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Old 01-06-2007, 06:54 PM   #1
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Is there a chart somewhere (Skydog??? ) that shows the ideal height/weight for each position? When should someone be trained?

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Old 01-06-2007, 07:11 PM   #2
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In the game when you try to change a player's position, it will give you idea's on the player's weight/height for each position.
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:34 PM   #3
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I think there is an ideal height, although I've had a lot of success with short cornerbacks or short receivers. I believe, however, that the "ideal" weight is dependent on the height of the player. I try to bring my players' body mass ratio to average for that position if possible. That's been getting me some pretty good results for the most part.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:09 PM   #4
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I think there is an ideal height, although I've had a lot of success with short cornerbacks or short receivers. I believe, however, that the "ideal" weight is dependent on the height of the player. I try to bring my players' body mass ratio to average for that position if possible. That's been getting me some pretty good results for the most part.

I agree this makes logical sense - but does anybody actually know what bulking up/trimming down actually does?

For example, does creating a 330 DT help run defence, or does it make him too big to be effective?

I'm beginning to wonder whether it has something to do with injuries - does a very high body/mass ratio player suffer more knee/ankle injuries, and does a low body/mass ratio player suffer more 'knocks' - bruised ribs, elbow contusion, etc...?

This is one area of the game that I really am guessing at - any thoughts?
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:33 PM   #5
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The weight thing is a pain in my opinion, but I have seen some improvements from people who were subjected to it.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:01 PM   #6
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Is there a chart somewhere (Skydog??? ) that shows the ideal height/weight for each position? When should someone be trained?

Try this thread, especially post #43. It was for 2K4, but probably gives you some help in this area.

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Old 02-06-2007, 07:12 AM   #7
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Is there a chart somewhere (Skydog??? ) that shows the ideal height/weight for each position? When should someone be trained?

Perhaps this thread

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...8&postcount=19

may help you. Look at the average and you have a good idea on what to expect for a specific position.

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Old 02-06-2007, 07:42 AM   #8
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This should really be stickied.

Great job, Tium!
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:22 AM   #9
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Note that the height / weight data in there is not correct for veterans. Drafted players are often over / under weight for the position they are playing and once switched away from their drafted position may not be able to switch back.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:16 AM   #10
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I agree this makes logical sense - but does anybody actually know what bulking up/trimming down actually does?

For example, does creating a 330 DT help run defence, or does it make him too big to be effective?

I'm beginning to wonder whether it has something to do with injuries - does a very high body/mass ratio player suffer more knee/ankle injuries, and does a low body/mass ratio player suffer more 'knocks' - bruised ribs, elbow contusion, etc...?

This is one area of the game that I really am guessing at - any thoughts?

The first test players I bulked up as part of history generation suggest 320lb + DTs are better run stuffers than their 290-300 versions - I built up Earthquake and Typhoon for my DTs and they both held up at 10% plus tackle percentage for multiple consecutive years. previously they were 6-8%.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:30 AM   #11
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Jari, what did it do to their pass rushing? Anything?
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:15 PM   #12
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Try this thread, especially post #43. It was for 2K4, but probably gives you some help in this area.

Forgot to actually post the thread. Here it is from 2K4:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...6&page=2&pp=30
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:37 PM   #13
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Jari, what did it do to their pass rushing? Anything?

Not a huge amount, but the three guys I bulked up all had next no pass rush technqiue anyway - all strength.

I may have overstated the effects: their tacklie percentage actually ranged 8.5-11%, with most being in the 9's, while before they were generally 7-8 percent.

But there were definitely increases. I'm not a big testing kinda person tbh, and now I have my history, things will slow down...
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:43 PM   #14
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Is endurance related to weight?

The reason I ask is I have a 235lbs RB and a 330 lbs DT who are good players but hardly ever on the field!
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:16 PM   #15
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My jumbo DTs were durable, starting all 16 games for the majority of years
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