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Old 07-12-2007, 05:15 PM   #1
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I'm Already About 96% on Beckham Overload

I'm rapidly going from apathy to outright hatred. And that's when I purposely ignore who his wife is. Between the commercials, the news articles, and getting the latest SI in the mail today...there's pretty much no way to get away from it. At least with music I don't want to hear, I have a way to shield myself from it. Not with this. Note to soccer and advertising people - you will not make me like Beckham or soccer by shoving him down my throat.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:30 PM   #2
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Beckham is the most overrated soccer player in the last years. He i awesome shooting free kicks and crossing the ball.. but nothing else. He is more an advertisement machine than a soccer player and that is why R.Madrid brought him to the team and why the Galaxy hired him now, he is an stadium filler and a team's jerseys selling machine as you are starting to notice.

It was the same in Spain until now, from now you will suffer it as we did
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:31 PM   #3
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Beckham is the most overrated soccer player in the last years. He i awesome shooting free kicks and crossing the ball.. but nothing else. He is more an advertisement machine than a soccer player and that is why R.Madrid brought him to the team and why the Galaxy hired him now, he is an stadium filler and a team's jerseys selling machine as you are starting to notice.

It was the same in Spain until now, from now you will suffer it as we did

Come on - the hype isn't his fault. I'd say he was Madrid's best player in the second half of the season - they would not have won the title without him.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:44 PM   #4
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Come on - the hype isn't his fault. I'd say he was Madrid's best player in the second half of the season - they would not have won the title without him.

He put more heart than usual, but i don't agree with him being the best player, i have always seen him as an average player with a great foot for kicks and crosses, but never a superstar as he was hyped.

Of course this is just my opinion as R.Madrid fan, but as it's said in Spain, never arge with somebody about religion, politics or soccer, as nobody is going to convince the other part
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:51 PM   #5
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:13 PM   #6
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Beckham Beckham Beckham. Beckham? Beckham Beckham.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:25 PM   #7
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:36 PM   #8
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the hot Indian chick on ER
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:44 PM   #9
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:31 PM   #10
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Beckham's image is overhyped, but his workrate is underrated. Stories from his teammates are usually about how much he trained extra to keep working on his free kicks, not about how he showed up with a new Ferrari. He's not the type of player you'd expect to carry the team as a leader, but he's great to have around as a workhorse. It's just that his skills as a football player don't match with his 'skills' as a media personality.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:20 PM   #11
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We knew the oversaturated coverage was coming, I just didn't think I was going to get hit with it as much as I am. I saw some article about a photo shoot for W Mag, read some inane quotes about how Posh really understands him because she's great with fashion and picks out his clothes (obviously a sign that they are soulmates...), saw a couple of commercials, and then get home and he's staring at me on the cover of SI.

Too freaking much.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:29 PM   #12
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:34 PM   #13
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the hot Indian chick on ER

No, no, no.

The hot Indian chick ran off with her youth coach, remember? It caused her hot tomboy best friend to run off to become a pirate's wench.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:36 PM   #14
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I thought that was Rushdie's soon-to-be ex?
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:00 PM   #15
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Come on - the hype isn't his fault. I'd say he was Madrid's best player in the second half of the season - they would not have won the title without him.

That was pretty much my perspective as well. Of course I'm just an American, so what do I know about ...soccer.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:02 PM   #16
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No, no, no.

The hot Indian chick ran off with her youth coach, remember? It caused her hot tomboy best friend to run off to become a pirate's wench.

Racy Spice or Spicy Spice or Posh Spice. Something or other spice.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:11 PM   #17
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Becks is underrated as a soccer player IMO. All the hype around him has some convinced that he's just all style. But he works much harder than people like to claim and probably is the best at free kicks in the world. No doubt he was better in ManU when he still had some pace, but that doesn't mean his shit now.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:13 PM   #18
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I don't care how great he is, just keep him off my damn TV set! And the Fuglets, too - I don't need to see them, either.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:48 PM   #19
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It's about time you had to deal with soccer stories every where . If I had to put up with basketball crap for all these years (especially during March Madness), you can make due.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:08 PM   #20
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:10 PM   #21
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Racy Spice or Spicy Spice or Posh Spice. Something or other spice.

yeah, someday soon, she'll be Old Spice...

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Old 07-12-2007, 11:13 PM   #22
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:20 PM   #23
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No such thing.

Aishwarya talkin' bout????
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:24 PM   #24
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It's about time you had to deal with soccer stories every where . If I had to put up with basketball crap for all these years (especially during March Madness), you can make due.

I was so ready to give you a +1 for this thread, and then the wheels came off.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:32 PM   #25
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Those who are just tuning into Beckham have to realize he's older now. Same as any other sport. Becks to me is an above average player because of his work rate more than anything. At this point in his career, he does seem to almost be tired of playing and coming to the US really could be a spark to him. I've never thought he was in the top 10% of players in the world but I'd most likely welcome him to my team.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:34 PM   #26
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Aishwarya talkin' bout????

Is that a hot Indian chick? Sorry, they just don't work for me. Only ethnicity lower on the totem pole is Middle Eastern chicks. Okay, maybe midget albino Eskimo chicks, too.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:37 PM   #27
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Is that a hot Indian chick? Sorry, they just don't work for me. Only ethnicity lower on the totem pole is Middle Eastern chicks. Okay, maybe midget albino Eskimo chicks, too.

Man, I think there are some absolutely smokin' Indian girls.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:42 PM   #28
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Those who are just tuning into Beckham have to realize he's older now. Same as any other sport. Becks to me is an above average player because of his work rate more than anything. At this point in his career, he does seem to almost be tired of playing and coming to the US really could be a spark to him. I've never thought he was in the top 10% of players in the world but I'd most likely welcome him to my team.

Tired of playing? You missed his second half of the La Liga season with Real Madrid, right? Certain didn't seem tired of playing then... nor for England in the last few matches since he's been called up again.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:47 PM   #29
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Is that a hot Indian chick? Sorry, they just don't work for me. Only ethnicity lower on the totem pole is Middle Eastern chicks. Okay, maybe midget albino Eskimo chicks, too.

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Old 07-12-2007, 11:54 PM   #30
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Not bad. Looks like the avergae decent Latina chick to me around here in SoCal, though.

I did see a girl I suspect is of Indian heritage at the gym last night that was indeed smokin'. But she was riding the line between "is she Indian or a slightly off looking Latina?" So I'm not sure she applies.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:06 AM   #31
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That's a meh picture, IMO, stcronin (the former Miss World has some better ones out there)...





Btw, I find it very strange to basically disqualify an entire ethnicity from being called "hot".
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:19 AM   #32
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I'm rapidly going from apathy to outright hatred. And that's when I purposely ignore who his wife is. Between the commercials, the news articles, and getting the latest SI in the mail today...there's pretty much no way to get away from it. At least with music I don't want to hear, I have a way to shield myself from it. Not with this. Note to soccer and advertising people - you will not make me like Beckham or soccer by shoving him down my throat.

It's not really for you, sorry to say. I think almost all the marketing is for those of a far more impressionable age. Until MLS can actually pay the whole league salaries that will inspire inner city teens to play soccer instead of ______, hype alone and the Beckham roadshow will have to suffice. It's all part of the cycle of growing the league.

What's amazing to me is I am a hardcore soccer fan, and I'm barely hearing about it. I guess simply not watching normal TV or ESPN has made me oblivious to the barrage.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:35 AM   #33
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Man, I think there are some absolutely smokin' Indian girls.

I work about 6 feet away from the hottest Indian girl I've ever seen. I reckon she could convert anyone who doesn't think Indians can be hot.
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:44 AM   #34
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That's a meh picture, IMO, stcronin (the former Miss World has some better ones out there)...





Btw, I find it very strange to basically disqualify an entire ethnicity from being called "hot".

I don't consider it to be all that strange. We all have our own particular natural attractions or dislikes when it comes to women and part of that may well be to find the vast majority of an ethnicity unattractive.

I do agree that an ENTIRE ethnicity may be a little strong, but I know for my own personal tastes, there are a few ethnicities where those that I find attractive are the exception rather than the rule.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:16 AM   #35
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:30 AM   #36
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Damn that soccer. How dare they try to appeal to a broader audience!
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:51 AM   #37
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It's about time you had to deal with soccer stories every where . If I had to put up with basketball crap for all these years (especially during March Madness), you can make due.

Wrong analogy - unless you're talking WNBA, then I'm with you. Forcing Beckham on America is a lot like David Stern repeatedly professing the virtues of the WNBA.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:53 AM   #38
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It's not really for you, sorry to say. I think almost all the marketing is for those of a far more impressionable age. Until MLS can actually pay the whole league salaries that will inspire inner city teens to play soccer instead of ______, hype alone and the Beckham roadshow will have to suffice. It's all part of the cycle of growing the league.

What's amazing to me is I am a hardcore soccer fan, and I'm barely hearing about it. I guess simply not watching normal TV or ESPN has made me oblivious to the barrage.

I realize that. I'm just collateral damage.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:59 AM   #39
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:02 AM   #40
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Damn that soccer. How dare they try to appeal to a broader audience!

I'm just already finding it tiresome, that's all. Look, if the game had any broad appeal as a spectator sport in America, it would have sold itself years ago. I'm the perfect example of someone who just will never care enough to watch. And I'm even playing and enjoying soccer in a rec league as a 35-year old. But playing it and watching it are two totally different things. I already had an appreciation for the athleticism and skill involved, but that doesn't mean it's enjoyable to watch.

Bringing in an aging sex symbol and his aging former pop music wife to sell the sport seems fairly desperate, not to mention I'm not sure what they have to do with the game itself. Even if America falls head over heels for them as a couple, why would that translate to people watching soccer? I don't really get the connection. I think their crossover into other areas actually hurts soccer, since people can get their fill of them without even touching the soccer aspect.

My only hope is that once he's played a couple of games, things will go back to normal and I won't be constantly barraged with video, pic,s and stories about them. For all I care, soccer can grow by leaps and bounds from this. I don't have anything against it, I just am not interested in it. My apathy is being disturbed by all of the attention being thrown at these two people, and that's all I'm lashing out at.

Enough is enough, just leave me alone. And take ESPN's "Who's Now?" campaign with it, as well.
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:03 AM   #41
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I thought AC Slater liked soccer?

He likes dancing, too, but you would never catch me near a dance floor. Unless there's a mosh pit going.
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I always get the impression that Beckham is completely marketing, the actual guy is a fairly typical professional soccer player. He doesn't have anything to say and doesn't have any opinions about anything other than soccer. He's a terrible interviewee, he's dull and not too sharp, he just seems like a clothes horse for his wife to dress up and use to further her own career.

He's still a good professional player, his work rate is great (as long as he doesn't think he's in the US for a vacation, like Lothar Mattheus did), he's more than just a freekick taker too. I'm guessing in MLS he'll move into central midfield, he'll make a difference until his right ankle finally packs in.

He's no Pele though. And Posh Spice is no Baby Spice either.
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:35 AM   #43
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from a UK soccer board. Kind of sums it up:

"One of these days people will realise just he's a good-looking but dim footballer whose best days are behind him and she's an utterly talentless bint whose desperation to be famous is quite honestly pathetic."
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:44 AM   #44
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No fair, Lothar Matthaus unretired to go play in the MLS. I didn't at first, but now I do believe that Beckham is overthere to play soccer. As I posted already in this thread, I think he's one of the biggest cases of people being misrepresented by their media hype image.

Although I did laugh out loud when I heard LA Galaxy fans scream: "it's like Pele is going to play for us!" Please, Beckham once was (one of) the best right winger(s) in the world and he's still a free kicks and perfect crosses wonder, but he isn't a playmaker type.
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:50 AM   #45
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No fair, Lothar Matthaus unretired to go play in the MLS. I didn't at first, but now I do believe that Beckham is overthere to play soccer.

I thought Lothar Mattheus stayed retired when he came to play in the MLS

Yeah, I agree that Beckham seems too much of a professional to only be here to freeload, like Mattheus and Djorkaeff (in his second season) were.

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Old 07-13-2007, 07:55 AM   #46
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I personally think Beckham has got a lot more left in the tank than people are giving him credit for. He never was a pace type of guy. He is a great passer, and can create and score goals. Certainly not a liability in defense, he works his arse off. He is the type of player who could play at a high level well into his 30's, and can play centre midfield if his pace is a liability.

He may come accross as a bit girly, and certainly has bad taste in women, but you have to respect him for putting up with her with all the offers he must have had! I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he really hasn't asked for his attention, hate his wife if anything. His talent is genuine at least.
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Old 07-13-2007, 08:00 AM   #47
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Feel sorry for him? Are you kidding me?! Make no mistake, he may play soccer here, and play it well, but this entire thing is a marketing move. His wife's old pop group just happens to be getting back together for a tour, NBC is doing a reality show on her starting next week, and he signed that huge contract knowing exactly the type of media blitz he would be involved with. He hasn't asked for the attention? Come on! I don't care how great a talent he is, I will not feel sorry for him. In fact, I suspect that outside of his wife's ambitions, he's doing this to make a mark for himself (and with her, as a couple) to set them up for beyond his playing days, either just as a commercial attraction, or possibly in movies. I can't believe you're playing a sympathy card here.
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I'm rapidly going from apathy to outright hatred. And that's when I purposely ignore who his wife is. Between the commercials, the news articles, and getting the latest SI in the mail today...there's pretty much no way to get away from it. At least with music I don't want to hear, I have a way to shield myself from it. Not with this. Note to soccer and advertising people - you will not make me like Beckham or soccer by shoving him down my throat.

I've pretty much managed to avoid much in the way of Beckham coverage. There was a topic this morning on local sports talk radio, I saw some picture of him on CNN.com or some .com "news" site and that's pretty much it.
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Old 07-13-2007, 08:20 AM   #49
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Well, being from England I have been familiar with him for a long time. He has never done anything to thrust himself into the spotlight, bar play great football. He openly admits his wife is the boss of the relationship, and rumour is she wanted to go over the pond for career reasons. The UK public don't really like her too much.

I believe Beckham's passions are football and his family. He doesn't seem interested in the media. With kidnap threats on his kids he is probably sick of it by now, I would be. How would you feel if people wanted to steal your children for ransom? Stuff the money and fame, I'd guess he feels the same.
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Old 07-13-2007, 08:25 AM   #50
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Well, being from England I have been familiar with him for a long time. He has never done anything to thrust himself into the spotlight, bar play great football. He openly admits his wife is the boss of the relationship, and rumour is she wanted to go over the pond for career reasons. The UK public don't really like her too much.

I believe Beckham's passions are football and his family. He doesn't seem interested in the media. With kidnap threats on his kids he is probably sick of it by now, I would be. How would you feel if people wanted to steal your children for ransom? Stuff the money and fame, I'd guess he feels the same.

I agree with this. I think most of the marketing machine and publicity hounding is his wife's doing. So, in a way, I do feel sorry for him.
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