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Old 06-28-2007, 09:16 AM   #1
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ST. PETERSBURG - Jennifer Turner says she was trying on clothes at Target last week when she looked in the mirror of the fitting room and saw the reflection of a man on a ladder peering down at her.

Turner, 26, was shocked.

"No one has ever seen me nude except for my doctor and my husband, " Turner said. "There was nowhere to hide."

Now Turner and her husband have hired a lawyer who has written a letter to Target demanding an explanation and threatening legal action.

She didn't get the name of the tall, thin, blondhaired man on the ladder, but she assumes he was a maintenance worker.

A Target spokesman said the company was investigating the incident.

Joshua Thomas, a spokesman for Target in Minneapolis, said contract workers are expanding the store at 4450 Park St. N in the Tyrone area. In an e-mail, he wrote that contractors may have violated Target's guidelines on where contractors can work during store hours.

"We want everyone to feel safe and secure when shopping at our stores, " Thomas said.

Richard Wolfe, the Turners' attorney, said the store should not have allowed anyone on a ladder above the dressing room area.

"I have no idea why anyone would let someone up there, " he said. "You basically have a bird's eye view of everyone going in the dressing room."

Turner said she had recently had breast implants and was trying on bras at 10 a.m. last Wednesday when she spotted the man.

She and her husband Justin, who have two young children and live near Bay Pines, grew even angrier at the company's handling of their complaint, saying they were blown off by the fitting room attendant and the manager.

The Turners reported the incident to the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office but were told no crime had occurred as there was no evidence he intended to watch her.

Bruce Bartlett, Pinellas-Pasco chief assistant state attorney, said the man could still be prosecuted for voyeurism.

"It sure as heck sounds like voyeurism to me, " Bartlett said. "It would appear to me that this guy's conduct was improper and very well may warrant filing criminal charges."

Typically a first-degree misdemeanor charge of voyeurism involves someone who trespasses or takes pictures, which would indicate intent, he said.

But an accidental voyeur could still be charged depending on the circumstances, such as how long he was watching or if he left when he first saw her, Bartlett said.

Jennifer Turner, a stay-at-home mom and personal trainer, says she won't go back to Target and feels nervous undressing in public restrooms or fitting rooms.

Her husband, a manager at Tires Plus in Seminole, says he's angry because "there's a guy out there who knows what my wife looks like naked."

The couple said a settlement would be nice, but they mostly hope that their complaint will bring change to Target, both in the way it protects its customers and handles problems - and that women will beware.

"I hate feeling insignificant, like we don't matter, " Justin Turner, 33, said. "Middle-class people make Target what they are."

The first thing that hit me was how sad it is when someone has to feel crushed, CRUSHED I SAY, when someone glimpses proof that you possess characteristics that only 52 percent of the world population shares with you. It's pretty bad when societal ideas can cause so much pain to someone who doesn't deserve it.

But come on.

"No one has ever seen me nude except for my doctor and my husband, " Turner said. "There was nowhere to hide."

Were you raised by robots or did you have stunningly poor hygeine as an infant?

When I looked at the picture the first thing I thought was, man, look at the husband. He really kinda looks like he's embarrased about his wife's over reaction but then he says this.

"there's a guy out there who knows what my wife looks like naked."

So freaking what??

I'm not saying that what happened was not wrong nor that they shouldn't be upset but this level of reaction isn't healthy and is going to turn a mildy upsetting experience into a major trauma.

Oh, and how naive is this guy to actually believe no man has ever seen her breasts.

hxxp://www.sptimes.com/2007/06/28/Southpinellas/Peeping_complaint_foc.shtml
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:22 AM   #2
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Turner said she had recently had breast implants and was trying on bras at 10 a.m. last Wednesday when she spotted the man.


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Old 06-28-2007, 09:23 AM   #3
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While I wouldn't react this way, I can see this sort of thing being important to people.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:27 AM   #4
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I understand the reaction, but at the same time I'm laughing my ass off because she got breast implants and is complaining that someone's looking at them. Obviously, she didn't intend for people to see them uncovered, but still, that's pretty freaking funny. I'd say the money was well spent and she got what she wanted.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:28 AM   #5
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What are the odds that Axxon's fingerprints match those on the ladder?
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:31 AM   #6
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I wonder what sort of explanation she expects to get from Target.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:31 AM   #7
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While I wouldn't react this way, I can see this sort of thing being important to people.

I can see it being important and something that you should reasonably strive not to let happen but when your beliefs happen to collide with reality then that's when you've got to get a bit of a grip and not let the situation become toxic in your mind because you're only hurting yourself.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:38 AM   #8
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Seems reasonable to me. People expect some level of privacy in a changing room. Feeling violated when that trust is broken seems normal.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:38 AM   #9
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I understand the reaction, but at the same time I'm laughing my ass off because she got breast implants and is complaining that someone's looking at them. Obviously, she didn't intend for people to see them uncovered, but still, that's pretty freaking funny. I'd say the money was well spent and she got what she wanted.

Yeah, was it necessary to even mention the implants?
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:43 AM   #10
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Yeah, was it necessary to even mention the implants?

oh yeah.

but really, so some dude sees your boobies. make him show you his wang and you are even.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:43 AM   #11
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What was she supposed to do - look up, wave at him and smile?
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:47 AM   #12
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I understand the reaction, but at the same time I'm laughing my ass off because she got breast implants and is complaining that someone's looking at them. Obviously, she didn't intend for people to see them uncovered, but still, that's pretty freaking funny. I'd say the money was well spent and she got what she wanted.

Yeah, i had the same reaction.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:49 AM   #13
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FOFC is slipping. No "Ladies man", "I'd hit it", or anything involving pix plz in the first ten replies?
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:52 AM   #14
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I don't get why there is not a ceiling in the changing rooms. I know that they did it that way to save money, but I think there should still be something covering the top of these rooms.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:07 AM   #15
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This Thread Is Worthless Without Pics.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:20 AM   #16
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I'm experimenting with lucid dreaming, and I have recreated this exact scenario in my mind during sleep. I'm on the ladder, Kathy Griffin is in the changing room, and rkmsuf is holding the ladder with one hand and a glass of Ovaltine with the other.

If you guys have never been on a ladder outside a changing room, I suggest that you try it.

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Old 06-28-2007, 10:22 AM   #17
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"No one has ever seen me nude except for my doctor and my husband, " Turner said. "There was nowhere to hide."

Were you raised by robots or did you have stunningly poor hygeine as an infant?
I want to know where she found a blind surgeon to do her implants.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:24 AM   #18
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oh yeah.

but really, so some dude sees your boobies. make him show you his wang and you are even.

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Old 06-28-2007, 10:50 AM   #19
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I want to know where she found a blind surgeon to do her implants.

I'm hoping her surgeon was her doctor as she stated her doctor had seen them but how he managed without any nurses or techs is an amazing feat.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:52 AM   #20
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I just noticed that she's a personal trainer. WTF does a personal trainer need a boob job for? I wonder if her professional "trainer" name is Sindy.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:52 AM   #21
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Well, the linked article has the pic but it's not really worth clicking the link for IMHO.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:58 AM   #22
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Seems reasonable to me. People expect some level of privacy in a changing room. Feeling violated when that trust is broken seems normal.

Yes, it is normal but the point is, it's something you have to get over quickly or the annoyance can really actually become damage. When you actually take the step of contacting the press about it, well, the reaction seems a bit over the top. When you say that no human except your doctor and your husband has ever seen your breasts, well, that's out there.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:59 AM   #23
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I'm sure she means as an adult. Surely her parents saw her naked when she was a kid.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:08 AM   #24
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The couple said a settlement would be nice

This is about money, nothing else. She's setting up her mental anguish claim in her lawsuit.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:10 AM   #25
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I'm experimenting with lucid dreaming, and I have recreated this exact scenario in my mind during sleep. I'm on the ladder, Kathy Griffin is in the changing room, and rkmsuf is holding the ladder with one hand and a glass of Ovaltine with the other.

If you guys have never been on a ladder outside a changing room, I suggest that you try it.

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Excellent! But I'm not imagining that scenario.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:19 AM   #26
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Anybody know where I could fill out an online application to get a job at Target?
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:23 AM   #27
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Yes, it is normal but the point is, it's something you have to get over quickly or the annoyance can really actually become damage. When you actually take the step of contacting the press about it, well, the reaction seems a bit over the top. When you say that no human except your doctor and your husband has ever seen your breasts, well, that's out there.

It isn't that inconceivable. I know multiple women that never got naked in front of anyone other than the guy they eventually married. Some people do actually wait for marriage.

It also seems reasonable to make a big deal out of this to the media when you feel like the store manager is blowing you off. You look for a remedy locally and if you don't get satisfaction, you make it more public.

This could be a bid for a giant lawsuit, or it could be a woman making a big noise because she felt wronged and nobody had the decency to acknowledge it and apologize properly.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:58 AM   #28
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It's a good thing I took the ladder with me when I left ...
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:03 PM   #29
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I'm hoping her surgeon was her doctor as she stated her doctor had seen them but how he managed without any nurses or techs is an amazing feat.

I was rather impressed by that myself.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:08 PM   #30
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This is about money, nothing else. She's setting up her mental anguish claim in her lawsuit.

I'd think they'd have to first prove that the guy existed and that indeed he was watching her. So far, the only thing that the article has to go on is her word and I don't see a big payday based solely on that. That's why I don't think it 's necessarily the money she's after.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:40 PM   #31
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Well, the linked article has the pic but it's not really worth clicking the link for IMHO.

The picture is worth it, IMO. Not for the wife, who is a very average looking woman. But the picture of the husband, who looks like he is listening to someone talk about what she endured in a concentration camp, is pretty funny.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:50 PM   #32
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I'm hoping her surgeon was her doctor as she stated her doctor had seen them but how he managed without any nurses or techs is an amazing feat.

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Old 06-28-2007, 01:52 PM   #33
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Looks like he got tats and she got tits.

Tit-for-tat? Is that the origion of the phrase?
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:58 PM   #34
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I'd think they'd have to first prove that the guy existed and that indeed he was watching her. So far, the only thing that the article has to go on is her word and I don't see a big payday based solely on that. That's why I don't think it 's necessarily the money she's after.

I don't think its the only reason she's doing, so my comment was an exaggeration. However, it looks like its in their mind. Even if they don't find the guy they may be hoping Target throws some money at them just to shut them up.

Since there's no proof that a guy was actually watching her, I don't know why they even mentioned a settlement.

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Old 06-28-2007, 03:34 PM   #35
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The picture is worth it, IMO. Not for the wife, who is a very average looking woman. But the picture of the husband, who looks like he is listening to someone talk about what she endured in a concentration camp, is pretty funny.

I agree. I mentioned a bit about his look in the original post.
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:40 PM   #36
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I just noticed that she's a personal trainer. WTF does a personal trainer need a boob job for? I wonder if her professional "trainer" name is Sindy.

At the gym I go to there have been at least two female trainers with obviously fake boobs...
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:35 PM   #37
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"No one has ever seen (my amazing new rack) except for my doctor and my husband, " Turner said.

There... I fixed it.

It is entirely possible that the guy on the ladder was working and disturbed by the sight of a topless woman with obviously fake tits. He then fell of the ladder and is now in therapy, due to landing on a tile floor with all the firmness of the breasts she had scarred up so as to avoid any man looking at them.
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:36 PM   #38
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i dont know what she was expecting, exposing her sexual nerves like that in public
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:42 PM   #39
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i dont know what she was expecting, exposing her sexual nerves like that in public

LOL
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