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Join Date: Jan 2001
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US Supreme Court rules against California Sentencing Rules
I tend to agree with the majority here. Sentencing should be something a jury does, not where a judge can tack on more years if he feels like it. Though the thing that really interested me was the combination of justices on either side:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/wa...rtner=homepage Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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Damn activists judges.
Just needed to get that out of the way as soon as possible. ![]()
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Interesting stuff considering we just covered sentencing in Crim Law.
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Just off the top of my head here, although this certainly works out well for the specific appealing party, I'm thinking this might backfire on the lighter sentence desires of some.
Seems to me that this provides another weight in favor of mandatory sentences, which can be used to remove juries from the process.
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I think the decision will just make California change the law so that judges can only modify the sentence based on the same level of evidence that the jury uses. It seems to me that the Supreme Court's biggest beef with this particular decision was that the judge used a lower threshold of evidence than the jury in making his decision.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Thsi is not surprising at all. It's basically the same decision as Ring v. Arizona, which Scalia was also in the majority. Scalia may a conservative, but he's a small government, liberty conservative.
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Have to read the rest of the opinion, but I'm not sure that's the case. It seems Ginsburg is saying that beyond a reasonable doubt is required, but also that judge engaged in 'fact finding' in increasing the sentance, which is something reserved to the jury.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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For those interested:
http://sentencing.typepad.com/ (THE Blog for Federal Sentencing Issues) RELEVANT PRECEDENTS (IN ORDER): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprendi_versus_New_Jersey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_v._Arizona http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blakely_v._Washington http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Booker (Warning: Mind Fuck) This is probably one of the few issues on which I am qualified to speak. A fair chunk of what I have been doing over the last two and a half years has been dealing with these cases and their implications. When/if I get a bit of free time, maybe I'll lay out in layman's terms the state of sentencing law as it relates to the 6th Amendment. |
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