A couple questions from a first time poster here...

Havok · 03-05-2003, 10:39 PM

Howdy

Im new to the community and i have a couple questions i'd like to ask.

Frist off, i noticed this is a FOF message board but hardly noone talks about FOF :P

I have been interested in buying FOF4 but i'd like to know what you guys think about it. i have the first 2 and i also have TCY.

I've enjoyed all of them but the micro-managment of TCY's recruiting drove me insane.

So if some people who own FOF4 could responed and give me there opinion on the game that'd be great.

Second off, I have see quite a few posts about Hatrick. I would just like to know what it is and what the URL is to the website.

Thanks!!

McSweeny · 03-05-2003, 10:40 PM

www.hattrick.org

be carefull, as you are sure to become addicted beyond repair

Radii · 03-05-2003, 10:41 PM

hattrick is a very addictive free online soccer game.

http://www.hattrick.org

I haven't purchased FOF4, but most have and you'll get a lot of answers on that too despite the lack of FOF posts

Havok · 03-05-2003, 10:52 PM

cool thanks for the link. Looks interesting

now all i need is some FOF4 reviews and im good

Radii · 03-05-2003, 10:55 PM

I find the fact that hattrick got 2 replies within 2 minutes, but FOF has yet to get a reply, hilarious

Wait until tomorrow though the board is extremely active in the 9-5 EST range when the majority are at work.

albionmoonlight · 03-05-2003, 10:56 PM

I still like FOF2 best for pure fun playability. TCY drove me crazy with micromanagement, too.

FOF4, IMO, is worth the money. There are a lot of new features there--some would say too many--but I like most of the features. I think that this board enjoys constructive criticism (that's a good thing), and that may turn some lurkers off to the games.

Remember that when we are bitching about having to find a LOLB when there is a perfectly good RILB in the free agent pool, we are probably just nit picking. Once we find our linebacker, we are ready to sit down and play FOF.

I will say, however, that my mouse on my home computer broke a couple of weeks ago, and I have not gotten around to replacing it. If that had happened when I had just bought FOF2, I would have gone out that night and gotten a mouse. Just a thought.

Craptacular · 03-05-2003, 10:56 PM

Use the search feature and look for FOF4, or just start browsing page by page looking for FOF4 topics. They're out there, but you may have to dig a little.

bbor · 03-05-2003, 10:59 PM

WHat is FOF?

Is'nt this a Hattrick board??

vex · 03-05-2003, 11:03 PM

Yeah, I tried explaining this board to someone to day and all I could come up was this: "Oh, it's based off of a game." "What Game?" "A football one, but no one actually talks about the game

"

Havok · 03-05-2003, 11:05 PM

lol vexroid!!

i was thinking that last night when i first came across this board.

But i must say.... there is one hell of a community here.

DolphinFan1 · 03-06-2003, 12:11 AM

Havok,
I have FOF4 and I play it all the time. Most of the bugs were fixed with the last patch. It's worth the money.

DolphinFan1 · 03-06-2003, 12:12 AM

Havok, I see you are from Florida. Are you a Miami fan?

vex · 03-06-2003, 12:15 AM

You can be a Dolphin fan, just not a Hurricane

DolphinFan1 · 03-06-2003, 12:16 AM

Sorry, I am both.

vex · 03-06-2003, 12:19 AM

Ack.

Hopefully the Sooners and Canes can finally get a NC match this year.

Havok · 03-06-2003, 12:34 AM

To Dolphinfan1,

Im actually a Redskins fan. I grew up 10 mins from D.C. and i just moved to florida like 8 months ago. The bucs are probally my second fav team now because im a huge Gruden fan(the guy just makes me laugh

) and i always enjoyed watching John Lynch hit people. Plus i respect great defenses more then great offense's and Tampa bay's defense is just outstanding.

I do like the Dolphins though and i was quite shocked when they completely fell apart last year. I thought for sure it was gonna be Miami and the Raiders in the AFC champianship game.

Kinda funny you bring it up because just the other day i was talking to my brother about next year's super bowl and who might be in it. And i called an all florida super bowl!!!

Tampa Bay vs Miami

I doubt it will happen but who knows.

Im more of a Gator's fan then a Canes fan. But i like them as well. I HATE the seminoles because they have been kicking my favorite collage football teams ass (The Maryland Terps) for 15 years.

vex · 03-06-2003, 12:46 AM

I hate all Florida teams, so there.

EDIT: College that is.

Havok · 03-06-2003, 12:51 AM

ahhh dam

You have to buy FOF4 from a CD now

i was hoping to be able to just download it. i dont wanna wait over a week to play it if i buy it.

no fair

DolphinFan1 · 03-06-2003, 02:18 AM

Havok,
Buying FOF4 from a CD isn't so bad. If your computer goes all you need to do is reinstall the game and reload your backup Universe files. You do back up don't you? I hope so. I had it happen to me and I was lucky to have a backup. I have found it easier than the download games in they have that licensing thing. This is all my own personal preference.
As for T.B vs. Miami, I could live with that.

Havok · 03-06-2003, 04:38 AM

yeah,

having it on CD will be nice, but since he only ships on tuesdays and its takes 3 days to get here. i wont be playing until 2 fridays from now

That kinda sucks

Bee · 03-06-2003, 06:40 AM

Download will be available at some point, but you'll still get it faster if you buy the CD right now.

If you liked the previous versions of FOF, you'll likely going to enjoy FOF4. The question becomes if there are enough improvements that it's worth the purchase for you.

The playcalling interface is probably the biggest improvement IMO. If you have any interest in calling plays, then I'd definitely recommend buying FOF4. Of course, there are other improvements as well so if you don't want to call plays you might still find it a worthy purchase.

There's also a player editor included in the game that lets you create your own teams, etc. but the bad thing about it is you can only do that at the beginning of a new game (you can edit names in game, but not ratings, drafts, etc). One of the members here has made his own editor to allow the editing of draft files from TCY though. There is also a group putting together a historic set of draft files if that interests you. I think they've started in 1970 and have almost every year's draft between then and now.

Hope you enjoy it.

B

illinifan999 · 03-06-2003, 05:21 PM

I just want to give another positive view for FOF4, I came too late to get the earlier ones, and didn't want to download, and it is nice to see how the guys form my college team develop in the pros.

Noble_Platypus · 03-06-2003, 05:43 PM

I play FOF4 all the time. I love it. There are things that need to be improved, and others that would be a nice feature if he added them, but on the whole its very much worth the money.

Havok · 03-06-2003, 06:48 PM

cool.... thanx for your opinions guys.
I just got done ordering it.

im sure ill like it considering i liked 2000 and 2001.

Mountain · 03-07-2003, 08:17 AM

So you can order thsi game? I thought the website said they were out of CDs and more weren't available. If you can, I'm defintely interested in geting this game. I have TCY and I love it.

Havok · 03-07-2003, 08:45 AM

yeah mountain... i just ordered it yesterday. i paid for it so i better be getting the game next week!!

03-05-2003, 10:59 PM	#8
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	WHat is FOF? Is'nt this a Hattrick board?? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-05-2003, 11:03 PM	#9
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Yeah, I tried explaining this board to someone to day and all I could come up was this: "Oh, it's based off of a game." "What Game?" "A football one, but no one actually talks about the game"

03-06-2003, 12:11 AM	#11
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Havok, I have FOF4 and I play it all the time. Most of the bugs were fixed with the last patch. It's worth the money. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

03-06-2003, 12:12 AM	#12
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Havok, I see you are from Florida. Are you a Miami fan? __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

03-06-2003, 12:16 AM	#14
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Sorry, I am both. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

03-05-2003, 10:40 PM	#2
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	www.hattrick.org be carefull, as you are sure to become addicted beyond repair

03-05-2003, 10:41 PM	#3
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	hattrick is a very addictive free online soccer game. http://www.hattrick.org I haven't purchased FOF4, but most have and you'll get a lot of answers on that too despite the lack of FOF posts

03-05-2003, 10:52 PM	#4
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	cool thanks for the link. Looks interesting now all i need is some FOF4 reviews and im good

03-05-2003, 10:55 PM	#5
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I find the fact that hattrick got 2 replies within 2 minutes, but FOF has yet to get a reply, hilarious Wait until tomorrow though the board is extremely active in the 9-5 EST range when the majority are at work.

03-05-2003, 10:56 PM	#6
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I still like FOF2 best for pure fun playability. TCY drove me crazy with micromanagement, too. FOF4, IMO, is worth the money. There are a lot of new features there--some would say too many--but I like most of the features. I think that this board enjoys constructive criticism (that's a good thing), and that may turn some lurkers off to the games. Remember that when we are bitching about having to find a LOLB when there is a perfectly good RILB in the free agent pool, we are probably just nit picking. Once we find our linebacker, we are ready to sit down and play FOF. I will say, however, that my mouse on my home computer broke a couple of weeks ago, and I have not gotten around to replacing it. If that had happened when I had just bought FOF2, I would have gone out that night and gotten a mouse. Just a thought.

03-05-2003, 10:56 PM	#7
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Use the search feature and look for FOF4, or just start browsing page by page looking for FOF4 topics. They're out there, but you may have to dig a little.

03-05-2003, 11:05 PM	#10
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	lol vexroid!! i was thinking that last night when i first came across this board. But i must say.... there is one hell of a community here.

03-06-2003, 12:15 AM	#13
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	You can be a Dolphin fan, just not a Hurricane

03-06-2003, 12:19 AM	#15
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Ack. Hopefully the Sooners and Canes can finally get a NC match this year.

03-06-2003, 12:34 AM	#16
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	To Dolphinfan1, Im actually a Redskins fan. I grew up 10 mins from D.C. and i just moved to florida like 8 months ago. The bucs are probally my second fav team now because im a huge Gruden fan(the guy just makes me laugh ) and i always enjoyed watching John Lynch hit people. Plus i respect great defenses more then great offense's and Tampa bay's defense is just outstanding. I do like the Dolphins though and i was quite shocked when they completely fell apart last year. I thought for sure it was gonna be Miami and the Raiders in the AFC champianship game. Kinda funny you bring it up because just the other day i was talking to my brother about next year's super bowl and who might be in it. And i called an all florida super bowl!!! Tampa Bay vs Miami I doubt it will happen but who knows. Im more of a Gator's fan then a Canes fan. But i like them as well. I HATE the seminoles because they have been kicking my favorite collage football teams ass (The Maryland Terps) for 15 years. Last edited by Havok : 03-06-2003 at 12:36 AM.

03-06-2003, 12:46 AM	#17
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I hate all Florida teams, so there. EDIT: College that is. Last edited by vex : 03-06-2003 at 12:47 AM.

03-06-2003, 12:51 AM	#18
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	ahhh dam You have to buy FOF4 from a CD now i was hoping to be able to just download it. i dont wanna wait over a week to play it if i buy it. no fair

03-06-2003, 02:18 AM	#19
DolphinFan1 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Connecticut	Havok, Buying FOF4 from a CD isn't so bad. If your computer goes all you need to do is reinstall the game and reload your backup Universe files. You do back up don't you? I hope so. I had it happen to me and I was lucky to have a backup. I have found it easier than the download games in they have that licensing thing. This is all my own personal preference. As for T.B vs. Miami, I could live with that. __________________ GM of the Milwaukee Muscle Men of the ZFL. The 1st team in ZFL history to have a perfect losing season. I am on a quest to show that the Dolphins can win the Super Bowl. Or should I say Front Office Bowl, with FOF2K7. The revival of an old favorite, FOFC Wrestling Dynasty

03-06-2003, 04:38 AM	#20
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	yeah, having it on CD will be nice, but since he only ships on tuesdays and its takes 3 days to get here. i wont be playing until 2 fridays from now That kinda sucks

03-06-2003, 06:40 AM	#21
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Download will be available at some point, but you'll still get it faster if you buy the CD right now. If you liked the previous versions of FOF, you'll likely going to enjoy FOF4. The question becomes if there are enough improvements that it's worth the purchase for you. The playcalling interface is probably the biggest improvement IMO. If you have any interest in calling plays, then I'd definitely recommend buying FOF4. Of course, there are other improvements as well so if you don't want to call plays you might still find it a worthy purchase. There's also a player editor included in the game that lets you create your own teams, etc. but the bad thing about it is you can only do that at the beginning of a new game (you can edit names in game, but not ratings, drafts, etc). One of the members here has made his own editor to allow the editing of draft files from TCY though. There is also a group putting together a historic set of draft files if that interests you. I think they've started in 1970 and have almost every year's draft between then and now. Hope you enjoy it. B

03-06-2003, 05:21 PM	#22
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I just want to give another positive view for FOF4, I came too late to get the earlier ones, and didn't want to download, and it is nice to see how the guys form my college team develop in the pros. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

03-06-2003, 05:43 PM	#23
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	I play FOF4 all the time. I love it. There are things that need to be improved, and others that would be a nice feature if he added them, but on the whole its very much worth the money. __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

03-06-2003, 06:48 PM	#24
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	cool.... thanx for your opinions guys. I just got done ordering it. im sure ill like it considering i liked 2000 and 2001. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

03-07-2003, 08:17 AM	#25
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	So you can order thsi game? I thought the website said they were out of CDs and more weren't available. If you can, I'm defintely interested in geting this game. I have TCY and I love it. __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

03-07-2003, 08:45 AM	#26
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	yeah mountain... i just ordered it yesterday. i paid for it so i better be getting the game next week!! __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

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