What worse Detroit or Oakland?

[heybrad]

Answer: Detroit according to ESPN's Ultimate Standings.

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Follow the link for the full explanation, but here's the rankings...

1. Buffalo Sabres
2. San Antonio Spurs
3. Dallas Mavericks
4. Indianapolis Colts
5. Detroit Pistons
6. Anaheim Ducks
7. Los Angeles Angels
8. Nashville Predators
9. Pittsburgh Steelers
10. Carolina Hurricanes
11. Phoenix Suns
12. Detroit Tigers
13. Seattle Seahawks
14. Minnesota Twins
15. Atlanta Braves
16. Milwaukee Brewers
17. Tampa Bay Lightning
18. Detroit Red Wings
19. St. Louis Cardinals
20. Dallas Stars
21. Miami Heat
22. San Jose Sharks
23. Green Bay Packers
24. Denver Broncos
25. Jacksonville Jaguars
26. Utah Jazz
27. Houston Rockets
28. Chicago White Sox
29. Minnesota Wild
30. Houston Astros
31. New England Patriots
32. Baltimore Ravens
33. Cleveland Indians
34. Ottawa Senators
35. Pittsburgh Penguins
36. Cleveland Cavaliers
37. Carolina Panthers
38. Calgary Flames
39. Chicago Bulls
40. Colorado Avalanche
41. Toronto Blue Jays
42. New Orleans Saints
43. Arizona Diamondbacks
44. New Orleans Hornets
45. Toronto Raptors
46. Edmonton Oilers
47. Washington Wizards
48. New York Yankees
49. Philadelphia Eagles
50. Chicago Bears
51. Denver Nuggets
52. Oakland Athletics
53. Texas Rangers
54. New Jersey Devils
55. Atlanta Thrashers
56. Buffalo Bills
57. Cincinnati Reds
58. Orlando Magic
59. San Diego Chargers
60. Los Angeles Dodgers
61. New York Mets
62. Tennessee Titans
63. St. Louis Blues
64. San Diego Padres
65. Washington Capitals
66. Kansas City Chiefs
67. Los Angeles Lakers
68. Kansas City Royals
69. Philadelphia Phillies
70. Montreal Canadiens
71. Phoenix Coyotes
72. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
73. Miami Dolphins
74. Vancouver Canucks
75. Pittsburgh Pirates
76. Columbus Blue Jackets
77. Los Angeles Clippers
78. Washington Nationals
79. New York Jets
80. Charlotte Bobcats
81. St. Louis Rams
82. Dallas Cowboys
83. New York Rangers
84. Florida Marlins
85. Colorado Rockies
86. Tampa Bay Devil Rays
87. New York Islanders
88. Boston Red Sox
89. Golden State Warriors
90. Seattle Mariners
91. San Francisco Giants
92. Portland Trail Blazers
93. Houston Texans
94. Milwaukee Bucks
95. Memphis Grizzlies
96. Philadelphia Flyers
97. Arizona Cardinals
98. Chicago Cubs
99. Toronto Maple Leafs
100. San Francisco 49ers
101. New York Giants
102. Cincinnati Bengals
103. Los Angeles Kings
104. New Jersey Nets
105. Baltimore Orioles
106. Atlanta Falcons
107. Florida Panthers
108. Washington Redskins
109. Minnesota T'wolves
110. Sacramento Kings
111. Seattle Sonics
112. Boston Celtics
113. Atlanta Hawks
114. Indiana Pacers
115. Philadelphia 76ers
116. Cleveland Browns
117. Boston Bruins
118. Chicago Blackhawks
119. Minnesota Vikings
120. New York Knicks
121. Oakland Raiders
122. Detroit Lions

[Schmidty]

Yeah, but if you take into account the rankings of the other 3 franchises, Detroit is the best.

[Lorena]

Wait, the Packers above the Chargers? That's ridiculous

[RedKingGold]

I refuse to respect any poll ranking sports teams values that has a mid-level hockey team holding the top spot.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I refuse to respect any poll ranking sports teams values that has a mid-level hockey team holding the top spot.

Mid-level? They are currently either have the best (or second best) record in the league.

[JediKooter]

What's a Detroit?

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Mid-level? They are currently either have the best (or second best) record in the league.

Misspoke. "Mid-major market" hockey team

[JPhillips]

102 for the Bengals is way off. They have a great stadium, a newly energized fan base, a lot of good, young players, a highly respected coach and have gone five years now without a losing record. The off-field issues shouldn't but them 22 spots behind the Charlotte Bobcats.

[Rizon]

Oakland gotta represent.

[Brillig]

Originally Posted by Rizon

Oakland gotta represent.

Commitment to pre-season, baby!

[Easy Mac]

first off,

hey brad

second

What worse Detroit or Oakland?

Thats like asking what's worse, sleeping with Kathy Griffin or Vicki Lewis

[lordscarlet]

Um. I didn't read the article, but the Nationals are above the Redskins??

[stevew]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

102 for the Bengals is way off. They have a great stadium, a newly energized fan base, a lot of good, young players, a highly respected coach and have gone five years now without a losing record. The off-field issues shouldn't but them 22 spots behind the Charlotte Bobcats.

Read how they did the rankings, it's not really based on the things you might think it is.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Um. I didn't read the article, but the Nationals are above the Redskins??

I'm thinking this is a big factor..

Fourth, for an eighth category, Bang for the Buck, we examined how efficiently teams convert dollars from fans into on-field wins (regular and postseason). Fan costs were determined by researchers at the Warsaw Sports Marketing Center at the University of Oregon.

[DougWyatt]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I refuse to respect any poll ranking sports teams values that has a hockey team holding any spot.

Fixed that for me.

[molson]

I don't understand the "access to players" criteria. Is this saying that if I stop by Chris Drury's house he'll serve me some sandwiches?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by stevew

Read how they did the rankings, it's not really based on the things you might think it is.

The ratings are also screwed up by the weighting they give on the categories. Team 101 has a combined score of 688 while 102 has a combined score of 600.