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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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A-Rod to Opt Out of Contract, become Free Agent
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...act/index.html
Please, BoSox, do NOT pursue him (especially since he's gonna want more then the $27-$30 million a year the Yanks offered.) DENVER -- Alex Rodriguez notified the Yankees on Sunday that he's opting out of his record $252 million contract, SI.com has learned. Rodriguez's decision means he will become a free agent and be able to negotiate with all clubs. Rodriguez's bombshell move will shake up the entire winter for the Yankees -- who had hoped to retain him with a big extension -- as well as other big-market clubs that will now pursue him. Rodriguez's agent Scott Boras said he sent word of the opt-out in writing Sunday and left phone and text messages for Yankees general manager Brian Cashman. The Yankees have said that once A-Rod opts out, they wil not pursue him, since they will lose the benefit of the Texas Rangers' $30-million subsidy. "Alex made the decision today,'' Boras said. "I thought we should notify the club.'' The Yankees were preparing an extension to his current contract for either five or six years, believed to be for close to $30 million annually. However, team officials said Boras has politely declined to meet with them in recent days, and they never presented the offer. Rodriguez technically had until 10 days after the World Series ended to exercise his opt-out rights, which were provided in his $252 million Texas deal. However, Boras said Rodriguez felt there was no way he could make a decision to stay in that short a period of time since several situations remain unsettled, including those of Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte.
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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Tough blow to delusional Yanks fans who thought he wouldn't dare.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TX
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i hope among hope he doesnt ger offered a big contract and gets maybe 20 mil a year
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Troy, NY
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Good for him...
Hope he goes to the Red Sox where the fans will actually appreciate him. Hope he does NOT go to the Angels or Giants or some other boring team.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Angels are a boring team?
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Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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I'd kill for him on the Tigs, even at 30 mil a year. He'll put a dent in that with merchandise and ticket sales alone, but yes, I know why people might not want him.
That said, the only legit players I see in this are Boston, Frisco, and Angels. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
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How far have we come that $20m per isn't "a big contract," sponge?
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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20 mil? I'll be surprised if he doesn't get 30 mil.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
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I thought the only possibilities were the Angels, Braves or Cubs?
Yes, the Angels are one of the boring teams simply because they are the furthest away from the Northeast of any teams. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Not Delaware - hurray!
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I'm shocked, considering the Yanks were about to offer that big extension.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2002
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They're not the Yankees or the Red Sox, now are they?
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College Prospect
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Michigan
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Pheraps he'd just had enough of the Yankees organization...
I wouldnt be surprised if Illitch signed him, if Dombrowski says the team needs him, he'll pony up. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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They didn't even listen to it. They didn't even reply to the Yanks calls.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Dodgers could easily afford it. The merchandising from it alone would probably pay for itself
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bloomington, IN
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It would be hilarious if he decided to play for a small market up-and-coming team for the minimum salary.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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I'd gladly take him in Toronto.
But that makes too much sense for Riccardi. He'll sign some other washed up former A's player or perhaps an injury prone, unproven starter as his next stroke of genius. Grr...
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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Consider it would have been on an add-on basis to the current contract.. so it would have been 8 years, 230-240 million or so.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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Just as an FYI...Cashman has said repeatedly that the Yankees will not go after A-Rod should he opt out. What he says doesn't mean shit though. If one of the Steinbrenners wants to go back after him, they will.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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There was no motivation for A-Rod to take that deal (outside of wanting to remain a Yankee, which he still could). He would have earned a couple extra million while the Yankees would have still had all that Texas money in their pocket. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
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I don't see why he'd want to go back to the Yankees. Unreasonable fans, an unstable manager situation again after the years of relative calm with Torre, new ownership situation and a lot of talent undecided whether to come back (and probably leaning against coming back)
I would sign for Boston and give a big FU to all the moron Yankee fans who booed me while I was having one of the best 3 year stretches in history. I do agree with Logan. I think the Yankees take a shot at him anyway, they would be crazy not to. If they don't it's stupid pride. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dayton, OH
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If he wants to win a title he goes to Anaheim. You have a team that has consistently been good, has a solid pitching staff, and you already have some protection in the lineup, plus some pretty good up and coming players. A-Rod going to the Angels will transform that team offensively.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
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Cardinals will get him and send Rolen to NY.
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College Starter
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Houston, or there about
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As a Rangers fan, I say horray! This frees up a ton of money we were paying the Yanks!
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Well, this was unsurprising
. Now let the bidding begin!
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Did the Rangers still owe the Yankees $30-million more, or do they owe them the remainder of that amount (prorated over the amount of years he has already played for the Yankees)?
I still think the Yankees will resign him, due to that money owed by the Rangers. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2001
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CUBS CUBS CUBS
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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According to ESPN.com
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3084640
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Once the contract was over, the Rangers were off the hook. If A-Rod opts out, the Rangers are off the hook. If A-Rod resigns with the Yankees (as opposed to signing an extension) the Rangers are still off the hook. Apparently these reports are that he has opted out meaning the Rangers are freed of their burden |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
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Yep, the original 10 year, $250 million deal will be ripped up, so Texas' obligation is over.
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Great Lakes
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Sure looks like it is a Girardi hiring, if ARod cancels the contract.
Just saying.......
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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I understand all that, but I am still not sure whether or not there was $30-million remaining that the Rangers owed or if the original terms of the trade called for $30-million to go to the Yankees over X number of years, with the Yankees having already received a portion of that.
If there is still $30-million remaining, it seems hard to believe that A-Rod will get another team to get their terms to be so far ahead of the Yankees in their bidding, that the Yankees, with the strength of the $30-million extra, would not make a much better offer. I'm guessing one of three things goes on here: 1.) Boras made this move today to press the urgency on the Yankees to sweeten the pot quickly (like within 10 days, since that is all the longer they realistically have), since the Yankees seem to be running around with their heads up their asses with Steinbrenner seemingly incapacitated. 2.) A-Rod hates playing for the Yankees so much that he will leave money on the table, just to get out of New York. Not so far fetched, since the Yankees clearly have some problems going on and Rodriguez may have enough pride and money to not want to be a part of (or even the face of) the decline of the Yankees. Still, hard to believe he has Boras as his agent and money is not his first, second, and third concern in this contract. 3.) Boras has a sweetheart deal secretly worked out with another club that promises Rodriguez partial ownership of a team. Last edited by Swaggs : 10-28-2007 at 11:41 PM. Reason: I butcher the English language |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Girardi will be interesting if he's indeed the next Yankee manager. He's not exactly a player's manager and will be a big change from Joe Torre.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Boras reads the market better than anyone. He wouldn't have had A-Rod opt out if he wasn't 100% certain he could get A-Rod something in the neighborhood of 10 years $300 mil.
Anyone hoping for A-Rod to "settle" for less than he's making now is going to be disappointed. Boras is a guy that got San Francisco to bid against themselves on Barry Zito. Love him or hate him, he's far and away the best agent in sports. Last edited by Atocep : 10-28-2007 at 11:59 PM. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Davis, CA
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If A-Rod opts out of the contract, the Rangers do not owe the Yankees $30 million. The way these deals are structured, the money goes to pay part of A-Rod's contract. No contract, no money owed. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
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Yeah, with Boras as an agent, I'm pretty sure that's not happening no matter how much fun it would be ![]() SI
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
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I think 10/300 is a bit higher than it will go. I think 8/240 (maybe 8/256 just so it beats the previous contract and if you're going to pay 30M per, what's an extra 2) is about where things end up. We should start a pool on this ![]() SI
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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I think that is clear, but A-Rod and the Yankees can "extend" his current deal (in the next 10 days) and still have the benefit of that money. If the contract officially ends, which it will 10 days from the end of the World Series if he does in fact opt out of it, then the Yankees and A-Rod will no longer have that money as a bargaining chip. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I would love to see A-Rod fire Boras as his agent.
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Why? Because Boras is good at his job? Dude, he works for A-Rod, and A-Rod wants to make money. He has every right to do so (even though he was willing to give $40 million to come to the Red Sox). What is it about people wishing to maximize the profit of their labors so much that bothers you? |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Green Bay, WI
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College Prospect
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NY
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Like Logan said, don't count the Yanks out of this yet, just because Cashman said they won't go after him. I've been telling all my Yankee fan friends all yr, this guy is gonna put up some monster numbers (as usual), then say go screw yourselves, im outta here.
My guess is he ends up with the Cubs. Also, I agree with crapshoot here, if the money is there, why not make it? |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Boras represents Boras. Is he looking out for the players he represents? Only so far as the larger the contract they sign, the larger the check he receives is. If A-Rod hires another agent to get him a deal, then Boras doesn't see a dime. Does he care if A-Rod, or any other ballplayer makes more money? See my above comment. Boras would still be happy if A-Rod, or any other player makes less than they would have made before taking his advice. He'll still get paid for the new contract, where the old wasn't putting a big chunk of change in his pocket. Just to clarify, I'm not a Rodriguez fan, nor am I a Yankee fan. Quite the opposite on both counts. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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I don't see what is wrong with this. If a player signs with Boras he isn't looking for a hometown discount somewhere, he's looking to make as much money as he possibly can. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...e_to_arod.html This is what Hank Steinbrenner had to say about the A-rod opt out. "I don't want anybody on my team that doesn't want to be a Yankee." "We're not going to back down," Steinbrenner said. "It's goodbye." Word on the street is that Cashman has a little bit more say than you may think and more than he had in the past with George running things. I think Cashman is who made the decision on the new manager hire, which is looking like it will be Girardi. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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So? A-Rod's and Boras' interests are aligned. A-Rod wants to make more money. Boras wants to make money. Boras getting A-Rod the biggest contract will make A-Rod and Boras more money. What's the problem?
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
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Because getting the most money is not always the best situation. When you're going to have made over a half a billion dollars by the end of a contract, whether it's negotiated by Scott Boras or by a monkey, there is a definite divergent interest. Wouldn't finding the best situation for a working environment be much more important than making $200M vs $250M- there's just diminishing returns on that last bit of contract and it could make all the difference in the world in terms of working conditions. I'm sure the Yankees will be one of the top bidders but, if you were ARod, would going back to New York be worth those extra millions? For Boras, of course, because he could care less since, for him, it's going to mean a bigger paycheck. SI
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TX
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that last contract was an albatros around A-rods neck, apparantly he wants a bigger one around it this time
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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Boras doesn't pick the final contract offer to accept. It's just his job to get the best offers from the teams out there. Then it's A-Rod's decision to pick among them for the one he likes the best.
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