US vs Canada

astrosfan64 · 06-21-2007, 09:21 PM

That guy from Canada that scored was a hack. He should of been kicked out of the game for the two blatent runs he took at players. He hit Mastroni down after a whistle on a dead ball play.

He beat the crap out of one our players on a header. HE DIDN't get one card.

Poorly officiated game.

Oilers9911 · 06-21-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

That guy from Canada that scored was a hack. He should of been kicked out of the game for the two blatent runs he took at players. He hit Mastroni down after a whistle on a dead ball play.

He beat the crap out of one our players on a header. HE DIDN't get one card.

Poorly officiated game.

Wow, what game were you watching? How about the foul by...Bocanegra was it...that should have been a straight red? And the disallowed tying goal? I agree the officiating was awful but not against the US.

rowech · 06-21-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Wow, what game were you watching? How about the foul by...Bocanegra was it...that should have been a straight red? And the disallowed tying goal? I agree the officiating was awful but not against the US.

Definitely would have taken the red out for Boanegra. That was a terrible foul.

astrosfan64 · 06-21-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Wow, what game were you watching? How about the foul by...Bocanegra was it...that should have been a straight red? And the disallowed tying goal? I agree the officiating was awful but not against the US.

You can't be serious? Bocanegra got a card for his foul. That wasn't red card material.

That dude from Canada hit Mastroni in a deal ball situation. That is an automatic card. The ref did nothing.

The ball was sitting on the grass, there was a whistle. The kid with the bald head ran and hit Mastroni knocking him over then he grabbed the ball with his hands.

Just a little news flash bald headed canadian kid, this isn't hockey.

astrosfan64 · 06-21-2007, 09:31 PM

dola:

Lets not forget the TERRIBLE yellow to donavon for the dive? I mean come on that was a horrible call.

Oilers9911 · 06-21-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

dola:

Lets not forget the TERRIBLE yellow to donavon for the dive? I mean come on that was a horrible call.

LOL take your homer glasses off...are you saying Donavon isn't a diver? He was flopping all over the place...come on Landy boy this isn't figure skating.

Critch · 06-21-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Wow, what game were you watching? How about the foul by...Bocanegra was it...that should have been a straight red?

Yeah, it was Bocanegra. Should have been a straight red, two footed lunge long after the ball was gone.

Maple Leafs · 06-21-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

That guy from Canada that scored was a hack. He should of been kicked out of the game for the two blatent runs he took at players. He hit Mastroni down after a whistle on a dead ball play.

He beat the crap out of one our players on a header. HE DIDN't get one card.

Poorly officiated game.

Typical whining from the losing team. Just admit that Canada is better. EAT IT, USA!!!

What sport are we talking about?

Oilers9911 · 06-21-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Typical whining from the losing team. Just admit that Canada is better. EAT IT, USA!!!

What sport are we talking about?

Come on Maple Leafs. Where have you been. Jai Alai.

Neuqua · 06-21-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

LOL take your homer glasses off...are you saying Donavon isn't a diver? He was flopping all over the place...come on Landy boy this isn't figure skating.

Do a quick search on astrosfans "predictions" and you'll see you are getting worked up over nothing.

astrosfan64 · 06-21-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Typical whining from the losing team. Just admit that Canada is better. EAT IT, USA!!!

What sport are we talking about?

Actually the USA won.

astrosfan64 · 06-21-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Do a quick search on astrosfans "predictions" and you'll see you are getting worked up over nothing.

Yeah make sure you search the dynasty forum. Where I documented my picks and over two thousand dollars I made in a few weeks.

GoldenEagle · 06-21-2007, 11:21 PM

Oilers9911 is a one of those crazy Canukcs. Donovan is known for a ton of things, but diving is not one of them.

Bocanegra's challenge was awkward, but not a red card. Just a missed timed tackle that was not from behind.

Onstand, on the other hand, should have been sent off. If the ref calls that, is an automatic red card. It is not a yellow, it is a send off.

I am still debating the offside goal for Canada. I need to look up the law on that.

GoldenEagle · 06-21-2007, 11:24 PM

Taken from FIFA laws of the game:

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a
ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been
in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an
opponent having been in an offside position.

So good call by the official. He was offside.

Oilers9911 · 06-21-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Taken from FIFA laws of the game:

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a
ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been
in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an
opponent having been in an offside position.

So good call by the official. He was offside.

A couple problems here. First the Canadian players were NOT offside when the pass was made. Secondly the ball was headed on by a US player, therefore no offside.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-21-2007, 11:51 PM

Correct. First, they were even, so it wasn't offside. Second, even if they were in an offside positin, it was NOT a rebound, but a pursposeful pass/shot by an opponent. thus not an offside.

MJ4H · 06-22-2007, 12:02 AM

The game was horribly called all around. Donovan didn't dive. The goal at the end was very close, but probably should've counted. The angle of the replay makes it look like the defender at the bottom kept the Canadian player onside, but I am not convinced that isn't a trick. The linesman had a better angle. You can tell by the cut of the grass that the view isn't quite straight across the pitch. I agree he does look onside, but it is, again, tough to say the angle is clear. The header is troublesome, as well. It was just horribly officiated, throughout, for both sides.

bhlloy · 06-22-2007, 12:57 AM

Just saw it on sportscenter, that is one of the worst offside decisions I have ever seen. Even if he was offside on the original pass, as soon as the defender heads it back all bets are off. Unbelievable call.

Desnudo · 06-22-2007, 01:22 AM

Horrible call from the ref. Should have been a goal.

Blade6119 · 06-22-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Do a quick search on astrosfans "predictions" and you'll see you are getting worked up over nothing.

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Yeah make sure you search the dynasty forum. Where I documented my picks and over two thousand dollars I made in a few weeks.

I gotta side with neuqua on this one, i remember all the threads you used to start about predictions you were SURE of, and they were always outlandish and would turn out wrong. I used to expect about three a week at its peak

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-22-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I gotta side with neuqua on this one, i remember all the threads you used to start about predictions you were SURE of, and they were always outlandish and would turn out wrong. I used to expect about three a week at its peak

I think constantly betting against the Seahawks every week, and lambasting them as a very weak (and the most overrated) team, as they trounced the NFC competition on the way to the Superbowl in the 2005-2006 post season was a good example.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46286

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46513

"Seattle will lose against Carolina and lose big" (at home after going 8-0 at home and 13-3 for the season; final score 34-14 for Seattle)

"Alexander will get less than 50 yards against Carolina" (the league MVP who ran for 1,880 yards during the season; Seattle rushes for 190 yards, with Alexander getting 132 yards before being pulled from the game)

MikeVic · 06-22-2007, 07:42 AM

He's a regular Nosferatu.

astrosfan64 · 06-22-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

I think constantly betting against the Seahawks every week, and lambasting them as a very weak (and the most overrated) team, as they trounced the NFC competition on the way to the Superbowl in the 2005-2006 post season was a good example.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46286

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=46513

"Seattle will lose against Carolina and lose big" (at home after going 8-0 at home and 13-3 for the season; final score 34-14 for Seattle)

"Alexander will get less than 50 yards against Carolina" (the league MVP who ran for 1,880 yards during the season; Seattle rushes for 190 yards, with Alexander getting 132 yards before being pulled from the game)

they did lose in the superbowl!

Butter · 06-22-2007, 09:39 AM

Canada had an offside call go against them on a free kick in the 1st half where it looked like their guy going after the ball to head it was just shoved down in the box... the replay showed that no one was even close to offsides, even though the FSC guys said "yup, there's the offsides".

As for the end of the game, I don't know if the Bradley foul was a clear red, especially considering that he didn't really knock into the guy all that hard. But he was definitely not going after the ball. And the final minute offside was not an offside, considering that the Canadian attacker was nearly onside even when the ball came off Onyewu's head. But such is the world of international soccer. How many of us remember the handball off the line in the 2002 US v. Germany World Cup Quarterfinal... sometimes the calls don't go your way.

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 09:43 AM

The linesman told Canadian players that a Canadian player touched the ball with his head. I know Humes was in the area there was a debate as to whether he did touch it. Anyway, I think you need to give the benefit of the doubt to the referee who was at field level. We can speculate all we want but it was a very close call.

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Just saw it on sportscenter, that is one of the worst offside decisions I have ever seen. Even if he was offside on the original pass, as soon as the defender heads it back all bets are off. Unbelievable call.

A Canadian, eh? If that is one of the worse calls you have ever seen, you need to watch more soccer.

Mr. Wednesday · 06-22-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

You can't be serious? Bocanegra got a card for his foul. That wasn't red card material.

It was orange, IMO, and I lean more red than yellow for what was appropriate. Lots of force, could have caused injury.

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That dude from Canada hit Mastroni in a deal ball situation. That is an automatic card. The ref did nothing.

Uh, no, it's not an automatic red. It should have been a caution to Hume, as that's the U.S.'s restart, he has no right to the ball and particularly no right to clean out a U.S. player to collect it.

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Lets not forget the TERRIBLE yellow to donavon for the dive? I mean come on that was a horrible call.

I can't say I liked the caution there, as I thought there was enough contact that it wasn't egregious on Donovan's part, but it's not that bad of a call. The biggest issue is that he set a low standard for a simulation caution that could have come back to haunt him later (but didn't).

Mr. Wednesday · 06-22-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Onstand, on the other hand, should have been sent off. If the ref calls that, is an automatic red card. It is not a yellow, it is a send off.

No, a caution was the appropriate call. It would have needed to be an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity" for Onstad to be sent off, but Beasley overstruck the ball and would have done well to keep it in play, let alone get it on goal. The caution was sufficient.

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I am still debating the offside goal for Canada. I need to look up the law on that.

The first question is, were the Canadian attackers onside when the original pass was made? I've seen conflicting opinions on that (with more saying on than off), but even the ones saying they were on put them about even. The second question is, did Hume make contact with the ball, resetting offsides and putting both Canadian attackers offside? Most people say no, but there's one or two who think he might have gotten a touch. The third question is, did Onyewu control the ball? I know he was trying to make a headed clearance, but the control of that clearance is an important issue. If it's ruled a controlled play of the ball, then neither of the first two questions matters because the players in offsides positions have carte blanche.

My general feeling is that the call was probably incorrect, but there was so much stuff going on that the AR is going to get the call incorrect a significant fraction of the time. (I'd put the answers as even originally therefore on, no touch, not a controlled touch, without having rewatched the play yet.)

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

No, a caution was the appropriate call. It would have needed to be an "obvious goal-scoring opportunity" for Onstad to be sent off, but Beasley overstruck the ball and would have done well to keep it in play, let alone get it on goal. The caution was sufficient.

I disagree. I think it is either no call or a send-off. If Onstad plays the man there, it is a send off. If the ref rules that Beasley could not have gotten the ball, then it is a no call or at the very most obstruction.

My opinion is that Onstad was playing Beasley and should have been sent off, regardless of OGSO.

RPI-Fan · 06-22-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Just saw it on sportscenter, that is one of the worst offside decisions I have ever seen. Even if he was offside on the original pass, as soon as the defender heads it back all bets are off. Unbelievable call.

That's not true! Only if the header/deflection was CLEARLY DIRECTED backward, and the defender had control of where the ball was going, does the offside "reset".

Butter · 06-22-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I disagree. I think it is either no call or a send-off. If Onstad plays the man there, it is a send off. If the ref rules that Beasley could not have gotten the ball, then it is a no call or at the very most obstruction.

With all due respect, maybe YOU need to watch more soccer. Refs are VERY reluctant to send off keepers, even in obvious "last man" situations like this one. Yellows are the rule rather than the exception as far as what referees actually do in these situations, even though the rule dictates a red be shown if it really is a PK.

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

With all due respect, maybe YOU need to watch more soccer. Refs are VERY reluctant to send off keepers, even in obvious "last man" situations like this one. Yellows are the rule rather than the exception as far as what referees actually do in these situations, even though the rule dictates a red be shown if it really is a PK.

Look kido, I am sure FM has taught you something about the game and that is great. But as a former college goalkeeper, current USSF level 7 ref, and a USSF National D licensed coach, I know a little something about the game.

Nine out of ten times that play is a red card in any league, if the ref deemed that Beasley could have scored that.

chesapeake · 06-22-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

I think constantly betting against the Seahawks every week, and lambasting them as a very weak (and the most overrated) team, as they trounced the NFC competition on the way to the Superbowl in the 2005-2006 post season was a good example.

I find it hard to fault a guy for doubting the ability a Seattle sports franchise. 99 times out of 100, betting against Seattle in anything is easy money. I think the Seattle sports motto is "We'll Always Have 1979."

Critch · 06-22-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Look kido, I am sure FM has taught you something about the game and that is great. But as a former college goalkeeper, current USSF level 7 ref, and a USSF National D licensed coach, I know a little something about the game.

I take it there were no questions on the offside rule in your ref exams then?

astrosfan64 · 06-22-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

I find it hard to fault a guy for doubting the ability a Seattle sports franchise. 99 times out of 100, betting against Seattle in anything is easy money. I think the Seattle sports motto is "We'll Always Have 1979."

For the record, I think Seatle proved it was overrated last year.

rowech · 06-22-2007, 10:43 AM

Beasley's was a yellow. He didn't run out and just take Beasly out. He went down and clipped him. PK given. Yellow given. As it should have been.

I finally saw the offsides disallowed goal. Very tough call either way. Like it or not, rebound or not, it boils down to was the guy offsides when the ball was played. It was such a terrible pass which is part of the problem as well. Tough call. If I'm a US fan, which I am, I see it as offside. If I'm a Canadian fan, I see it as a horrible call.

Travis · 06-22-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

For the record, I think Seatle proved it was overrated last year.

You've got to be kidding me. Not going to horribly threadjack, but given all the injuries they overcame last season to win their division and then push the Bears to OT in the playoffs, I think that team proved they are more for real than they did the Superbowl season. I have no idea what any of their players/coaches/cheerleaders/fans have done to you, but my god man, get over it.

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Critch

I take it there were no questions on the offside rule in your ref exams then?

There were plenty. The offside rule is a big thing in soccer, you know?

TroyF · 06-22-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

For the record, I think Seatle proved it was overrated last year.

Yeah, cause losing your MVP for 6 games and your starting QB for 5 games, and losing on the road in OT to the Super Bowl representative from your conference shows you are a horrific failure of a team.

Draft Dodger · 06-22-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

You can't be serious? Bocanegra got a card for his foul. That wasn't red card material.

That dude from Canada hit Mastroni in a deal ball situation. That is an automatic card. The ref did nothing.

The ball was sitting on the grass, there was a whistle. The kid with the bald head ran and hit Mastroni knocking him over then he grabbed the ball with his hands.

Just a little news flash bald headed canadian kid, this isn't hockey.

"that dude from Canada"?
"the kid with the bald head"?

you really seem to know your sports stuff, so maybe you can sympathize with me. the other day, I was watching that sport where they use the round thing. no, not that sport - the other one. anyway, remember what that guy with the beard did? RIGHT! that was totally uncool, and, I swear, if I was that blonde guy - or the chubby coach LOLOL - I would have totally taken a swing at him. I tell you, the fans wherever it was were going craaaaaazy and I don't blame him one bit. the guy in charge should be fired. not that guy, the other guy.

MJ4H · 06-22-2007, 11:34 AM

that guy with the head? he's got those two arms? yeah him!

MrBug708 · 06-22-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

The linesman told Canadian players that a Canadian player touched the ball with his head. I know Humes was in the area there was a debate as to whether he did touch it. Anyway, I think you need to give the benefit of the doubt to the referee who was at field level. We can speculate all we want but it was a very close call.

So the refs get the benefit of the doubt unless they call a Memphis game right?

Blade6119 · 06-22-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

"that dude from Canada"?
"the kid with the bald head"?

you really seem to know your sports stuff, so maybe you can sympathize with me. the other day, I was watching that sport where they use the round thing. no, not that sport - the other one. anyway, remember what that guy with the beard did? RIGHT! that was totally uncool, and, I swear, if I was that blonde guy - or the chubby coach LOLOL - I would have totally taken a swing at him. I tell you, the fans wherever it was were going craaaaaazy and I don't blame him one bit. the guy in charge should be fired. not that guy, the other guy.

Your talking about astrosfan...i think its general consensus that the truth of anything is the exact opposite of what he is saying...if he tells you so and so is going to win, their going to get blown out...if he tells you such and such happened, it didnt.

Blade6119 · 06-22-2007, 01:37 PM

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Yeah, cause losing your MVP for 6 games and your starting QB for 5 games, and losing on the road in OT to the Super Bowl representative from your conference shows you are a horrific failure of a team.

The rams would have beaten the bears

Draft Dodger · 06-22-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Your talking about astrosfan...i think its general consensus that the truth of anything is the exact opposite of what he is saying...if he tells you so and so is going to win, their going to get blown out...if he tells you such and such happened, it didnt.

you mean he's ALWAYS a complete tool? man, I thought maybe he'd had some sort of brain injury that was causing him to temporarily write at the 3rd grade level.

FrogMan · 06-22-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Your talking about astrosfan...i think its general consensus that the truth of anything is the exact opposite of what he is saying...if he tells you so and so is going to win, their going to get blown out...if he tells you such and such happened, it didnt.

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you mean he's ALWAYS a complete tool? man, I thought maybe he'd had some sort of brain injury that was causing him to temporarily write at the 3rd grade level.

No, I think he means that "that dude from Canada" means the exact opposite, something like "that chick from USA", likewise "the kid with the bald head" means "that 90 year old fellow with the afro"...

FM

Blade6119 · 06-22-2007, 01:53 PM

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No, I think he means that "that dude from Canada" means the exact opposite, something like "that chick from Australia", likewise "the kid with the bald head" means "that 90 year old fellow with the afro"...

FM

Well since the dude from canada didnt head the ball, i meant that dude from the US who did...and the kid with the bald head doesnt really apply either, although gooch might be a shaved head(though he wasnt talking about gooch)

GoldenEagle · 06-22-2007, 02:15 PM

Gooch is black?

Blade6119 · 06-22-2007, 02:18 PM

Ya, he is (if your being serious)

Big Fo · 06-22-2007, 02:39 PM

A game like this shows why I wouldn't be a good coach. At 2-0 up I was impressed with our play in the second half, still attacking, trying to slam the door on Canada and not sitting back like we often do when winning. We were lucky to avoid extra-time down a man. Of course, we could have been 3-0 or 4-0 up as well.

I wonder if Canada will challenge for that 3rd World Cup qualifying spot/4th place playoff spot this time around. They have looked stronger than some of the other usual suspects.

06-21-2007, 11:21 PM	#13
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Oilers9911 is a one of those crazy Canukcs. Donovan is known for a ton of things, but diving is not one of them. Bocanegra's challenge was awkward, but not a red card. Just a missed timed tackle that was not from behind. Onstand, on the other hand, should have been sent off. If the ref calls that, is an automatic red card. It is not a yellow, it is a send off. I am still debating the offside goal for Canada. I need to look up the law on that. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-21-2007, 11:24 PM	#14
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Taken from FIFA laws of the game: Gaining an advantage by being in that position means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position. So good call by the official. He was offside. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-22-2007, 09:39 AM	#24
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Canada had an offside call go against them on a free kick in the 1st half where it looked like their guy going after the ball to head it was just shoved down in the box... the replay showed that no one was even close to offsides, even though the FSC guys said "yup, there's the offsides". As for the end of the game, I don't know if the Bradley foul was a clear red, especially considering that he didn't really knock into the guy all that hard. But he was definitely not going after the ball. And the final minute offside was not an offside, considering that the Canadian attacker was nearly onside even when the ball came off Onyewu's head. But such is the world of international soccer. How many of us remember the handball off the line in the 2002 US v. Germany World Cup Quarterfinal... sometimes the calls don't go your way. __________________ My listening habits

06-22-2007, 09:43 AM	#25
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	The linesman told Canadian players that a Canadian player touched the ball with his head. I know Humes was in the area there was a debate as to whether he did touch it. Anyway, I think you need to give the benefit of the doubt to the referee who was at field level. We can speculate all we want but it was a very close call. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-22-2007, 02:15 PM	#48
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Gooch is black? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-21-2007, 09:31 PM	#5
astrosfan64 College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2004	dola: Lets not forget the TERRIBLE yellow to donavon for the dive? I mean come on that was a horrible call.

06-21-2007, 11:51 PM	#16
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Correct. First, they were even, so it wasn't offside. Second, even if they were in an offside positin, it was NOT a rebound, but a pursposeful pass/shot by an opponent. thus not an offside.

06-22-2007, 12:02 AM	#17
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	The game was horribly called all around. Donovan didn't dive. The goal at the end was very close, but probably should've counted. The angle of the replay makes it look like the defender at the bottom kept the Canadian player onside, but I am not convinced that isn't a trick. The linesman had a better angle. You can tell by the cut of the grass that the view isn't quite straight across the pitch. I agree he does look onside, but it is, again, tough to say the angle is clear. The header is troublesome, as well. It was just horribly officiated, throughout, for both sides.

06-22-2007, 12:57 AM	#18
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Just saw it on sportscenter, that is one of the worst offside decisions I have ever seen. Even if he was offside on the original pass, as soon as the defender heads it back all bets are off. Unbelievable call.

06-22-2007, 01:22 AM	#19
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Horrible call from the ref. Should have been a goal.

06-22-2007, 07:42 AM	#22
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	He's a regular Nosferatu.

06-22-2007, 10:43 AM	#36
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Beasley's was a yellow. He didn't run out and just take Beasly out. He went down and clipped him. PK given. Yellow given. As it should have been. I finally saw the offsides disallowed goal. Very tough call either way. Like it or not, rebound or not, it boils down to was the guy offsides when the ball was played. It was such a terrible pass which is part of the problem as well. Tough call. If I'm a US fan, which I am, I see it as offside. If I'm a Canadian fan, I see it as a horrible call.

06-22-2007, 11:34 AM	#41
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	that guy with the head? he's got those two arms? yeah him!

06-22-2007, 02:18 PM	#49
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Ya, he is (if your being serious) __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

06-22-2007, 02:39 PM	#50
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	A game like this shows why I wouldn't be a good coach. At 2-0 up I was impressed with our play in the second half, still attacking, trying to slam the door on Canada and not sitting back like we often do when winning. We were lucky to avoid extra-time down a man. Of course, we could have been 3-0 or 4-0 up as well. I wonder if Canada will challenge for that 3rd World Cup qualifying spot/4th place playoff spot this time around. They have looked stronger than some of the other usual suspects.

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