Anyone else enjoying the Cowboys this season

Kodos · 10-24-2006, 09:15 AM

I love seeing Parcells constantly irritated at T.O. Parcells better get this team together if he's going to live up to everyone's "He always wins a Super Bowl in his 4th season" crap. Can't wait to see him do his usual slash and burn on his way out routine.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 09:23 AM

This team is likely done for the year and Parcells will retire after the season. They have no O-line to protect a QB that at times looks like the love child of Rob Johnson, Chris Rix, and Dan Marino in his last year, and the mobile QB they do have is too green to not make the same number of mistakes the old guy will make.

At this point, if they think Romo has a future, they should just play him and let him learn. I'd rather have a guy throw a pick trying to make something out of nothing or learning coverages than have a supposedly "smart veteran" QB crap the bed when rushed, or look great for 75 yards of an 80 yard drive, then look to throw a pass all of us sitting at home yelled "You can't throw that!" before he ever raised his arm to throw.

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 09:26 AM

Good news is that with Romo in there TO should see just about every pass thrown his way.

Desnudo · 10-24-2006, 09:55 AM

Romo is the name of a back-up QB. Romo is not a good enough last name to be a consistent starter in the NFL.

scooper · 10-24-2006, 09:57 AM

With regards to TO, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with Parcells.

scooper · 10-24-2006, 09:57 AM

With regards to TO, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They

cthomer5000 · 10-24-2006, 09:59 AM

With regards to TO, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with Parcells.

scooper · 10-24-2006, 10:01 AM

OK. What the heck just happened with those posts?

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 10:01 AM

With regards to cthomer5000, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with scooper.

scooper · 10-24-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

With regards to cthomer5000, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with scooper.

I'm like a cancer in the lockerroom.

dbd1963 · 10-24-2006, 10:16 AM

Speaking of TO, did anyone else see the sideline shots last night where they show him going up to three different guys, and each guy doesn't talk back to him but gets that, "whatever, Dude, just get out of my face" look? He is killing the team chemistry, no doubt. His team mates can't stand him.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 10:35 AM

I love how he stood next to/behind Parcells right after the dropped pass. I don't know if he was looking for validation or what, but that came off as pretty pathetic. You see, TO, when you act like a self-absorbed, conceited asshole, people are less forgiving when you screw up. Some people might even take some pleasure in it - even on your own team.

Kodos · 10-24-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

You see, TO, when you act like a self-absorbed, conceited asshole, people are less forgiving when you screw up. Some people might even take some pleasure in it - even on your own team.

Oh, some people definitely DID take pleasure in it.

johnnyshaka · 10-24-2006, 01:00 PM

I hate the Cowgirls as much as the next guy...but, as an owner of both J. Jones and M. Barber...passing inside the 5 yard line is really getting old...not to mention a friggin' naked bootleg by Bledsoe.

duckman · 10-24-2006, 01:17 PM

You guys can go to hell. You go to hell and you DIE!

Hey Kodos, how about dem Dolphins?

spleen1015 · 10-24-2006, 01:30 PM

As a lifetime hater of the Cowboys, it is always fun to see this happen. It is even better to see them sign a guy like TO and have it blow up in thier faces.

MizzouRah · 10-24-2006, 02:11 PM

I'm with you on this one Kodos. I can't stand the Cowboys! Parcells looked really disgusted last night, good stuff!

Vince · 10-24-2006, 02:16 PM

I am definitely a fan of what the Cowgirls are doing this year

Sadly, my team isn't good enough for me to gloat.

Kodos · 10-24-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

You guys can go to hell. You go to hell and you DIE!

Hey Kodos, how about dem Dolphins?

Believe me -- your Cowboys sucking hurts you a helluva lot more than the Dolphins sucking hurts me. In fact, it doesn't hurt me at all. Which is the problem.

stevew · 10-24-2006, 02:20 PM

I like TO, but I hate the cowboys. Hopefully he moves onto a better organization next year.

Kodos · 10-24-2006, 02:21 PM

I hope he goes to the Raiders or Ravens. Or stays in small d. The jerk magnet theory predicts he will.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 02:27 PM

There are plenty of jerks in the NFL with whom he can share the love, so that's no reason to conclude he will stay with the Pokes.

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

There are plenty of jerks in the NFL with whom he can share the love, so that's no reason to conclude he will stay with the Pokes.

How great is it after 7 weeks already the money says TO will not be on the team next year. Doesn't that say it all?

How you would want the guy at all baffles me.

wade moore · 10-24-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

How great is it after 7 weeks already the money says TO will not be on the team next year. Doesn't that say it all?

How you would want the guy at all baffles me.

I'm VERY curious to see what happens with him if he gets run out of Dallas.

A part of me says someone HAS to pick him up. But who the heck would? And would they pay him much of anything?

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 02:46 PM

If someone gave Lawrence Phillips a 12th chance, then there's a match for everyone.

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I'm VERY curious to see what happens with him if he gets run out of Dallas.

A part of me says someone HAS to pick him up. But who the heck would? And would they pay him much of anything?

Well I don't suspect paying him a small salary is going to help. He won't be getting his props. Then again paying him a lot of money doesn't work either.

If you are a bad team he probably isn't going to be much in terms of helping the young guys or the team develop.

If you are a good team he isn't going to be much in terms of fitting in...that has been tried already.

Genius that TO is.

wade moore · 10-24-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Well I don't suspect paying him a small salary is going to help. He won't be getting his props. Then again paying him a lot of money doesn't work either.

If you are a bad team he probably isn't going to be much in terms of helping the young guys or the team develop.

If you are a good team he isn't going to be much in terms of fitting in...that has been tried already.

Genius that TO is.

I agree with everything above.

But then I get the "he's just so good someone has to take him" mentallity..

TO is now Lawrence Phillips because he has bonafide talent. This isn't even a Rodman situation. I think TO is unique in being so high on the talent spectrum AND the headcase spectrum.

hoopsguy · 10-24-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I like TO, but I hate the cowboys. Hopefully he moves onto a better organization next year.

As if the behavior of the organization is the problem here

If you want him to move to a team you like, which seems like some form of masochism, more power to you. But TO is the issue in this marriage, not the Cowboys. Same story as it was with San Francisco and Philadelphia.

Vince · 10-24-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I agree with everything above.

But then I get the "he's just so good someone has to take him" mentallity..

TO is now Lawrence Phillips because he has bonafide talent. This isn't even a Rodman situation. I think TO is unique in being so high on the talent spectrum AND the headcase spectrum.

I've never been a really big NBA fan, but wasn't Rodman one of (if not THE) best rebounders in the league? I don't think TO is so otherworldly that he is the be-all, end-all receiver -- he's just really good. I agree that he's no Lawrence Phillips, but I think he's quite comparable to Rodman.

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I agree with everything above.

But then I get the "he's just so good someone has to take him" mentallity..

TO is now Lawrence Phillips because he has bonafide talent. This isn't even a Rodman situation. I think TO is unique in being so high on the talent spectrum AND the headcase spectrum.

Lost in a lot of this is also the fact that the guy is 33. The talent portion of the equation is decreasing and I suspect that fact will escape the player.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 03:07 PM

He's no Phillips, which is why there is no question he will end up somewhere next year, if not with the Pokes.

rkmsuf · 10-24-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

He's no Phillips, which is why there is no question he will end up somewhere next year, if not with the Pokes.

If your team, other than Dallas, makes a move to get that guy as a fan you have to throw up in your mouth a little.

I mean aren't you basically saying that as a team we are incapable of designing a gameplan week in and week out to play to your strengths and expoit the defenses weakness and need to have TO so we can just throw it up to him and enjoy the sideshow he provides. That's the only thinking behind it I can see.

Coffee Warlord · 10-24-2006, 03:35 PM

I still want the all powerful TO + Moss combo out in Oakland.

With Marcus Vick throwing to them.

Subby · 10-24-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I hope he goes to the Raiders or Ravens. Or stays in small d. The jerk magnet theory predicts he will.

No chance Baltimore would take him.

JS19 · 10-24-2006, 04:01 PM

Anyone else not feel worried when TO plays against your favorite team? I'm a Giants fan and at no point last night was I like "oh shit, they have TO, he can take this game over at any minute".....kinda like how I feel when Pujols is facing the Mets.....I honestly just don't think he's all that great anymore....I still think hes a very good reciever, but he doesnt frigthen me....and if you are gonna take on player with TO type baggage, then thats the type of player he needs to be.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 04:03 PM

Maybe he and Moss should fuse into a new human being, enroll in college, and go play in June Jones' offense at Hawaii. That should placate them both.

lordscarlet · 10-24-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Anyone else not feel worried when TO plays against your favorite team? I'm a Giants fan and at no point last night was I like "oh shit, they have TO, he can take this game over at any minute".....kinda like how I feel when Pujols is facing the Mets.....I honestly just don't think he's all that great anymore....I still think hes a very good reciever, but he doesnt frigthen me....and if you are gonna take on player with TO type baggage, then thats the type of player he needs to be.

I think the problem is that they have no one throwing to them. If you had Peyton, McNabb, or Brady throwing you'd feel quite differently. (And they weren't actively tearing their team apart)

JS19 · 10-24-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I think the problem is that they have no one throwing to them. If you had Peyton, McNabb, or Brady throwing you'd feel quite differently. (And they weren't actively tearing their team apart)

You are probably right, but as of right now, whether its Bledsoe or Romo, I am not worried at all when he lines up against the Giants.

Maybe with Romo going in there now, since he has no history with TO and he probably knows how good he still is, he will start throwing the ball his way more often.

My point is that if he is let go by Dallas, he will be a yr older and he seems to be injured often, that his playmaking abilities aren't what they need to be for a team to take a chance on him. Now you put Steve Smith in TOs spot, I would take him in a heartbeat. Well actually I wouldn't take anyone who acted like TO, but I could understand taking a guy with that kind of talent (speaking of Smith).

lordscarlet · 10-24-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

You are probably right, but as of right now, whether its Bledsoe or Romo, I am not worried at all when he lines up against the Giants.

Maybe with Romo going in there now, since he has no history with TO and he probably knows how good he still is, he will start throwing the ball his way more often.

My point is that if he is let go by Dallas, he will be a yr older and he seems to be injured often, that his playmaking abilities aren't what they need to be for a team to take a chance on him. Now you put Steve Smith in TOs spot, I would take him in a heartbeat. Well actually I wouldn't take anyone who acted like TO, but I could understand taking a guy with that kind of talent (speaking of Smith).

You are not an NFL owner. Even Bill Parcells not wanting TO around was not enough to prevent Jerry Jones from signing him. Someone will do it.

wade moore · 10-24-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

I've never been a really big NBA fan, but wasn't Rodman one of (if not THE) best rebounders in the league? I don't think TO is so otherworldly that he is the be-all, end-all receiver -- he's just really good. I agree that he's no Lawrence Phillips, but I think he's quite comparable to Rodman.

My perception is that TO has a much bigger impact on an NFL team than Rodman had on an NBA team.

That being said, Rodman was never at a loss for a job when he wanted one and had talent still, so, maybe it is an apt comparison.

Would I want TO on my team? Probably not. But if I knew I could get him for a couple mil would that change my mind? Maybe. I think you'd have a hard time argueing with the fact that in 2004 he was surely one of the top 5 WR's in the league, if not top 2. 2005, who knows. This year, I think he's shown spurts but it's unclear if he's the problem or the QB.

So, I think you still likely consider him within the top 10-15 WR's in the league at a minimum. To get a guy like that for a couple of mil.. or even a couple of mil with hug incentive escalations, even with his attitude, you have to consider it, don't you?

Ksyrup · 10-24-2006, 04:34 PM

All I know is, I'm sure happy that the Broncos went after Javon Walker instead of this fruitcake.

JAG · 10-24-2006, 04:51 PM

Actually Kodos, I've enjoyed the Cowboys very much this year, in the games vs. Washington, Tenn., and Houston. The other three games, not as much though despite the numerous errors I liked how they fought vs. the Eagles. Whatever happens from here on out might not necessarily thrill a Cowboys fan, but hey, it'll be entertaining either way.

10-24-2006, 09:23 AM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This team is likely done for the year and Parcells will retire after the season. They have no O-line to protect a QB that at times looks like the love child of Rob Johnson, Chris Rix, and Dan Marino in his last year, and the mobile QB they do have is too green to not make the same number of mistakes the old guy will make. At this point, if they think Romo has a future, they should just play him and let him learn. I'd rather have a guy throw a pick trying to make something out of nothing or learning coverages than have a supposedly "smart veteran" QB crap the bed when rushed, or look great for 75 yards of an 80 yard drive, then look to throw a pass all of us sitting at home yelled "You can't throw that!" before he ever raised his arm to throw. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 09:26 AM	#3
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Good news is that with Romo in there TO should see just about every pass thrown his way. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

10-24-2006, 09:57 AM	#5
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	With regards to TO, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with Parcells. Last edited by scooper : 10-24-2006 at 09:58 AM.

10-24-2006, 10:01 AM	#9
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	With regards to cthomer5000, it's a broken record, but they're getting what they asked for. They should have never paired him with scooper. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

10-24-2006, 10:35 AM	#12
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I love how he stood next to/behind Parcells right after the dropped pass. I don't know if he was looking for validation or what, but that came off as pretty pathetic. You see, TO, when you act like a self-absorbed, conceited asshole, people are less forgiving when you screw up. Some people might even take some pleasure in it - even on your own team. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 09:55 AM	#4
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Romo is the name of a back-up QB. Romo is not a good enough last name to be a consistent starter in the NFL.

10-24-2006, 10:16 AM	#11
dbd1963 High School JV Join Date: Jun 2006	Speaking of TO, did anyone else see the sideline shots last night where they show him going up to three different guys, and each guy doesn't talk back to him but gets that, "whatever, Dude, just get out of my face" look? He is killing the team chemistry, no doubt. His team mates can't stand him.

10-24-2006, 01:00 PM	#14
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	I hate the Cowgirls as much as the next guy...but, as an owner of both J. Jones and M. Barber...passing inside the 5 yard line is really getting old...not to mention a friggin' naked bootleg by Bledsoe.

10-24-2006, 01:30 PM	#16
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	As a lifetime hater of the Cowboys, it is always fun to see this happen. It is even better to see them sign a guy like TO and have it blow up in thier faces.

10-24-2006, 02:11 PM	#17
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I'm with you on this one Kodos. I can't stand the Cowboys! Parcells looked really disgusted last night, good stuff!

10-24-2006, 02:16 PM	#18
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I am definitely a fan of what the Cowgirls are doing this year Sadly, my team isn't good enough for me to gloat. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

10-24-2006, 02:20 PM	#20
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I like TO, but I hate the cowboys. Hopefully he moves onto a better organization next year.

10-24-2006, 02:21 PM	#21
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I hope he goes to the Raiders or Ravens. Or stays in small d. The jerk magnet theory predicts he will.

10-24-2006, 02:27 PM	#22
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	There are plenty of jerks in the NFL with whom he can share the love, so that's no reason to conclude he will stay with the Pokes. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 02:46 PM	#25
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	If someone gave Lawrence Phillips a 12th chance, then there's a match for everyone. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 03:07 PM	#31
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He's no Phillips, which is why there is no question he will end up somewhere next year, if not with the Pokes. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 03:35 PM	#33
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I still want the all powerful TO + Moss combo out in Oakland. With Marcus Vick throwing to them.

10-24-2006, 04:01 PM	#35
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Anyone else not feel worried when TO plays against your favorite team? I'm a Giants fan and at no point last night was I like "oh shit, they have TO, he can take this game over at any minute".....kinda like how I feel when Pujols is facing the Mets.....I honestly just don't think he's all that great anymore....I still think hes a very good reciever, but he doesnt frigthen me....and if you are gonna take on player with TO type baggage, then thats the type of player he needs to be.

10-24-2006, 04:03 PM	#36
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Maybe he and Moss should fuse into a new human being, enroll in college, and go play in June Jones' offense at Hawaii. That should placate them both. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 04:34 PM	#41
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	All I know is, I'm sure happy that the Broncos went after Javon Walker instead of this fruitcake. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2006, 04:51 PM	#42
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Actually Kodos, I've enjoyed the Cowboys very much this year, in the games vs. Washington, Tenn., and Houston. The other three games, not as much though despite the numerous errors I liked how they fought vs. the Eagles. Whatever happens from here on out might not necessarily thrill a Cowboys fan, but hey, it'll be entertaining either way.

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