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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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The interesting story of how the Big East was rebuilt
I found this to be a very interesting story of how, when people thought the Big East was heading for disolvement after Miami and Virginia Tech left, the leaders of the Big East (mostly Tranghese) came up with a brilliant plan to save the conference and make it stronger today than was when Miami and VT left:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/sp...ast.ready.html Quote:
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College Prospect
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Thanks for posting the article.
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College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The DMV
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A great read.
Interesting about the OOC games. Since the Big East only plays 7 conference games, it seems like they almost have to play at least one tough OOC game to maintain strength of schedule. This will be even more important if the NCAA finally implements the 12 game schedule. Last edited by Klinglerware : 11-02-2006 at 11:07 AM. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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I don't know about that one. West Virginia beating Georgia in the Sugar Bowl last year, combined with the ACC falling on its face has gotten the heat off the Big East in football. Everyone knew the basketball conference would be solid.
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College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I think good coaches have had more to do with the Big East's resurrection than Tranghese. I do think the week night games have helped bring a lot of exposure to the league and the individual programs, though.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Good coaching definately has helped, but the league had to be kept together for that to flourish. Tranghese is one of many of the BE's top brass that were instrumental in keeping it all together and dealing well with the perception of weakness, especially after Pitt got beat down by Utah in the BCS Bowl a few years back.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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And so the cycle begins. "Our goal is to play tough OOC games against quality opposition in order to demonstrate to the country that we are a top-tier conference. Once we are seen as a top-tier conference, we will start scheduling various schools for the blind as our opposition because all of our coaches will become paralyzed with fear at the thought of losing."
*Note, I am not making fun of the Big East here, but at the thought process of 95% of the "Big Dog" football schools out there. |
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Strategy Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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Yeah, totally agreed. With the system the way it is, the Big East teams probably have the most incentive to go out and schedule some real out of conference opponents. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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The Big East teams need to really show up for their bowl games this season. WVU, Rutgers, Louisville, and Pitt are all bowl eligible right now and South Florida and Cincy each need one more win to get there.
Last season, the Sugar Bowl was the only one of the BE's four bowls that we won. If we can manage to post a winning record in bowl games this season, it will really do a lot to legitimize the conference. |
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H.S. Freshman Team
Join Date: Jan 2002
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i think it was a great article and actually will reread it. i do think there are good teams in the big east but the fact that at this stage of the season there are still 3 undefeated teams leads me to conclude that it is not a top conference but rather middle of the road.
i think without a doubt the SEC is the toughest football conference and there are no undefeated teams and this has hurt the rankings of those teams. i follow the pac-10 which this year is a pretty tough conference but i think quite a ways below the SEC. but what drives me crazy about the rankings is this. Cal went out and played Tennessee. Prior to the season this game looked a llittle easier than it usually would be. as it turned out Tennessee was much better than expected. my thoughts now are why did cal schedule such a potentially tough opponent. if Cal were to run the table (which i am not counting on but is possible) they will not be a #2 tream. but if they had played Ball State an won it would have helped them far more than a bad loss to Tennessee. i just think that to go by records of teams is just not a great indicator of a teams strength. what really tells you how good a team is - is when they have to play 2 or 3 tough games and 3-5 solid opponents. the problem is that somewhere along the way the opportunity for a really good team to lose 2 games is very possible and that takes them out of the BCS. i think there is no doubt that West Virginia, Louisville are good teams. i really admire the job Schiano has done at Rutgers and Pitt is on the way up. but to think that these teams have proven their rankings is just not the case. by the way i put Boise State in this same boat. the best ream they have played is Oregon State. and while Oregon State (or Hawaii) are solid teams it just isn't the same when you have to play solid teams week after week. let's face it there should be no rankings but a playoff system. that tells you who is the best. however i do applaud the job that the Big East has done after losing 3 top teams. |
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High School JV
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Mesa, AZ
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The Big East has certainly done a fantastic job, particularly in scheduling. To play devil's advocate though, would we be having this conversation if Virginia Tech, Miami and Florida State were not having relatively poor seasons?
What are the odds that those three teams again repeat mediocrity in the same season? In my mind, not very good. Those are three powerhouse programs that have no trouble recruiting top-notch talent. If they are all one-loss teams or one of them is undefeated then the Big East, even with three undefeated teams, unfortunately goes to the back burner again. As someone said, Louisville and West Viriginia have built great programs, Rutgers is building a very good program, Pitt has a pretty good progrm, but everyone else in the conference has a LONG way to go in my mind. And it is going to take a LOT of winning to overcome the recuriting advantage that most ACC schools have over Big East schools. |
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