back-up qb fate

[Sgran]

Will a back-up QB lose potential while riding the bench? Does he lose fake or real green?

[stevew]

I dunno. I picked up Jay Cutler after he had sat for 6 seasons on the bench, and he was still rated 35/75. I played him for one year, and then some other team offered me the #1 pick in the draft for him(I took the trade). After 5 years with his new team, he's now maxed out at 72/72 going into his 13th season. Definitely someone who didn't lose their green on the bench. Another guy in this Career sat for almost 4 full seasons(4 starts) and is now 94/94 in his 9th season, and the best QB in the league. He didn't lose any green either.


But those are just two examples, so it's hard to say that it is conclusive of anything.

[QuikSand]

I believe that playing time correlates to a player's "current" skill, and his development toward his ultimate potential. I don't think that ultimate potential is affected by where he sits on the depth chart, whether he gets mentored, or goes to Europe.

If your young player, at any position, is losing his potential... I think that's just a hard reality setting in, and unrelated (in this game) to his playing time or lack thereof.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

I believe that playing time correlates to a player's "current" skill, and his development toward his ultimate potential. I don't think that ultimate potential is affected by where he sits on the depth chart, whether he gets mentored, or goes to Europe.

If your young player, at any position, is losing his potential... I think that's just a hard reality setting in, and unrelated (in this game) to his playing time or lack thereof.

I've seen some evidence that leads me to believe they can actually lose "real" potential at some point. I have nothing conclusive yet, but when I reran history of my SP dynasty, sticking the QB I drafted #1 into the lineup from day 1, he developed into the upper 50s or so, but as a part-timer (without being injuried), he topped out around 39/39. It may be worth going back and doing several different histories with this guy to see what happens.

[QuikSand]

Maybe the difference is between the player who has apparent potential (standard draftee) and the player who has the potential do develop beyond his apparent potential (creeper). Perhaps creepers need the playing time to "creep" but the standard players do not... for them, playing time is just an ingredient in development toward whatever their actual potential may be.

[Kodos]

Maybe Bubba is a creeper. Or just a creep.

[jzicc]

Originally Posted by stevew

Another guy in this Career sat for almost 4 full seasons(4 starts) and is now 94/94 in his 9th season

Just wondering what Qb you had that you could sit this guy on your bench for 4 years...

[stevew]

Originally Posted by jzicc

Just wondering what Qb you had that you could sit this guy on your bench for 4 years...

It wasn't my team. I traded Roethlisburger to the chiefs in 2010, that same year they burned 1(1) on a QB. Big Ben was a mentor and he was apparently good enough to hold off Wendel Greer(the #1 QB) for 4 seasons, at which point he moved to the backup role and Greer took over.

The cutler thing made less sense. The Broncos apparently let him sit all year in 2006 behind Grizzlie Jake. At which point, after a 4-12 Jake year they proceeded to draft another QB 1(4). He was solid, but unspectacular, and was a 5 year starter ahead of Cutler.

That QB(Powe) was then replaced by another QB, a guy they grabbed at 1(2, Putnam) right in front of me in the draft. I figured since they had a 6 year vet 60/60 QB that they would go elsewhere in the draft, and I didn't try to trade up into their slot. The guy they got, Putnam, is now 90/90 with an over 100 qb rating. Just some odd QB manueverings in the game.


The following year somoene offers me 1(1) for Cutler, of course I take it and draft a QB, and now going into his 6th season, that QB has won 2 titles in a row, and lost the FOB the year before that.