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OFFICIAL Steroids & HGH Discussion Thread
You know this is necessary.
Cross-references: Jay Gibbons, come on down! http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...obe/index.html Quote:
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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I'm sorry, there are too many Bonds threads to include.
This will rival the "Another Bengal Arrested" and the Stalls thread as those in which I am happiest to see bumped. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Don't forget this one (which for some reason bugs me the most, especially when I see him doing Nike commercials):
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=53600
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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Thank you sir.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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Mosley admits he unknowingly took BALCO steroids
This sounds familiar
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...te=1&p=1543409 Quote:
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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But his explanation at least sounded less contrived than a lot of the people who "don't want to talk about the past." or "I was wrong for taking that stuff."
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Thats some great logic there. |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Town of Flower Mound
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Paul Byrd's turn...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playof...=ESPNHeadlines Quote:
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The Dirty
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Didn't that story leave out the fact that he was diagnosed by 3 docs with some hormonal issues and made no attempt to hide it. Also, he has a pituitary cancer or something that affects his hormone levels. I think it's safe to say the effects of HGH must not be so much if Byrd is taking them
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Someone oiled Honus Wagner's glove one day. See, performance enhancing has been going on forever!
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: calgary, AB
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I'd like to see guys who get nailed for taking performance enhancers get hit with a different style of penalty in addition to the suspensions. How about they are not allowed to be considered for any post season awards, no MVP's, no All-Pro's, no superbowl ring, name on the stanley cup, none of that. If they want to taint the game don't let history remember them.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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I view Byrd's use differently than others here. I remember when he was with the Angels, and this seems to be a straight up guy. I believe what he says, and I don't think he should be punished for that use, so long as he was taking properly prescribed medicated doses for a diagnosed condition.
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College Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle
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$25,000 worth of HGH and 1,000 vials? I find it hard to believe that was prescribed.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Okay which one is it?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb Quote:
So did the league know about this or not?
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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As I said in the MLB playoffs thread, one of the "doctors" he received HGH from was a dentist and the other was the online pharmacy thats under investigation.
I don't see why he'd get the benefit of the doubt over anyone else. Last edited by Atocep : 10-22-2007 at 12:50 PM. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hometown of Canada
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Drugs are bad, mmm'kay?
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3088185
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Chalk up another one for the "recovery from injury" excuse.
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College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Mountain View, California
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Three more named by the SF Chronicle
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2U24.DTL&tsp=1 Jose Guillen, Matt Williams and Ismael Valdez. |
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General Manager
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Town of Flower Mound
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Hopefully this dude is just after his 15 minutes after getting busted and nothing comes of this...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n1.d5369f.html Plano trainer says he supplied Cowboys players with steroids No names, evidence given; organization says man not affiliated with team 12:31 AM CST on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 By JASON TRAHAN / The Dallas Morning News [email protected] A man who pleaded guilty Tuesday to possession of illegal steroids has given federal authorities the names of former and current Dallas Cowboys players who he says he supplied with performance-enhancing drugs, according to sources familiar with the investigation. David Jacobs, 35, has not publicly named any of the players he says he has supplied with drugs. None of his claims has been publicly verified, and no evidence has been released related to the involvement of the athletes. Federal investigators plan to use the information supplied by the personal trainer, who also owns a nutritional supplement store in Plano, in an ongoing nationwide effort to crack down on underground steroid providers and users. The NFL, the Cowboys organization and football players contacted Tuesday say they know nothing of Mr. Jacobs. "We are one of the hottest things out there, so we are going to get mentioned if somebody robs a McDonald's," said Cowboys linebacker Bradie James, one of several players who discussed the buzz around the case with reporters Tuesday. "We don't know this individual," Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple said of Mr. Jacobs. "He has never been affiliated with this organization, and we have just been made aware of this situation yesterday." Mr. Jacobs was indicted in May by a grand jury working out of the Eastern District of Texas. Prosecutors have since revised that indictment to include six other people who they say conspired to illegally distribute steroids. It is unknown whether the others named in the indictment, all of whom declined to comment or could not be reached for comment, have any alleged connection to professional athletes. To prove a conspiracy, prosecutors need only show that they dealt with one another. On Tuesday, Mr. Jacobs pleaded guilty before U.S. Magistrate Judge Don D. Bush in Sherman to one count of conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute anabolic steroids. Under the plea deal, Mr. Jacobs would get three years' probation in exchange for his help if a federal judge signs off on the agreement. The conspiracy charge can carry a sentence of up to five years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000. "He's cooperating in an ongoing investigation," said Mr. Jacobs' attorney, Henry E. Hockeimer Jr. He declined to elaborate. Two other defendants also pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge last week, including Amber Joleblon Jarrell, Mr. Jacobs' former live-in girlfriend who is also a bodybuilder, and Matthew Blake Williams of Dallas. The remaining defendants are Brandon Mark Smith, also a bodybuilder; Andrew William Schenck; Juan Carlos Ballivian of Houston; and Jamie Mongeau. Their cases are pending. The investigation is part of Operation Raw Deal, an international effort by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, the Food and Drug Administration and other federal agencies that for two years has targeted importers of raw steroid materials from China, Mexico and other countries. Raw Deal has resulted in 124 arrests and dozens of search warrants in September, and authorities continue to sift through the evidence and expand the cases. Mr. Jacobs admitted distributing more than 40,000 units of steroids from February 2006 through April of this year, as well as several thousand units of human growth hormone, documents show. Authorities allege that Mr. Jacobs ran the operation out of his home on Honey Creek Lane in Plano. Mr. Jacobs owns the Supplement Outlet in the 3800 block of West President George W. Bush Highway in Plano, though the business is not known to be part of the investigation. On his Web site, thesupplementoutlet.com, Mr. Jacobs says he is a "certified personal trainer" who "offers guidance to many top athletes across the United States" including "Dallas Cowboys and Atlanta Falcons football players." Falcons spokesman Reggie Roberts said he had no comment on Mr. Jacobs and the steroid investigation. Court documents do not include names of Mr. Jacobs' alleged end users. Authorities would not comment on which current or former Cowboys players Mr. Jacobs had named to prosecutors. "We look forward to learning the facts underlying today's developments in this case and to assisting the federal investigation in any way possible," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "Consistent with our policies, we will deal with any NFL-related involvement promptly and aggressively." The steroids story, first reported Monday evening on KTVT-TV (Channel 11), had sports fans and Cowboys players abuzz. "For a player to start taking steroids to try to beat the system, it would be really foolish to try and do something like that," guard Leonard Davis said. Several players noted that the league performs random testing for steroids. "I know personally, the things I've done to get myself in shape ... are pure, and that comes from dedication and hard work," wide receiver Terrell Owens said. "It's a little blemish on the success we're having right now," he said. "Until someone is identified, it's just speculation. We're not going to worry about that. ... We have to worry about the Redskins." Staff writers Todd Archer, Calvin Watkins and Gary Jacobson contributed to this report, as did WFAA-TV (Channel 8) reporters Brad Watson and Craig Civale.
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