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Old 02-24-2003, 09:04 AM   #1
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'Mystery' ships spotted off B.C. coast

With reporting by Ted Chernecki
canada.com


Monday, February 17, 2003

Two unidentified ships spotted off the B.C. coast are raising concerns about security.

The circumstances around the sightings are suspicious.

To begin with, the large ships were mandated by law to talk to the local marine traffic controller, in this case the Canadian Coast Guard in Uclulet, which they did not do. Instead, they refused to respond to the attempts to contact them.

Also, one of the ships was running dark when it is illegal to operate a ship at night without lights. That ship also refused to respond with its name.

The ships were spotted in separate incidents by two different American ships.

The first incident happened on Christmas Eve 2002. Around 10:30 p.m., the American logging ship The Greatland noticed a large ship heading northbound about 25 miles off the coast of northern Vancouver Island. Because the ship was beyond Uclulet's radar range, the Canadian Coast Guard was unaware of the vessel until notified by the American ship. The Greatland and Tofino traffic control tried to contact the ship, but they received no response.

The second incident was even more suspicious.

About 27 hours later, another American commercial vessel spotted another, larger, mystery ship 45 miles off the coast. That ship was also heading north. Crew on board the American ship described the mystery ship as being about 350 feet in length -- the size of a small freighter. The ship was displaying no lights. Uclulet traffic control asked the American ship to query the unidentified ship for her name. The response from the ship was, "Do you think I'm stupid?" -- apparently spoken with an oriental accent. The ship did eventually turn on her navigation lights but disappeared.

A Coast Guard marine traffic report states, "These two occurrences were suspicious in nature."

In response to the first incident, the coast guard left a message with Canadian Navy Maritime Forces Pacific, but the call was never returned.

After the second incident, the navy was contacted again, and this time returned the call within a half hour. The response was that the navy was unable to get in touch with their surveillance people and couldn't do much about the incident. Coastal Watch, a network of volunteers, was also called, but it reported that it had no resources. Coastal Watch asked the Coast Guard to send a vessel out. Eight hours later, advised that the Department of National Defence would possibly send an aircraft out the following day.

According to the report, neither vessel was ever identified. And neither was heard from again.

It's not known what the ships were doing off the coast, but some have speculated that they could be carrying illegal immigrants.

http://canada.com/national/story.asp...7-A48B6415FF78
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Old 02-24-2003, 09:21 AM   #3
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Yeah, when they drop a few bombs on us everyone will finger point and blame the next person. Something like that is just not good. Get out there are investigate those ships!

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Old 02-24-2003, 09:27 AM   #4
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Get out there are investigate those ships!


But then they might offend someone, and you know how the Canadians hate to offend people...
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Old 02-24-2003, 09:28 AM   #5
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My favorite line:

"After the second incident, the navy was contacted again, and this time returned the call within a half hour. The response was that the navy was unable to get in touch with their surveillance people and couldn't do much about the incident. "
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Old 02-24-2003, 12:54 PM   #6
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As sad as it is for me to say, this is typical. The Liberal government has always undervalued the military in this country. In Bosnia we were borrowing Spanish batteries to start our CF-18s. Our troops were sent to the deserts of Afghanistan is dark green fatigues suitable for jungle/forest warfare. Not only do we send them in harm's way, they are disturbingly underpaid.

Why Ontario continues to elect Liberals is beyond me.
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Old 02-24-2003, 01:01 PM   #7
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Why Ontario continues to elect Liberals is beyond me.

Why anyone elects Liberals is beyond me!

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Old 02-24-2003, 01:02 PM   #8
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This really isn't a big deal. Turns out Canada was testing its new
"Apathy Defense System" (ADS).
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Old 02-24-2003, 01:03 PM   #9
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"In response to the first incident, the coast guard left a message with Canadian Navy Maritime Forces Pacific, but the call was never returned."

Especially Liberals with Caller ID.
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Old 02-24-2003, 01:05 PM   #10
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I think the problem is the mounties didn't want ot get their horses wet.

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Old 02-24-2003, 01:37 PM   #11
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I guess it's like most of the world and many here in this country that you stick your head in the sand and imagine that we can all live together in harmony and love.
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