Opinion

[Gotee7]

I am going into year 1982. As the Pittsburgh Steelers, I have won 5 out of 6 FOB, 4 straight. I started in 1974. (Thanks yabanci). Now, the salary cap is catching up with me and last year I had to let one of my stud CB go, my stud TE and a stud LB. I kept the core group of players intact (Bradshaw, Harris, Swann, Stallworth, Webster, Ham, Lambert, Bradley, etc.) and won my 4th straight.

Now, Franco has declined considerably, Bradshaw still looks strong in his 12th or 13th year as does Swann and Stallworth. I still think I have a shot to win the bowl, but Franco cannot start a whole season. The best player on the board is RB Marcus Allen and he is rated 7.1, So, I traded this years 1(32), 1983 (1), 1984 (1), 1984 (2) and my backup QB (rated 47/51) who was going to be my eventual replacement for Bradshaw for the #1 overall pick. Which I will use on Marcus Allen.

I know I kind of traded away my future for the now, but I figured Marcus Allen will be a stud for 8-10 years. What do you guys think??

[Narcizo]

Personally I think you gave away way too much for a running back but opinions will probably diverge on that. I'd have waited a year before going all out to trade for the first overall pick.

[Gotee7]

You may be right. I am worried about it, but only time will tell. I think I let the glory of winning another FOB get in the way of logic. BUT, I think I can actually win 1 maybe 2 more bowls with the guys I have. So, those picks at this point aren't that high and by the time Marcus is up to speed, I will have all my picks back ready to rebuild around him. That's what I love about this game!!

[PiemasterUK]

In real life that would be way too much to give up, you would be selling the francise down the river. However, I'm not experienced enough at FoF to say if that is the case here.

[Izulde]

I'd say you overpaid far too much.

[Gotee7]

Now that I look at it again. I think your right. I did sell the franchise down the river, but if I can get 1-2 more FOB and then sink into oblivion for 4-5 years then so be it. I will take my chances. I will keep you posted on how it all turns out.........

[Narcizo]

To be honest I think you're overvaluing the running back position here (in the game). If you've got a great quarterback having a top notch running back is really something of a luxury the cap might not allow you to afford. I think you can probably do almost as well with a 40-rated guy.

[DougWyatt]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

To be honest I think you're overvaluing the running back position here (in the game). If you've got a great quarterback having a top notch running back is really something of a luxury the cap might not allow you to afford. I think you can probably do almost as well with a 40-rated guy.

I agree here. That is a trade you *may* have made for Joe Montana - but, way to much at RB. Yeah, Allen may be a stud - but you can get a RB to run for 1500 and 4.4 alot cheaper than that. You'll probably see Gerald Riggs and Joe Morris put up pretty good careers; and would've been much cheaper.

Then you could've saved all that trade bait for next year when you draft Bradshaws replacement (Elway, Kelly, & Marino all come out !) - or if you couldn't get them - Dickerson isn't bad to build around. 83 was the year to sell out for a big draft .

[PiemasterUK]

Regardless of whether it was the right move, I'm interested to see how this works out.

Keep us posted.

[DolphinFan1]

Originally Posted by DougWyatt

I agree here. That is a trade you *may* have made for Joe Montana - but, way to much at RB. Yeah, Allen may be a stud - but you can get a RB to run for 1500 and 4.4 alot cheaper than that. You'll probably see Gerald Riggs and Joe Morris put up pretty good careers; and would've been much cheaper.

Then you could've saved all that trade bait for next year when you draft Bradshaws replacement (Elway, Kelly, & Marino all come out !) - or if you couldn't get them - Dickerson isn't bad to build around. 83 was the year to sell out for a big draft .

While I would love to play this way to draft Marino, this is why I don't play with real rosters in my dynasty. I don't know who will be a stud. I realize the x-factor will make some of the guys vary, but to know that Elway, Kelly and Marino are in it and should be good, to me it's kind of unfair. JMO.

[DougWyatt]

Originally Posted by DolphinFan1

While I would love to play this way to draft Marino, this is why I don't play with real rosters in my dynasty. I don't know who will be a stud. I realize the x-factor will make some of the guys vary, but to know that Elway, Kelly and Marino are in it and should be good, to me it's kind of unfair. JMO.

Hmm. I've found this to be sometimes the case. Usually in the later rounds, when a guy has probably been scouted wrong, and I know it from name recognition. But, more often I find myself handicapping myself by drafting/keeping players that I "liked" better IRL; when I would clearly go after different talent in a fictional atmosphere. I like to think this balances things out. IE .. I can't get away from John Jefferson (43/43) as my primary receiver - even though I could've drafted or landed a more productive/higher rated wideout - just cuz he was one of my favorites.

It seems to be a nice formula for fun. Players I enjoyed from the past on my team, win or lose. I've been going for 6 years, and have 1 FOF Bowl appearance (a loss).

[Gotee7]

I'll keep you posted on what I decide to do. I may actually trade the 1(1) and see where I land and possibly get a higher 1st round next year. Ya just never know what happens on draft day. I'll be playing this weekend and will update you on Monday. Thanks for all the advice.

[Gotee7]

I traded down from the 1(1) and ended up drafting Jeff Bryant DE (47/52) and a few other role players from 1982. I lost in the Conference Championship. However, in 1983 I tried as hard as possible to trade up and snag Marino or Elway and could not move up no matter what I offered. I did end up moving up and drafting Erik Dickerson and moving up again to draft DE Charles Mann. I won the FOB for the sixth time in 8 years in 1983. I have no #1's or #2's till 1986, but I am happy. In 1984, I was a wild-card and lost. Terry Bradshaw is now a free agent. It is time to rebuild around Charles Mann and Erik Dickerson (which by the way, he won Rookie of the year). As far as Marcus Allen, he was drafted by Carolina. They won the FOB in 1984 and he was Offensive Player of the Year, Bowl MVP.

[Narcizo]

You should never listen to people here. We're full of crap.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by DolphinFan1

While I would love to play this way to draft Marino, this is why I don't play with real rosters in my dynasty. I don't know who will be a stud. I realize the x-factor will make some of the guys vary, but to know that Elway, Kelly and Marino are in it and should be good, to me it's kind of unfair. JMO.

Well I sort of agree with you but another way of looking at it is that it's more realistic than playing with a normal draft set. In real life you can see how a lot of players are progressing in college, which gives you an idea of where you can be looking to draft in the future. Obviously you don't know, "Oh look, 2 HoF quarterbacks and a load of more good ones", but you have some sort of idea what to expect in the future. Unless you use draft files from a TCY game there's not that opportunity in the normal game.

[Gotee7]

LOL.

[PiemasterUK]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Well I sort of agree with you but another way of looking at it is that it's more realistic than playing with a normal draft set. In real life you can see how a lot of players are progressing in college, which gives you an idea of where you can be looking to draft in the future. Obviously you don't know, "Oh look, 2 HoF quarterbacks and a load of more good ones", but you have some sort of idea what to expect in the future.

Yes. In real life you can make astute observations such as:

'Wow, that Ryan Leaf kid is good. In fact, I think he might be better than Peyton Manning'

[redfox000]

...or "I would definitely draft Rick Mirer over Drew Bledsoe"

[TimL]

... draft Michael Jordan? We need a center. Sam Bowie it is!

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Hey, Bowie could have been really good.