PING: Browns Fans

[korme]

Five years ago the Brownies scraped into the playoffs at 9-7. Before that, they haven't been in the playoffs since 1994. Thought I'd bring that up.

The Browns have also had 5 straight seasons with essentially a different QB at the helm - 2002-2006: Couch, Holcomb, Garcia, Dilfer, Frye. This year that trend will probably continue when Frye falters and they try to switch to Anderson or hold-out boy Quinn.

I am just glad that during the 2007 season I only have to worry about Baltimore and Pittsburgh challenging the Bengals for the AFC North, not my least favorite teams, the Browns! It's really a hatred out of tradition and not conviction at this point. Thank you, thank you.

[spleen1015]

None of this matters since none of those teams will win the AFC.

[RendeR]

Week 4 is a preview of the AFC title game, and its location: Paul Brown Stadium.

[Desnudo]

Why are the Colts and Patriots playing in Cincinatti? I'm getting flashbacks to an old thread.

[Passacaglia]

relax

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Week 4 is a preview of the AFC title game, and its location: Paul Brown Stadium.

I imagine the Bengals are a sure lock to win, just so long as they bring their A+ game, eh?

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Week 4 is a preview of the AFC title game, and its location: Paul Brown Stadium.

LOL

[CleBrownsfan]

Shorty - I wish I knew you in the 80's when the Browns ruled the division and the Bungles were in the dumps

The Browns are still a long ways away from being a competitive team... it's been rough being a fan

[MikeVic]

Those stupid Browns. I think Holcomb lit up the Steelers secondary in that playoff game 5 years ago.

[Celeval]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Shorty - I wish I knew you in the 80's when the Browns ruled the division and the Bungles were in the dumps

The Browns are still a long ways away from being a competitive team... it's been rough being a fan

+1

I'm optomistic, as always, heading into the season, but optomism kinda tops out at 8-8.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Shorty - I wish I knew you in the 80's when the Browns ruled the division and the Bungles were in the dumps

The Browns are still a long ways away from being a competitive team... it's been rough being a fan

Hrm, bengals were in teh dumps eh? Lets see, both teams had 7 seasons of at least 7 wins.

But tell me...who went to 2 Super Bowls?

As for everyone else, go ahead and laugh, point at rendeR and say "Relax", I'm a fan and I'm going to talk positive about my team.

The only thing keeping it from happening is the defense, if it improves, we're one of the top 3 teams in the conference, if it doesn't we're still top 6.

Anything can happen, especially with a weaker schedule this year than last.

[MikeVic]

The Bengals are definitely better this year than the Browns. But this is sports... you never know. Brady Quinn would start off very good, Jamal could do well as a pounding back... Braylon and Kellen Winslow (if healthy) are good.

[rkmsuf]

The Browns roster is terrible. It would be a miracle for them to win more than 6 games.

Poor Romeo. He got the cash but this will be it for him there this season.

[korme]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Shorty - I wish I knew you in the 80's when the Browns ruled the division and the Bungles were in the dumps

The Browns are still a long ways away from being a competitive team... it's been rough being a fan

If it makes you feel any better, I almost titled this thread "PING: Clebrownsfan" because you're the only Browns fan that popped into my head immediately here. Don't worry, my best friend growing up was a Browns fan, so I can't hate you. Just loathe your loyalties.

[korme]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Those stupid Browns. I think Holcomb lit up the Steelers secondary in that playoff game 5 years ago.

He threw for like 350 yards and STILL they lost to Tommy Maddox's Steelers! Talk about a game where I didn't know who to root for (probably the Steelers).

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by RendeR

As for everyone else, go ahead and laugh, point at rendeR and say "Relax", I'm a fan and I'm going to talk positive about my team.

The only thing keeping it from happening is the defense, if it improves, we're one of the top 3 teams in the conference, if it doesn't we're still top 6.

Anything can happen, especially with a weaker schedule this year than last.

How Bengals looking in preseason?

[CleBrownsfan]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

If it makes you feel any better, I almost titled this thread "PING: Clebrownsfan" because you're the only Browns fan that popped into my head immediately here. Don't worry, my best friend growing up was a Browns fan, so I can't hate you. Just loathe your loyalties.

Shorty - you ever come up for a Browns/Cinci game?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

How Bengals looking in preseason?

Not so good thanks to the inspiring 17 point, 4th quarter rallying by those fightin' Detroit Lions and back-up QB stud Dan "Big O" Orlovsky!

Between Orlovsky's Montana-like performance and some free agent kicker who apparently is the greatest onside kick-off specialist in the history of the game, the Bengals had no hope of holding that lead. None. at. all.

(Let's just ignore the fact that the Lions' first team defense couldn't stop the pass (or run really) or get any pressure on the QB, and their first team offense couldn't run the ball or convert on 3rd down.)

[Butter]

I hate to tell the Bengals fans this, because I am a big one... but we have 2 major things working against us this season.

1. The defense is pretty much the same outfit that has been perennially ranked near the bottom of the league in EVERYTHING.

2. The one guy who could really have given the offense a different dimension this year, Kenny Irons, blew his knee out Ki-Jana Carter style (don't think I don't remember that was in Detroit in a pre-season game as well).

It would be great to see the Bengals get over the hump this year and challenge for conference supremacy, but with this defense, I am not all that positive about getting past the Wild Card game.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Talk about a game where I didn't know who to root for (probably the Steelers).

That's what I like to hear.

[korme]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Shorty - you ever come up for a Browns/Cinci game?

Never been to the Pound. Almost went with my girlfriend 2 years ago (also a Browns fan), but it didn't happen.

[korme]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

That's what I like to hear.

Only because it's been instilled in me to always hate the Browns the most out of any team in any sport. Must be a state thing. Don't get me wrong though, around here, especially due to Pittsburgh's success, the majority of people I know hate the Steelers way more than any other NFL franchise!

[stevew]

does this still sting?

[korme]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I hate to tell the Bengals fans this, because I am a big one... but we have 2 major things working against us this season.

1. The defense is pretty much the same outfit that has been perennially ranked near the bottom of the league in EVERYTHING.

2. The one guy who could really have given the offense a different dimension this year, Kenny Irons, blew his knee out Ki-Jana Carter style (don't think I don't remember that was in Detroit in a pre-season game as well).

It would be great to see the Bengals get over the hump this year and challenge for conference supremacy, but with this defense, I am not all that positive about getting past the Wild Card game.

Big surprise with Irons, we can't draft a healthy RB. With our defense, however, who knows what to expect. We lost an albeit aging Brian Simmons, and a HIGHLY overrated IMHO Kevin Kaesviharn to New Orleans, and gained an opportunity for more PT with guys like Ahmad Brooks/Rashad Jeanty... Shit Ed Hartwell isn't even going to start for us!

I always hated Kaesviharn and was quietly mad that he made so many interceptions last year. He used to be a substitute math teacher before the Bengals signed him, and I always used to make silly jokes when #34 was the first one to trail the receiver in the endzone after giving up a touchdown... "he must have calculated that angle wrong"

[korme]

Originally Posted by stevew

does this still sting?

Between that and injuring our golden boy, I really understand why most Cincinnati fans have more hatred these days for the Steel City than Cleveland.

[CleBrownsfan]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Only because it's been instilled in me to always hate the Browns the most out of any team in any sport. Must be a state thing. Don't get me wrong though, around here, especially due to Pittsburgh's success, the majority of people I know hate the Steelers way more than any other NFL franchise!

See - in Cleveland we dont' really consider the Bungles as "the team to hate". That title was/is Pittsburgh and now the Ravens.

[stevew]

So, seriously, are the Browns going to win more than 5 games this year? I think Dallas has a good shot at having a top 3 pick in 2008. Meanwhile Brady Quinn will get his ass kicked, and be out of football within 6 years.

[MikeVic]

I think there's question marks for a lot of teams this year. Just in the AFC North, if the Bengals D can somehow be even top 20... they can make the playoffs. I think the Ravens will win the division. The Steelers need Big Ben to play solid, and then they can make the playoffs. The Browns need a lot of things to fall their way... but I don't see them being .500 or above right now.

[Mantle2600]

Shorty is just hating because droughns broke his linebackers neck in a game last year.

[RendeR]

Shorty's got the right of things up above, The defense got rid/lost a few players that, while always just good enough to stay bengals, weren't elite players by any stretch. Simmons and Kaesveajkdhahas were always 2 steps behind the ball.

I like some of these younger guys on defense. Ndukwe really impressed against detroit, on time with his tackles and made the tackles solo.

You take away 2 games last season that the defense just never showed up for and the Bengals D ranks in the top half of the league. Games like the Charger debacle really hurt you more than you can compensate for.

With the slightly softer schedule this season (we faced 11 playoff calibur teams in 06) and a favorable selection of the tougher games being at PBS, I think the offense takes control and teh defense plays par to get us another division crown.

Anything could happen, but this is probably our best shot in 2 decades at the conference title.

[MikeVic]

I think an injury to Rudi Johnson is over-due. He's had three high-carry years, and plays against hard-hitting defenses at least twice a year. I think he'll miss a game or two this year.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RendeR

As for everyone else, go ahead and laugh, point at rendeR and say "Relax", I'm a fan and I'm going to talk positive about my team.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...18&postcount=5

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I think an injury to Rudi Johnson is over-due. He's had three high-carry years, and plays against hard-hitting defenses at least twice a year. I think he'll miss a game or two this year.

See now THAT would create huge problems...lets not GO there

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...18&postcount=5

I saw it the first time asshat

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I think an injury to Rudi Johnson is over-due. He's had three high-carry years, and plays against hard-hitting defenses at least twice a year. I think he'll miss a game or two this year.

It hasn't been that high. For instance, he's only had 13 more carries than LT during those past three years.

[MikeVic]

I don't know why I get that feeling like Rudi's been taking more of a beating.

[MrDNA]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

See - in Cleveland we dont' really consider the Bungles as "the team to hate". That title was/is Pittsburgh and now the Ravens.

+1

I always think of the Bengals as "that other team" in the division, so it's funny to me to see a Bengals fan spewing hate.

Now the Ravens, there's a team I can get behind hating

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Not so good thanks to the inspiring 17 point, 4th quarter rallying by those fightin' Detroit Lions and back-up QB stud Dan "Big O" Orlovsky!

Between Orlovsky's Montana-like performance and some free agent kicker who apparently is the greatest onside kick-off specialist in the history of the game, the Bengals had no hope of holding that lead. None. at. all.

Orlovsky is good, he's no joke. The Lions should let him start.