought you meant they were both in the booth last night. Bitch still needs to give some props to Joan Jett, though.
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10-24-2006, 10:54 AM
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LOL, nevermind.
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10-24-2006, 11:01 AM
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I've heard this said several times, or something similar, and it confuses me... Are people upset that she covered Joan Jett, or is there some permissions/props process that Pink did not go through that others do? To me I just always figured it was your standard cover of a song and that she is making money off doing it like many others have. But some people react like there is something unique about this situation like she just went in, punched Joan Jett's puppy, and snatched the song away.
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10-24-2006, 11:09 AM
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I think when most bands/singers cover a song, 95% of their fans don't even realize that the song is a cover. (Ok, maybe 95% is a little high but, it is a good portion). I can't remember how many times people 10-12 years younger than me talk about how they like X or Y song and I have to inform them it is a cover. Given that Joan Jett is old enough to be either the mother or grandmother to Pink and her fans.. I'd imagine they don't even realize the existence of Joan Jett... Oh.. and I could by Hank Williams, Jr strolling by for Nachos and being pulled in. WTF else does he have to do....
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10-24-2006, 11:11 AM
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It's not a cover, it's the music with new lyrics. If she (or more likely that awful 4 Non-Blondes chick that writes her music) got permission, included the original songwriter in the credits, and is paying royalties, fine, but if not, fuck her. It wouldn't be the first time someone just ripped off a song and pretended like it was completely new.
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10-24-2006, 11:11 AM
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He meant the cowboys made a deal with the devil to get TO. Meaning TO is bad news and you would have to make a deal with the devil to avoid the mishaps everyone else had with TO. So maybe Jones sold his soul to the devil for TO to perform long enough without mishap for a superbowl, etc. Personally, I think the devil cheated jones, who knew? Last edited by Grammaticus : 10-24-2006 at 11:12 AM. |
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Are you ready for some nachos?? Monday night.. part-eeee |
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10-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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No, Jones cheated the devil, but the devil should have realized that Jones had no soul to sell. So basically, it's a wash.
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Wait, I always thought Jones was the devil. So he cheated himself? I'm impressed.  |
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10-24-2006, 11:23 AM
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Holy crap, your right. This is the reason I don't deal with the Devil or Mr. Jones. |
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10-24-2006, 11:24 AM
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Serves him right!
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Got it, now I understand. I honestly don't know the original, so I didn't realize this.
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10-24-2006, 11:35 AM
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It may be on the up-and-up, I don't know. I just know I was floored when I heard it being passed off as the theme song.
The only reason I'd even give them some leeway to do something like that in the first place is because it's basically a TV theme song. These new acts who are basically taking old songs and, instead of "sampling" them, just taking the entire music track and chorus and adding new lyrics to them, disgust me. This is the same thing, but at least it's not being sold like that Rihanna Tainted Love ripoff is.
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I'm trying to find how it is mentioned officially, but I can only find articles since it's not released as a single or anything. The articles mention Jett, but that just means the author of the article knows it.
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10-24-2006, 11:42 AM
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Stay off your lawn?
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10-24-2006, 11:42 AM
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Hey, don't diss Rihanna.
Her melody is different anyway, it's just the music in the background (which doesn't seem to be a direct sampling, fwiw, which is better than a lot of songs).
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I've only heard the song (or parts of it) 2 or 3 times, but I'm fairly certain that it even keeps the chorus from the original and she sings that SOS stuff over the top of it. There's another one out there that I've heard recently, but I can't recall what it is.
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10-24-2006, 11:45 AM
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see Vanilla Ice
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Please do.
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No, this is worse, IMO. They take the exact same music and leave the chorus in there. They're basically singing a new verse melody line and lyrics over the old song and incorporating the old chorus into a new chorus that fits the new lyrics. It's like they can't evne bother to do what Vanilla Ice did 15 years ago, which was to just take the bassline, add a note, and write the rest of the song around it. He's a freaking genius compared to these people...
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So what. What are covers then? All the kids always will say "hey you hear that new song by blah,blah...it's awesome!" when grown people know it's a cover of an old song. Seems like that has gone on for ages. Nowdays I just get a chuckle out of it.
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I like to call it the Puff-Daddy method.
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It's Diddy, bitch.
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