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Old 02-16-2003, 04:18 PM   #1
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The Definitive Best PC Gamer Ever Thread

Okay, I'm going to do a study of the best PC Games of All Time according to FOFC members. To accomplish this I need you to provide a list of your top five PC games of all time. No ties allowed. I will take the top five on each persons list and use that to begin the process of determining the BEST ever. You do not need to list the games in any particular order at this point. Just your top five. Tark's top five:

Diablo
StarCraft/Brood War
Baldur's Gate
Operation Flashpoint
Medieval: Total War

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Old 02-16-2003, 04:22 PM   #2
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AOK:TC

Nothing even compares
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:24 PM   #3
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AOK:TC

Nothing even compares

And please don't use any abbreviations. Thanks.

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Old 02-16-2003, 04:29 PM   #4
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Championship Manager
Unreal Tournament
Warcraft 2
Monkey Island 1&2
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:34 PM   #5
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And please don't use any abbreviations. Thanks.

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Ok, sorry Age Of Empires II, The Conquerers Expansion.

Better?
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:35 PM   #6
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:38 PM   #7
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Ok, sorry Age Of Empires II, The Conquerers Expansion.

Better?

Yes thanks.

And to make this work we need everyone's input, so let's go folks!

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Old 02-16-2003, 04:39 PM   #8
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:41 PM   #9
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Deus Ex
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:44 PM   #10
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The college years
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:47 PM   #11
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:50 PM   #12
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Lets see.

Quake I. The only one I played because it was simple and I had better reflexes back then. These new ones are just too complicated.

Championship Manager 3. It got me hooked on CM.

Alpha Centauri. Play that still.

APBA for Windows. Just something about that game with Ernie Harwell. It was like listening to a game on the radio, best audio sports commentary of all time.

Zork I. The first game I ever played on the computer.
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:53 PM   #13
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DOOM II
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Hardball 3
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- These may not be the best of all time, but the most memorable to me. As you can tell, most of these games are from the same time period (93-97) when I was 13-17. You know, the time in your life when you can sit back and game for hours, sometimes days on end. The magic of "online" (ie modem) play are the reason why warcraft and doom are on the list.
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Old 02-16-2003, 05:03 PM   #15
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According to gamerankings (which computes an average from all available reviews):

1. Half Life
2. Unreal Tournament
3. Baldur's Gate 2
4. Championship Manager 3
5. Starcraft
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Old 02-16-2003, 05:31 PM   #16
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1. Panzer General 1
2. Steel Panthers 1
3. Master Of Orion 1
4. UFO: Enemy Unknown (X-Com 1)
5. Minesweeper
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:05 PM   #17
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morrowind
championship manager 2
fof II
x-com apocalypse
daggerfall

(edited to include a full top 5)
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:37 PM   #18
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1) UFO: Enemy Unknown (X-Com 1)
2) Half-Life
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5) Deus Ex

Edited to change things real quick
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:47 PM   #19
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1. Starcraft/Brood War
2. Panzer General II
3. Silent Service II (back in the day)
4. Front Page Sports Football (original version...another back in the day)
5. Civilization II
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:50 PM   #20
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1. UFO: Enemy Unknown - I still play it today
2. Planescape: Torment - Best story ever on the computer
3. Civilization I & II - Most time I ever spent on a 'puter game
4. RollerCoaster Tycoon - Wonderful creativity
5. Championship Manager - By far, the best text-based sim
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:55 PM   #21
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1. Warcraft III
2. Sam & Max
3. Diablo
4. Interstate '76
5. Half-Life (In large part due to mods)
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Old 02-16-2003, 06:56 PM   #22
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Civilization 2
Championship Manager 3
Civilization
Sim City 2000
Front Office Football 2

Europa Universalis 1 and Railroad Tycoon could easily replace FOF2 or Sim City 2000 if you ask me the same question in a few minutes.... the top 3 are locks, though.
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Old 02-16-2003, 08:28 PM   #23
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Civ II
Daggerfall
Baldur's Gate II
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Old 02-16-2003, 08:40 PM   #24
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Civilization II
Front Page Sports Football Pro '95
Freedom Force
Baseball Mogul 2000
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Old 02-16-2003, 08:47 PM   #25
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Civilization II
Pirates!Gold
Imperialism II
SimCity
Railroad Tycoon

Honorable mentions go to: Jack Nicklaus 6 GBC, OOTP4, Pharaoh, Zeus, Medieval, Conquest of the New World and NCAA 99.
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Old 02-16-2003, 08:50 PM   #26
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The Definitive Best PC Gamer Ever Thread

I think the best PC Gamer ever was when they reviewed Black Bass in the August 2000 magazine.
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Old 02-16-2003, 09:25 PM   #27
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The Definitive Best PC Gamer Ever Thread

I think the best PC Gamer ever was when they reviewed Black Bass in the August 2000 magazine.


No, the issue they reviewed "A Fork in the Tale". The article's headline was: "Forking Awful"!
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Old 02-16-2003, 09:46 PM   #28
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I dunno, I like me some Black bAss.

Oh, and CM97/98, FOF:TCY, Sim City 2000, Football Fanatic and Doom 2 were the top 5.
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Old 02-16-2003, 09:47 PM   #29
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FPS Baseball '96
FPS Football '97
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Damn, that is a hard thing to do... I have about 3-5 more I could list as well.
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Old 02-16-2003, 09:49 PM   #30
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Civilization 3
Ghost Recon
Grand Theft Auto 3
Medieval: Total War
Age of Mythology

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Old 02-16-2003, 09:54 PM   #31
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FPS Football Pro (aka FPS: Football 94)
Wolfenstein 3D
IndyCar Racing
Doom
Panzer General (1)

I love games. I play a lot of modern games. But nothing compares to the feelings that I got while playing the above. And judging by some of the lists, I'm more old-school than a lot of you.
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:05 PM   #32
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Sabotai, a lot of yours would end up on my top 20 list. Just mine ended up being a bit newer except for X-Com and Civ.

IndyCar, FPS Football Pro and Panzer General ended up with a lot of my time, as did SimCity (1 and 2000), Moria640, Ultima (4&7), Diablo, MOO, MOM, JNSE, JN6, Links and Wizardry. And those are just the older titles.
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:07 PM   #33
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Okay, this is good so far. Keep 'em coming! And thanks for participating!

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Old 02-16-2003, 10:12 PM   #34
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Yea, we've actually managed to stay on topic for once.
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:12 PM   #35
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I know what you're saying Blackie. I guess with this poll, I went with pure emotion and the feelings I got when playing these. If you asked me the same question next week, I might pick the 5 games I played most, or the 5 games I thought looked and played the best, regardless of hours spent on them....

Asking for top 5 games from a lifetime gamer is a cruel thing to do.
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:27 PM   #36
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Civilization 3
Ghost Recon
Grand Theft Auto 3
Medieval: Total War
Age of Mythology


No, not just your favorite games from 2002...
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:42 PM   #37
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Civilization 2
Masters of Orion 2
FOF 2
Championship Manager
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:53 PM   #38
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Civilization 3

And not Civ2? Fascinating.
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Old 02-17-2003, 04:13 AM   #39
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(avoiding voting for my own games which would be somewhat tacky )

1. Civilisation (various versions)
2. Warlords (various versions)
3. FOF
4. EHM
5. OOTP

(if I could sneak another in it'd probably be Age of Wonders)
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Old 02-17-2003, 04:16 AM   #40
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X-Com
Doom II
Front Office Football II
Ultima V
Bards Tale III
Pools of Radiance (the first one)
Master of Orion II
Civ II
Wing Commander III
Warcraft II

Though Championship Manager and X-Com are the top of list. None higher, I reckon.
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Old 02-17-2003, 05:06 AM   #41
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In terms of total time played and fun factor combined.

1. Grand Prix Legends
2. Steel Panthers
3. Civilization
4. FPS Football Pro
5. Baldur's Gate
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Old 02-17-2003, 05:42 AM   #42
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Front office football 2001
Half life
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Old 02-17-2003, 06:20 AM   #43
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Old 02-17-2003, 06:48 AM   #44
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Old 02-17-2003, 06:50 AM   #45
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The top 3 (in no order):
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Civ 2
X-COM
Championship Manager

If I absolutely have to extend the list, then you could pick any two of:
Half-life, Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Warcraft 2 or Alpha Centauri.
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:11 AM   #46
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I'm not sure how productive it is to try to identify the specific links in a series when there weren't overwhelming difference among them (in particular the FPS Football series). I'd hate to see such a worthy entry lose out because one person voted for the 95 version, another for the 94 version, etc. I personally got hooked on the original version, and (fairly obviously) enjoyed each upgrade... but which year's version was the "best" is hard to say.

So, with that caveat:

Front Page Sports Football ('97 may have been the best release)
Wizardry! (the original, if you must)
Front Office Football (FOF 2001 gave me the most play)
Championship Manager (00/01 so far)
Bard's Tale
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:13 AM   #47
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On Topic

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Yea, we've actually managed to stay on topic for once.

Yeah! But while we're talking about games I'd like to see some more diversity among the picks. As much as people like Elder Scrolls-- nobody picked Redguard. Redguard just happens to be the only major PC game with a black lead character and cast.

Have you people even given it fair consideration?

And just to show what a nice guy I am, I am gonna teach you all how to mack dem 'ho's in while online gaming...

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Old 02-17-2003, 07:17 AM   #48
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Warcraft II
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:19 AM   #49
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Out of the Park Baseball
Links
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Tetris


I never found shooters or wizard style games to be even remotely interesting. Usually bored by them within 5 minutes.
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:45 AM   #50
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System Shock 2
Railroad Tycoon 2
Microleague Baseball (for Apple II)
Max Payne
Alpha Centauri

I think Morrowind will make this list, but I haven't finished it yet. Talk to me in 6 months.
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